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Old 04-05-2012, 04:58 PM   #106
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I don't fall down







holy heck did I ever just jinx myself or what?

Judging by how many times I've seen Daniel crash his.. I'd say they're pretty tough
You'd better not go down anywhere NEAR someone else's camera!
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Old 04-05-2012, 10:28 PM   #107
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  1. Do you find that these tanks need the crash bars or no? I see a lot of people run these with just the panels. Is that good enough? Are they super tough or something?
  2. Are the safari tanks lighter than the stock tanks + their cover fairings?
  3. Are these becoming the preferred fuel extension over the Neduro tank? Was thinking of doing that with the coming 2-into-1 exhaust modification I am planning. Thought it could add some fuel without putting it over the front.
1. Not generally from what I hear and see. They are pretty stout. And the manufactured crashbars wont fit.
2. The empty tanks with no hardware weighed the same as my stock tanks with no hardware. Tells me they weigh less than the stocker/fairings combo
3.Well the Neduro tank holds 2.4 (Thats the most I got into mine) and that gives you a total of 8.2 gallons. the Safaris hold an average of 11 gallons.
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Old 04-05-2012, 11:32 PM   #108
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Does anyone know, how much there is still gas, when the fuel light goes on?
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Old 04-05-2012, 11:38 PM   #109
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Easy way to check. When the light comes on. Pull over and shut the crossover petcock off. Ride till the bike dies. Times 2 and there ya go,
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Old 04-05-2012, 11:41 PM   #110
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1. Not generally from what I hear and see. They are pretty stout. And the manufactured crashbars wont fit.
2. The empty tanks with no hardware weighed the same as my stock tanks with no hardware. Tells me they weigh less than the stocker/fairings combo
3.Well the Neduro tank holds 2.4 (Thats the most I got into mine) and that gives you a total of 8.2 gallons. the Safaris hold an average of 11 gallons.
1. Touratech makes some. Or CJ (better!)
2. Yep they weigh 0.8lbs less actually
3. On a 990 with the neduro I could only get 7.5 gallons
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Old 04-06-2012, 06:49 AM   #111
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1. Touratech makes some. Or CJ (better!)
2. Yep they weigh 0.8lbs less actually
3. On a 990 with the enduro I could only get 7.5 gallons
ONLY 7.5 gallons he says
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Old 04-06-2012, 07:58 AM   #112
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ONLY 7.5 gallons he says
is that all??
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Old 04-06-2012, 09:06 AM   #113
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ONLY 7.5 gallons he says
Versus the 11.5 he gets with the Safari's. Yeah thats All.
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Old 04-06-2012, 12:30 PM   #114
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If they will let me save some weight vs stock tanks, fairings, and crash bars... I would go with it. Otherwise I think am kind of liking the neduro tank on my left behind me. (Sure wish I could preserve the locking fuel cap too. People are assholes... yall ever worry about that? I do.)

Now if I need to outrun humungus and his gang of juice stealing hooligans, that might change and seal the deal. "Just walk a-way" not on your life, ugly
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Old 04-07-2012, 08:55 AM   #115
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here a pic with my spermwhite Safaris

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Old 04-07-2012, 01:24 PM   #116
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here a pic with my spermwhite Safaris




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Old 04-08-2012, 05:02 AM   #117
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Safari tanks suck

I've had my Safari tanks for a year now and I sort of still like them but I'm getting real sick of the expansion problem.

The bottom mount has moved atleast 20mm maybe more, the headlight bolt holes have moved about 10mm. The rear of the tank has no more room to move, I have already ground the front edge of the side covers to make more room. The bottom brace has been extensively modified, it is not only the mount hole that needs to be moved but the clearance around the fuel hose/fuel petcock has been ground out several times.
I went to refit my tanks today and again had to do more work to the bottom mount. DO THESE THINGS EVER STOP GROWING?
I am a professional with all the gear and know how to modify things as needed but I often wonder what the average punter does about this. I shudder to think what butchery takes place at a workshop when some of those so called mechanics are refitting the tanks after a valve check or a water pump job.
One of the reasons I go to alot of effort to have this right is so that, if I ever have to take the tanks off while on tour I've already got a problem, I dont need anymore!

I think the tanks should have been made smaller and pre-expanded before sale.

Has anyone got any stories to tell?
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Old 04-08-2012, 06:02 AM   #118
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I've had my Safari tanks for a year now and I sort of still like them but I'm getting real sick of the expansion problem.

The bottom mount has moved atleast 20mm maybe more, the headlight bolt holes have moved about 10mm. The rear of the tank has no more room to move, I have already ground the front edge of the side covers to make more room. The bottom brace has been extensively modified, it is not only the mount hole that needs to be moved but the clearance around the fuel hose/fuel petcock has been ground out several times.
I went to refit my tanks today and again had to do more work to the bottom mount. DO THESE THINGS EVER STOP GROWING?
I am a professional with all the gear and know how to modify things as needed but I often wonder what the average punter does about this. I shudder to think what butchery takes place at a workshop when some of those so called mechanics are refitting the tanks after a valve check or a water pump job.
One of the reasons I go to alot of effort to have this right is so that, if I ever have to take the tanks off while on tour I've already got a problem, I dont need anymore!

I think the tanks should have been made smaller and pre-expanded before sale.

Has anyone got any stories to tell?
I am in the process of researching and planning for a future expedition. This is one of the potential problems I've tried to fix in my mind ... I've read a few stories like this with excellent advice on how to remount them ... But like yourself I would like them to not expand in the first place ...

One of my ideas was to wrap the tank while it was still new ....

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... Question ... These tanks Expand and you Can-Not paint them .............. Right?

A Thought ... Wrap a tank with large Carbon Fiber sheets ... On the back side only wrap inboard from the outside edge 3 inches, leaving the majority of the back plastic exposed. (Which will allow any of the gasses that cause bubbling to escape) The gasses would eventually separate the bond on the front but even if all the original bond was lost ... Everything would still fit tightly as it is a zero tolerance exoskeleton ... On the back side connect 4 of the outer edge’s with 2 long strips of CF 2 to 3 inches wide, crossing them effectively making a visible X on the back ... CF patch’s on the back near exhaust and other hot spots.

Now take it to a paint shop and have it painted / sanded / painted / sanded and finished with a eye popping glass finish.

Paintable ... & ... No more bolt alignment problems

(The tank skid protector could be included in the process) ... & ... (The clear tanks could have CF Open Sight Gauge's any where you wanted to put them)

Does anybody think this might work ... or would this be a bank breaker ...
I'm still checking in on this thread hoping someone that already owns one these tanks might be able to give me an educated guess leading to ... No Way, Don't Try It, It Will Be A Most Expensive Mistake! ... or ... Hey That Just Might Work! ....

Signed ... Seeking The Collective Wisdom ...
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Old 04-08-2012, 07:30 AM   #119
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I've had my Safari tanks for a year now and I sort of still like them but I'm getting real sick of the expansion problem.

The bottom mount has moved atleast 20mm maybe more, the headlight bolt holes have moved about 10mm. The rear of the tank has no more room to move, I have already ground the front edge of the side covers to make more room. The bottom brace has been extensively modified, it is not only the mount hole that needs to be moved but the clearance around the fuel hose/fuel petcock has been ground out several times.
I went to refit my tanks today and again had to do more work to the bottom mount. DO THESE THINGS EVER STOP GROWING?
I am a professional with all the gear and know how to modify things as needed but I often wonder what the average punter does about this. I shudder to think what butchery takes place at a workshop when some of those so called mechanics are refitting the tanks after a valve check or a water pump job.
One of the reasons I go to alot of effort to have this right is so that, if I ever have to take the tanks off while on tour I've already got a problem, I dont need anymore!

I think the tanks should have been made smaller and pre-expanded before sale.

Has anyone got any stories to tell?
Have you read this post? Sounds like Kamanya has a simple, effective method for remounting, no matter the expansion...

FYI, Getting the Safari Aquiline tanks on with little effort
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Old 04-08-2012, 08:22 AM   #120
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David: they'll distort enough that kamanya's technique simply won't reach. My tanks had 3 gallons in each of them yesterday and the right tank had the bottom hole off by 30+mm and the windshield holes couldn't even see the holes they were destined for.

@ any given moment my tanks have various bolts missing because I gave up trying to get them to reach.
As long as the tank doesn't fall off.. I don't sweat it.



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p.s. I have better results without even doing the top bolt up.. I start with the bottom and do the top bolt last as it is the easiest to line up. when things are super out-of-whack (like right now) I'll do the top bolt up about 4 threads and then bottle jack the bottom of the tank to bow it enough that I can reach the hole. Unlike Kamanya 's tanks.. my tanks have zero overlap with my rear fairings and always line up at the back without tension. I think these tanks have a lot of variance between sets?

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