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Old 07-23-2011, 04:10 AM   #1
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Question Africa Trip Planning - help and advice needed

Dear Advriders,

It is that time of the year to start planning my next long adventure. I have bought the lonely planet guide of africa, I have drafted a tentative route based on conversation with friends that have lived in Africa and I have started reading blogs of fellow Advs.

The biggest concern right now is the road in northen Kenya from Nanyuki to Moyale which seem to be the most dangerous one. I still have several questions regarding the which bike to take (i have a fairly new F800GS, a 650GS dakar with 55,000 KM and a small 200cc Yamaha AG) or if to buy one in South Africa.

The original plan was to start from switzerland, to italy and take the boat from genova to tunisia and ride south. However, that is not an option anymore with all the revolutions taking place. So the new plan is to fly to S.A and then ride north to Suddan. I still need to figure out if I can sell/ship the bike from there or if I should continue to Egypt to Alexandria and hope to find a boat back to EU.

I'm currently trying to nail down the basic route, the areas that are dangerous and support points. Then build around it the points of interest and a more detail planner.

The date of departure has to be finalized based on weather and work. The plan is to ride for approximately 4 months - is that enough time?

Anyway, I look forward to any advice that you might have and if you have done parts of this route please let me know so I can follow-up with you. I'm also interested in GPS tracks and any support along the way.

I have created a blog www.salcar.net that I will be updating with additional details on the planning.

thank you very much and i look forward to hearing back from you!

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Old 07-24-2011, 10:36 AM   #2
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Hi check on our site www.pikipiki.co.za we just did a 6 month trip up to Ethiopia, we had to leave the bikes there to get back to SA. We will go back to Ethiopia in Sept/Oct to go onto Euro.

The road you show is all tar and in good condition. The only bad piece is between Marsabit and Moyale but not that bad if you can ride a bike. We did the Turkana bit. Our travel parters Linda and Harold did the Marsabit road.

4 months is okay, there is a fuel shortage in Ethiopia but other than that no issues. Your route from Tanzania is best to go Malawi then Mozambique then SA down Garden route to CP The one you show, to Zambia, Zim and then SA is a bit boring.

What we want to know is from Egypt to Eruro what route to take? Cant go Lybia and Syria is a problem and the ferry from Italy to Egypt have stopped so how to get off Africa?

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Old 07-25-2011, 09:50 AM   #3
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What we want to know is from Egypt to Eruro what route to take? Cant go Lybia and Syria is a problem and the ferry from Italy to Egypt have stopped so how to get off Africa?

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Michnus thank you very much for the tips!

Asianrider just did EU, Turkey, Yemen to Ethiopia. Here is his thread.

Jammin is in Ethiopia and is coming down from EU. He has not posted yet how he rode to Africa. Here is his thread.

I'll check out your site and the route that you suggested.

You have some cool pics!

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Old 07-26-2011, 09:44 AM   #4
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Jammin is in Ethiopia and is coming down from EU. He has not posted yet how he rode to Africa. Here is his thread.
I thought Jammin was one of the last on the ferry Venice-Egypt before it closed down. Anyway this ferry will start working again in october, maybe sooner.

My friends are now in Israel, waiting for Grimaldi to take them to Italy:
http://www.roamingafrica.be/
so that may be a solution also.

@Salcar, when are you starting your trip, as I'm sort of planning the same route? I would start in august 2012 and take around 6 months, I just need to find a way to fly my 660 tenere to South Africa.
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Old 07-26-2011, 10:03 AM   #5
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Thanks for the info Salcar. I will check out for Jammin.

I met up with Laurant in Nairobi we still talk often via email, hellova guy!

Titbird, thanks will follow them.
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Old 08-02-2011, 01:13 PM   #6
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@Salcar, when are you starting your trip, as I'm sort of planning the same route? I would start in august 2012 and take around 6 months, I just need to find a way to fly my 660 tenere to South Africa.
I'm planning to depart around March/April/May. I heard that is a good time/weather in S.A. I still need to get the green light at work on the best date.

Let me know if you come to switzerland by any chance or pm me your contacts. it would be good to hear about your plans.
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Old 08-20-2011, 01:12 AM   #7
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Shipping Companies

Hi all,

Planning continous slowly as work has been crazy. I've send a couple emails out to the HU community and I'm starting to get replies with regards to shipping companies (see below). I'll start creating a list start contacting them.

Today I'll start hitting the book stores in search of maps.

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Shipping companies I know in Switzerland are:

globoship.ch
dhl.ch
swissworldcargo.com

if you need more infos, I might have some brochures.

May be it is cheaper shipping from Germany due to the crazy exchange rates.
We made very good experiences with:

Intime-ham.com (contact Oliver Kleinknecht)
Gs-sportreisen.de
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Old 10-02-2011, 10:16 AM   #8
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Maps

Got the Michelin Afrika maps 745 & 746 they look pretty comprehensive. Anyone has a link to GPS tracks?

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Old 10-02-2011, 11:09 AM   #9
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tracks4africa launched a new maps for Africa. If you want I cam have a look for you at the difference between them. The Michelin mapw are not that hot when using for Africa.
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tracks4africa launched a new maps for Africa. If you want I cam have a look for you at the difference between them. The Michelin mapw are not that hot when using for Africa.
Thank you for sharing the name. I'll check at the site and would greatly appreciate if you could look at the difference. I quickly saw that they also have GPS tracks.
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Old 10-03-2011, 09:11 PM   #11
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Salcar,
am glad you are planning this ride as well. I too am thinking of a south-north route roughly along the same lines as you, but with a bit more running around SA, botswana, lesotho etc. I would love to do the lake turkana bit as well.

Instead of shipping my bike, I am planning on buying a local bike there. I figure that most of east africa is somewhat paved and i'd want an ultra simple bike i can get repaired locally. Am thinking the small, 150cc indian made Bajaj bikes might be pretty good. Ofcourse, it is not fast, but with some careful planning, i can avoid carnet headaches and also the shipping costs to and from africa. Let me know your thoughts...?

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Actually,
after a few hours of research, i am now thinking of a yamaha AGbike. Like one of these two.
http://www.jhbyamaha.co.za/view_category.aspx?ID=104




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Instead of shipping my bike, I am planning on buying a local bike there. I figure that most of east africa is somewhat paved and i'd want an ultra simple bike i can get repaired locally. Am thinking the small, 150cc indian made Bajaj bikes might be pretty good. Ofcourse, it is not fast, but with some careful planning, i can avoid carnet headaches and also the shipping costs to and from africa. Let me know your thoughts...?

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Actually,
after a few hours of research, i am now thinking of a yamaha AGbike. Like one of these two.
http://www.jhbyamaha.co.za/view_category.aspx?ID=104
did you figure out if you can buy a bike as a foreigner? i have several AG's in Nicaragua and they are great bike. you probably just need to change the front sprocket to make it run smoother on road.
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Old 02-25-2012, 09:21 AM   #14
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You will find some interesting reading here:

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?board=25.0
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?board=12.0

Post an introduction here:

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?board=16.0

There are a number of people who have done a Cape to Cairo.

Most posts are in English, but you will find Afrikaans posts mixed in too.
(Very similar to Flemish and Dutch)
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Old 11-27-2012, 03:54 AM   #15
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My girlfriend decided to quit the her job and join the adventure. Instead of starting directly on the motorcycle we have spent the last 6 months traveling mostly around Asia.

Today, we finally bought our tickets to South Africa arriving on January 11th.

However, I'm dealing with a few issues
1. since the carnet de passage is only valid for 1 year I haven't done and not sure if I can do it from here (Bali)
2. I don't have an international driver license and from reading online is needed in most African countries

more soon....
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