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Old 11-01-2012, 09:49 PM   #571
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I'm sure it will help stator life considerably .... with a non-shunt design the only time you will be working the stator to death is with high accessory load vs. of "all the freaking time"....
Which P/N did you use?

Compufire 55402, the expensive one.
I live in hope.
We are lucky enough to live in a mild climate, so we don't use heated clothing & other watt guzzling accessories.
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Old 11-01-2012, 10:09 PM   #572
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Compufire 55402, the expensive one.
I would have expected nothing less .... I live right down the street from you .... "in debt"

Like you I rarely need all 400W of output ............ seems a real shame to have the bike work to make the power then dump it to ground ...........
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Old 11-02-2012, 01:24 PM   #573
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Compufire 55402, the expensive one.
I live in hope.
We are lucky enough to live in a mild climate, so we don't use heated clothing & other watt guzzling accessories.
Can you please post some pics of how you installed it and wired it up? Thanks.
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Old 11-02-2012, 03:40 PM   #574
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Can you please post some pics of how you installed it and wired it up? Thanks.
Sorry, don't have any pics but it's pretty straightforward.
The original RR has 7 wires coming out of it.
2 red/white - positive - to battery
2 green - earth - to battery
3 yellow - to stator - doesn't matter what order.
These wires go to 2 plugs up behind that little triangular cover on RHS of the bike.
The stator plug is rectangular, the pos/neg plug is round.
I stripped the outer cover off, then cut the wires about 6" from the RR.
The Compufire RR has 5 wires.
1 positive - soldered to the 2 red/white
1 earth - soldered to the 2 green
3 stator wires - soldered to the 3 originals.
I then heat shrinked each join and re-wrapped the whole thing with the original cover and rescue tape (self amalgamating tape)
You have to make up a plate to adapt the mounting points because the Compufire mounting holes are further apart than the original.
Hope that all makes sense.
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:01 PM   #575
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saved my ass

This little thing saved me from getting stranded who knows where. The cost is like 2,50$ for the voltmeter and as much for the box and wires.



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Old 11-03-2012, 12:59 PM   #576
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The price is right ... that's for sure!

Is it waterproof, or did you waterproof it somehow?

I installed this gizmo back 4 years ago when my bike was new:
http://f800riders.org/forum/showthre...mp-GPS-adapter

Once I started hearing about stator failures I was very glad to have done so....

What seems odd to me is that "system voltage" is one of the display options for the OBC on some other models of BMW...
Wish we had that on the twins................
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:10 PM   #577
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Nice, lunaticTR! My pet peeve with dash-mounted voltmeters is that they're either too hard too see or too distracting. On my F800ST I have the same warning light that JRWooden mentions, but I disabled the green so that I don't have to keep seeing a bright green light when everything is OK. I wouldn't mind having a more precise readout, though.
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Old 11-04-2012, 10:08 AM   #578
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The price is right ... that's for sure!

Is it waterproof, or did you waterproof it somehow?

I installed this gizmo back 4 years ago when my bike was new:
http://f800riders.org/forum/showthre...mp-GPS-adapter

Once I started hearing about stator failures I was very glad to have done so....

What seems odd to me is that "system voltage" is one of the display options for the OBC on some other models of BMW...
Wish we had that on the twins................
I wish my OBC had that futue as well. 2 chronometers? Who needs it anyways? Well it is not waterproof. However I filled the back with the Fujik (sp?) brand elastic heat dissipating electrically non-conductive glue (just because I had lots of it and no silicon). The box was too thick for the purpose so I had to cut it a little. Off course the cover did not mate perfectly so I siliconed it (well the silicon was almost dry and I got some rubbery slilicon in there). I doubt the screen is waterproofed but I really did not need it. It could be waterproofed with a little silicon along the edges. It is positioned right below the wind screen. It had some rain on it for sure since I rode it in terrible rain multiple times and left it in the rain for quite some time. The worst is the morning mist. It can go in where no rain can go in. It saw maybe 3-4 weeks of it every night and still works. The rain water is non-conductive so it should not short it. Maybe corrotion can damage it in time. I will throw in another every 2-3 years .For the price its no problem. I have the box already so I do not have to spend 5$ worth of gas to get it. Damn! Chinese can make that thing and sent it to my address for less than 2.50$ while I have to spend 5$ on gas to get a box in the same city.
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Nice, lunaticTR! My pet peeve with dash-mounted voltmeters is that they're either too hard too see or too distracting. On my F800ST I have the same warning light that JRWooden mentions, but I disabled the green so that I don't have to keep seeing a bright green light when everything is OK. I wouldn't mind having a more precise readout, though.
Thanks. Its not that eye striking. Actully I never paid attaintion to it at night. It is not like the LEDs that point the light straight to your eyes. The flashing green LEDs of the SPOT on my tanktop case, on the other hand, would lit up my visor from the bottom and I thought it was the thunder and was going to rain. It was quite sometime untill I figured it out
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:19 PM   #579
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Ok I've babbled about Electrosport's stator for the F800GS / F650GS twins for a while now, and on several different threads so I'm sure I'll miss posting this update to all of them, but Electrosport does have this unit dribbling into production. The P/N is ESG831 .... the same stator is available as ESG829 for other BMWs that have the same 400W output and mechanical dimensions but the ESG829 has shorter harness leads. They are $199

The ESG831 was available on the website yesterday, but is now temporarily sold out,
inventory will apparently be replenished shortly.

Per my contact:
"Both esg829 and esg831 have the high quality wire and insulation intended for high-temp environments. Which is why the price is a bit higher then most of my other stators. "
I've asked for the numeric value of the temp. rating - if I get that value I will post it....

Answer: The wires would be good for 220 C and our part would also be running cooler then the OEM.

Ok so there you have it folks, I think I've ridden that horse about as far as it will go...

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Old 11-15-2012, 02:21 PM   #580
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The price is right ... that's for sure!

Is it waterproof, or did you waterproof it somehow?

I installed this gizmo back 4 years ago when my bike was new:
http://f800riders.org/forum/showthre...mp-GPS-adapter

Once I started hearing about stator failures I was very glad to have done so....

What seems odd to me is that "system voltage" is one of the display options for the OBC on some other models of BMW...
Wish we had that on the twins................
I like your LED monitor gizmo, but the weblink to product itself is no good, do you have a newer web link to this product? Thanks.

EDIT: found it : http://signaldynamics.com/index.php/...id=44&vmcchk=1

Thanks!

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Old 11-15-2012, 05:03 PM   #581
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I like your LED monitor gizmo, but the weblink to product itself is no good, do you have a newer web link to this product? Thanks.

EDIT: found it : http://signaldynamics.com/index.php/...id=44&vmcchk=1

Thanks!
That looks like it, I'll edit my original post and put the new link in ... thanks!
It has worked flawlessly for 4 years now ....
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Old 11-23-2012, 12:45 PM   #582
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Ok I've babbled about Electrosport's stator for the F800GS / F650GS twins for a while now, and on several different threads so I'm sure I'll miss posting this update to all of them, but Electrosport does have this unit dribbling into production. The P/N is ESG831 .... the same stator is available as ESG829 for other BMWs that have the same 400W output and mechanical dimensions but the ESG829 has shorter harness leads. They are $199

The ESG831 was available on the website yesterday, but is now temporarily sold out,
inventory will apparently be replenished shortly.

Per my contact:
"Both esg829 and esg831 have the high quality wire and insulation intended for high-temp environments. Which is why the price is a bit higher then most of my other stators. "
I've asked for the numeric value of the temp. rating - if I get that value I will post it....

Answer: The wires would be good for 220 C and our part would also be running cooler then the OEM.

Ok so there you have it folks, I think I've ridden that horse about as far as it will go...
What did we determine the max temps our stators were getting to? I think I might have a phase in my stator burnt out already on my Rick's stator was thinking of just going to the new "updated" Bimmer parts though that's gonna cost a small fortune
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Old 11-23-2012, 01:55 PM   #583
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Peak stator temp is dynamic. The highest temp I measured was 216c on a hot day after hard enough riding to purge coolant.

A 220 stator will not burn out at 240c it will just age quicker.

BMW uses 200c magnet wire which is unusual and why all the typical 180c aftermarket stators burn out quickly.

Assuming it is made well, a 220c stator would get my vote of confidence :)
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Old 11-27-2012, 05:20 AM   #584
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Ok I've babbled about Electrosport's stator for the F800GS / F650GS twins for a while now, and on several different threads so I'm sure I'll miss posting this update to all of them, but Electrosport does have this unit dribbling into production. The P/N is ESG831 .... the same stator is available as ESG829 for other BMWs that have the same 400W output and mechanical dimensions but the ESG829 has shorter harness leads. They are $199

The ESG831 was available on the website yesterday, but is now temporarily sold out,
inventory will apparently be replenished shortly.

Per my contact:
"Both esg829 and esg831 have the high quality wire and insulation intended for high-temp environments. Which is why the price is a bit higher then most of my other stators. "
I've asked for the numeric value of the temp. rating - if I get that value I will post it....

Answer: The wires would be good for 220 C and our part would also be running cooler then the OEM.

Ok so there you have it folks, I think I've ridden that horse about as far as it will go...

Thanks for following this and sharing the info.

has anyone on this list installed one of these new elecrtosport stators?

Just an obsessive detail. my f650gs is up for the winter, has over 33k miles so I intend to open it up and inspect the condition of the stator...ie how toastie is it. at this point my system is working fine, but if it looks toasted I plan to replace the stator before next riding season.
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:43 AM   #585
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VTBob:

Per my contact, supply is just trickling in now as of last week they had sold just a handful ...
as ... so far that was all they had received - it was a short run apparently done for a final QA inspection.
That batch sold out quickly, and more is either here now or will be shortly.
When the "full" batch comes in the website will be updated.
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