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Old 07-17-2011, 11:52 AM   #16
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When you have a worn-out back every pound is an enemy, LOL....off road means you WILL have to pick it up. Seriously, if you ride tight single-track, light is golden. P=MV and what you got better be hung low.

I won't argue the point as reguarding tight single track, neither of these bikes is optimal for this. Since the op pretty clearly outlined highway, light dirt trails, fire roads and the like a good single track bike is not in his scope of interest. I think the two bikes he is considering are definitely the two best bikes for his needs. They just have two different approaches to accomplishing that end, one being a well sorted low horsepower bike and the other being a slightly higher-strung version. Both have excellent transmissions for dirt and asphalt, neither of them have top of the line suspensions but both have very capable setups especially considering their intended use.


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Old 07-17-2011, 01:39 PM   #17
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Just got home from a 150 mile ride today, getting close to 2000 miles on her, seems to be running stronger. Maybe starting to break in. I took her out on the highway and opened it up, 70 mph was about 1/2-3/4 throttle on the level, had a little left to maybe sneak pass someone. The wind blast at 70 was my biggest complaint, maybe a windshield will take the edge off and make it feel faster. Was getting low on fuel and topped it back off,1.3 gal for 90 mile, not bad.

Anyone near Altoona Pa have a 630 I could take for a spin????Beer cash WRR test ride etc...
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Old 07-17-2011, 01:55 PM   #18
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The WR250R's dry weight is 276.
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Dry weight on the 630 is 330 lbs. vs. 284 on the wrr...
Dry weight is mostly a mythical number that the motorcycle factories come up with for each bike. 99.9% of the time it has no basis in reality.

Motorcycle Consumer News weighs all the bikes they test, in a ready to ride state with a full tank of gas. In other words, they report the actual weight of the bike, not a made up "dry" weight. MCN reports the "wet" weight of the stock WRR at 301 lbs.

Rick Ramsey weighed his TE610 with a full tank of gas at 317 lbs (296 lbs with an empty gas tank). The TE630 weighs more than the 610 so 330 lbs is probably pretty accurate.

Which brings us to this.

Actual weight of the stock motorcycle with a full tank of gas:
WRR - 301 lbs
TE610 - 317 lbs
TE630 - 330 lbs (estimated)
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Old 07-17-2011, 02:12 PM   #19
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Which brings us to this.

Actual weight of the stock motorcycle with a full tank of gas:
WRR - 301 lbs
TE610 - 317 lbs
TE630 - 330 lbs (estimated)

Sounds about right, Fast1 just put a single exhaust on his 630 and it's 17 pounds lighter.

What this brings us to is a bike that weighs 310-320ish with about 40 HP to the ground or a bike that weighs 300 and has 24 HP. Most people won't be able to tell the difference of an extra 10 pounds, but every single one of us can tell the difference of an extra 16 HP.
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Old 07-17-2011, 02:54 PM   #20
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wrr hp

[QUOTE= BigDog loves the motorcycle he's on the at the time...just like he should. My 610 was 308 pounds ready to ride and doesn't have a 14 HP point in the entire power curve.[/QUOTE]

Uphill in the thread somebody stated that WR hp= 14, I think that's the torque, and the hp is ~25. No matter, while I ride and love my wr, the rpm at which the torque becomes useful in tight stuff is disappointing, but trades off in the fast stuff.
In a perfect world we would all have numerous specialized tools.
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Old 07-17-2011, 03:02 PM   #21
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Uphill in the thread somebody stated that WR hp= 14, I think that's the torque, and the hp is ~25. No matter, while I ride and love my wr, the rpm at which the torque becomes useful in tight stuff is disappointing, but trades off in the fast stuff.
In a perfect world we would all have numerous specialized tools.

No, he was talking about at that point in the power curve the big bore stroker kit for a WRR goes from 14HP to 24HP at that specific rpm:


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He said that at the rpm that the stock wrr makes 14 hp the stroker will make 24.
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Old 07-17-2011, 03:15 PM   #22
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wr vs 690 enduro

I have traded and owned two wr 250 r's. I currently have a 690 ktm. I love the 690 and have no intentions to get rid of it. But wouldnt mind having another wrr also again as a third bike. I believe the 250 and 690 are two different types of bikes. I guess they both have a different kind of fun factor. Im sure it is the same with the TE 610/630.
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Old 07-17-2011, 03:22 PM   #23
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Thanks for the correction, that's why I should have gone riding instead of trying to read today...
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Old 07-17-2011, 03:23 PM   #24
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Yeah the 630 will have a lot more hp but that isn't all that matters, ride/handling/suspension/fit/finish etc......my DR650 ran the highway better but sucked everywhere else.
A WRR with 40 hp would be perfect, Is the TE630 it.
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Old 07-17-2011, 03:34 PM   #25
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Anyone near Altoona Pa have a 630 I could take for a spin????Beer cash WRR test ride etc...
I'm not super close, but if you don't find a better option, I'm out near West Chester (west of Philly). I'll be traveling all over the place for the next few weeks, but after that we could probably arrange something!
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Old 07-17-2011, 04:13 PM   #26
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Sounds about right, Fast1 just put a single exhaust on his 630 and it's 17 pounds lighter.

What this brings us to is a bike that weighs 310-320ish with about 40 HP to the ground or a bike that weighs 300 and has 24 HP. Most people won't be able to tell the difference of an extra 10 pounds, but every single one of us can tell the difference of an extra 16 HP.


So knock off 17 lbs for single exhaust and 8 lbs for the 1.2 gal extra fuel and the TE should be around 305 with 2 gal fuel??? Sound right?
WRR is 301 with 2 gal fuel.

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Old 07-17-2011, 04:16 PM   #27
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I'm not super close, but if you don't find a better option, I'm out near West Chester (west of Philly). I'll be traveling all over the place for the next few weeks, but after that we could probably arrange something!

Thanks for the offer, trying to decide this week, West Chester is farther than where I'll be buying the bike.
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Old 07-17-2011, 06:14 PM   #28
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I have never owned a TE, but have owned a 600-class bike, the XR650R. I currently own a WR250X and have the dirt wheels too.

If I were making your decision, I would have to answer only one question..."Do I want this bike to have raw, knobby-ripping power, especially down low in the rev range?" If the answer is "yes", then the TE is your answer. If the answer is "no" or "I don't care", then the WRR is a great choice.

The WRR is not a particularly powerful bike, but completely capable of doing what you've described - it's similar to how I ride mine, and it's a blast! For those times when I want raw acceleration or MX action, my YZ250 gets the call.
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Old 07-24-2011, 09:02 PM   #29
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Husqvarna lists their TE630 at 317.5 lbs and after fitting a Leo Vince Ti single exhaust system you have a 300 lb bike.

http://www.husqvarna-motorcycles.com...specifications

IMO the suspension on the 630 is superior to the WR250, especially the rear shock. You have both low and high speed compression adjustments along with rebound besides pre-load.

Other advantages over the WR250 is the ability to cruise on the freeway at 75 mph with PLENTY of power left over
for passing and blasts up to 100 mph.

The 630 has a revised air box that is sealed and mated with a snorkle that pulls air about seat level for high water crossings.

The rear sub frame of the 630 has been revised for additional strength and the head light is night and day better over the older 610. The top end has a double over head cam and now sports a hydraulic clutch.

MPG on mine with power up has been mid 40's when incorporating 75 mph runs on the highway. With a stock tank holding
a hair over 3 gl the low fuel light comes on around 125 miles with 1/2 gl remaining.

At $5999, which is similar to a new WR250R, it was an easy decision for me.

IMO it also does single track and "make your own track" very well and is only limited with the stock karoo tires.





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Old 07-24-2011, 11:34 PM   #30
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Would I be happier with a TE630?
If you really are considering swapping your WR250R for a TE630 ... my suggestion is to check out a Husaberg FE 570S as well. The bike could easily be setup for dual sporting (versus enduro type trails) and is significantly lighter than a TE630. Weights in stock at 252 lbs. And with the stock gearing you will be able to keep up with your friends easily on dirt roads, etc. I really enjoyed 3 years of riding my WR250R, but it's for sale now because the Husaberg is simply in another class of power and handling.
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