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Old 01-31-2005, 10:44 PM   #1
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640 Adv. for First Bike?

I feel like a Harley guy in disquise. I want a sexy 640 Adventure cause I can't have the 950 and the Weestrom is not the Image I am looking for. Pre-flame explanation/ DRZ 400 is too much of a compromise, Weestrom is more dirt limited than the 640 is road limited for my current and future abilities and goals - IMHO(read-not ridden). So those that can compare these two bikes(DL650 - LC4Adv.) and or describe why either may or may not suit a beginner plz advise. One specific question to address is the seat height of the 640 and are there ways to temporary lower until I am less likely to drop or fall? Thx to all willing to respond. buffallodan

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Old 01-31-2005, 11:32 PM   #2
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Dont think either should be to bad for a first bike so long as your not inseem challenged. the 640 is a bit tall and requires more maintenance so I'd say the DL650 is a better choice but it really depends what kind of riding you plan on doing. If it will be mostly street and a few dirt roads go with the wee strom but if you need somethin to buzz down the road to get to your favorite off road trail the 640 would be better. A KLR might be a perfect compromise between the two.
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Old 02-01-2005, 01:34 AM   #3
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DRZ400 would be fine for a first bike. Plenty fast enough to get you in trouble.
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Old 02-01-2005, 06:14 AM   #4
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your best first bike is the cheapest used bike you can buy that meets 80% of your wishlist. i guess you want something a few years old with less than 5000 miles if you are not mechanically minded.
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Old 02-01-2005, 06:48 AM   #5
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Threre are some used 640's out there 2000 on. Are there significant upgrades with model years and any specific problems with any post 2000 models? Speckypete the reason I am shying away from the DRZ400 is the need to do some highway miles and don't know if it would be up to it. 2Hr trips to get to my destination on the interstate. I am looking used but of course the DL650 is so new not many available.
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Old 02-01-2005, 06:50 AM   #6
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Skip the 640 ADV. I have ridden harleys, crotch rockets, and touring bikes. I have ridden my beemer since '95. I got a 640 ADV 5 months ago and it was very intimidating. Lots of power, lots of weight up high. Get something more manageable (DR 650) learn on it, keep it clean , then sell it if you get tired of it. Skip the 640 for now. Superannuated hauls ass on his DR, ask him about it.
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Old 02-01-2005, 07:03 AM   #7
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640adv is a great first road bike. go for it.
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Old 02-01-2005, 07:07 AM   #8
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2Hr trips to get to my destination on the interstate.
I wouldn't recommend a 640 Adventure as your first bike for 2 hour trips on the interstate. Or for learning to ride in the dirt for that matter.
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Old 02-01-2005, 07:34 AM   #9
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I gotta pile on. A first bike should be common, straightforward, easy-to-ride, easy-to-wrench, easy to buy, and easy to sell. A 640 Adv is none of these. Just finding a good one is an adventure onto itself. A good example - unless it's been added, the thing don't even come with a sidestand and I can't imagine a first-timer dealing with putting their Adv on the centerstand.

Uless you are super tall, the seat height will be huge problem as well.

And two-hours on the interstate isn't any fun either. In stock form, a 640 Adv doesn't hold any real advantage over a DRZ in this application.

Somethiing like a KLR or V-Strom is what you want. Sexy is way overrated on a first bike. Go for the plain jane - there's plenty of time for sexy later.

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Old 02-01-2005, 07:36 AM   #10
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When it comes to learn'n, smaller is usually better.

That be'n said, the 640 is really a smaller bike as far as street bikes go; not enough power to get ya in real trouble to fast and it handles fall’n over well. As for dirt, it is a bit big to learn on but that is really no problem, just go easy.


My belief is that the 640 is not the best bike if yur only gonna have one bike. Not because it won’t do it all, of course it will, but rather how time consuming and or expensive it is as far as maintenance goes.

If ya really want one, just get it, for more than anything else motorcycle selection is about passion, follow yur heart.
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Old 02-01-2005, 07:36 AM   #11
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btw... my first road legal bike was a 640 adventure.
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Old 02-01-2005, 07:58 AM   #12
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So those that can compare these two bikes(DL650 - LC4Adv.) and or describe why either may or may not suit a beginner plz advise. One specific question to address is the seat height of the 640 and are there ways to temporary lower until I am less likely to drop or fall? Thx to all willing to respond. buffallodan
I actually own both these bike at the present time. The Vstrom is a great little street bike and makes a good beginner street bike. But it's ability off road is limited unless you are sticking to well groomed gravel roads. Reason - lack of 21" tire, no crash protection, low ground clearance, and weak suspension (for off road). The 640 on the other hand does fine on the street as long as you are not travelling far and don't mind the vibration. But for a beginner it is a lot of bike off road due to it's weight and size. Better to learn on a smaller bike. You can lower the bike with links and/or some suspension modifications.
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Old 02-01-2005, 08:59 AM   #13
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Ignore Loaded... he is a shit starting, devil boy . Get a 640 after you get your dirt legs on something cheaper to destroy.
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Old 02-01-2005, 09:56 AM   #14
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As regards a first bike, there's not much difference in noob-friendliness between a 950 and 640; neither are terrific first motos. They're both very sharp tools, with quite fine edges.

You're really not sacrificing much by getting a cheap, easy-to-ride bike first.
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Old 02-01-2005, 10:24 AM   #15
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Ignore Loaded... he is a shit starting, devil boy . Get a 640 after you get your dirt legs on something cheaper to destroy.
yer fuckin right.... but my first road legal bike was still a 640 adventure
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