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Old 01-19-2013, 11:23 AM   #676
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So you're calling Roy a RACEist?


Hmmm I guess you could put it that way..
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Old 01-19-2013, 04:31 PM   #677
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I hope this valve check works out like I want it to.
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Old 01-19-2013, 04:38 PM   #678
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I hope this valve check works out like I want it to.
What kind of top case is that? I've been thinking about getting one but hear the Jesse's are overpriced junk.

Damn, you were a busy fella today.
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Old 01-19-2013, 05:57 PM   #679
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I hope this valve check works out like I want it to.
Just remember where you put all the parts.
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Old 01-20-2013, 05:22 AM   #680
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What kind of top case is that? I've been thinking about getting one but hear the Jesse's are overpriced junk.

Damn, you were a busy fella today.
That top case is an overpriced KTM piece of junk. I read or heard that a side case manufacturer private labels that box for KTM, but I can't remember which one.

Yes, I even cleaned up a bit before I got started.


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Old 01-20-2013, 05:36 AM   #681
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It looks a lot like the Trax boxes that twisted sells.
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:53 AM   #682
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I hope this valve check works out like I want it to.
Looks like fun but I would have done it while it rained for 9 straight days
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:56 AM   #683
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Oh no! Now I got my feelings hurt.

I better just put my Tiger up for sale & get me a couple of rice rockets. Maybe one day I'll be cool enough to own a Jap bike. I don't think I'll ever be able to get the attitude though. Seems like you never got beat-up as a child. Maybe you got ass raped instead. I can imagine that would make you quite bitter. I'm sorry about your butthole Roy.
You have a strange way of expressing yourself. There is help for people with that condition.
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:59 AM   #684
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Roy,
If you have any pull with HT, I would love to have their racks for my NC700X. So far only 2 people have requested them - they need 20.
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No pull Tom but all my communication with them has been positive. All they need is a bike so maybe someone near them could provide a donor to get the ball bouncing.
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:02 AM   #685
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No pull Tom but all my communication with them has been positive. All they need is a bike so maybe someone near them could provide a donor to get the ball bouncing.
All my dealings with them have been positive - good company. I've only bought a few things from them several years ago for my DRZ, but they respond to my emails within a day and treat me like a valued customer. Even told me to start a letter writing campaign to request products for my bike.
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:42 AM   #686
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All my dealings with them have been positive - good company. I've only bought a few things from them several years ago for my DRZ, but they respond to my emails within a day and treat me like a valued customer. Even told me to start a letter writing campaign to request products for my bike.
http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=856248
I have had the same experience with them. I put a lot in service after the sale. Those companies that excell in that always get my money over and over. They worked with me on the DR racks that I drove them crazy about a 1/4" out on one side. We finally met in the middle on it. My weird ways didn't get to them and I am still a loyal customer. No style points with their stuff but it's damn near indestructible when used the way ADV stuff ends up being used at times.
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Old 01-20-2013, 09:18 AM   #687
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A little history on Jesse and HT. Jesse was a pioneer of sorts in the luggage market. He catered to the world traveler wanna be's that BMW helped create with the GS market back in the 70-80s. He sold(sells) thousands of sets to the GS folks. The choices of luggage were slim back then(BMW or Jesse and maybe a couple others). Then the adventure segment of motorcycling expanded to the KLR and others. Those riders had fewer choices (GIVI,ammo cans,etc) for a budget bike. Jesse didn't seem to want to expand his market to other bikes(he was selling all he could build to the GS guys!). HT and some others saw the potential market for the budget buyers. They could build and sell to the guys that Jesse either wouldn't or couldn't cater to. Now, there are several choices of manufactures that sell to all budgets. BMW factory bags are probably the most expensive with Jesse following with all the others in the market. The durability of the products(and customer service) doesn't necessarily follow their price tag.

It boils down to fit, finish, durability, cost, aesthetics and customer support. GIVI hits several of those as does some others. Hitting all the marks is hard to accomplish in such a broad market. Aesthetics can be the hardest to accomplish with all the bikes out there(can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear!) One has to make the choice by weighing these things to suit their needs/wants. I've had several different brands of luggage(and bikes). HT has improved their operations while containing cost and expanding to many different bikes. It makes them a great choice for those wanting the durability of a metal case that looks like a tool box. If bang for the buck outweighs everything else, the HT bags(boxes) are a great value.

It's been almost ten years since my last purchase of Jesse Luggage. Back then, he seemed a bit strung out. Fit to some of the Jap bikes was not very good. His customer support was poor. Getting in touch with them was not easy. Although, they would eventually respond helpfully. At some point since then, they have shifted sales and support to somebody else. I don't know if they have improved their operations or not.

Some(Honduh, Suzuki, KTM, Moto Guzzi) of the OEM bags are designed around second party products and sold as OEM. Most are not so durable but, look the "business" to some extent. The mounts can be(are, in some instances) the sad part for what might otherwise be great luggage.

Lots to consider
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Looks like fun but I would have done it while it rained for 9 straight days
Doing that would had to have been coupled with not working for nine days, a luxury I don't have, right now.
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It's been almost ten years since my last purchase of Jesse Luggage. Back then, he seemed a bit strung out. Fit to some of the Jap bikes was not very good. His customer support was poor. Getting in touch with them was not easy. Although, they would eventually respond helpfully. At some point since then, they have shifted sales and support to somebody else. I don't know if they have improved their operations or not.

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Excellent post Greg. Funny how a post can be informative without being condescending.

I'll address this one part. I have heard that Jesse is hard to get in touch with. There were horror stories from 10 years ago about months long delays and broken promises. When I bought my Strom bags they were using an outside vendor (Xplormoto IIRC). Those guys seemed to be on the up and up, but at some point (after I bought mine) they dropped the ball.

Jesse sales are once again handled in house. I called and talked to them when I bought the bags for the Tenere. All calls were either answered or a message was left and returned in a reasonable length of time. They explained that there would be a delay as they had underestimated the demand for the Tenere and they were in the process of building more racks. They gave me a timeline and everything arrived as we had discussed.

My customer service needs were met.

Also, the racks for the Tenere are much better than the 'Strom racks. No trips to Lowes required.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:26 AM   #690
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A little history on Jesse and HT. Jesse was a pioneer of sorts in the luggage market. He catered to the world traveler wanna be's that BMW helped create with the GS market back in the 70-80s. He sold(sells) thousands of sets to the GS folks. The choices of luggage were slim back then(BMW or Jesse and maybe a couple others). Then the adventure segment of motorcycling expanded to the KLR and others. Those riders had fewer choices (GIVI,ammo cans,etc) for a budget bike. Jesse didn't seem to want to expand his market to other bikes(he was selling all he could build to the GS guys!). HT and some others saw the potential market for the budget buyers. They could build and sell to the guys that Jesse either wouldn't or couldn't cater to. Now, there are several choices of manufactures that sell to all budgets. BMW factory bags are probably the most expensive with Jesse following with all the others in the market. The durability of the products(and customer service) doesn't necessarily follow their price tag.

It boils down to fit, finish, durability, cost, aesthetics and customer support. GIVI hits several of those as does some others. Hitting all the marks is hard to accomplish in such a broad market. Aesthetics can be the hardest to accomplish with all the bikes out there(can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear!) One has to make the choice by weighing these things to suit their needs/wants. I've had several different brands of luggage(and bikes). HT has improved their operations while containing cost and expanding to many different bikes. It makes them a great choice for those wanting the durability of a metal case that looks like a tool box. If bang for the buck outweighs everything else, the HT bags(boxes) are a great value.

It's been almost ten years since my last purchase of Jesse Luggage. Back then, he seemed a bit strung out. Fit to some of the Jap bikes was not very good. His customer support was poor. Getting in touch with them was not easy. Although, they would eventually respond helpfully. At some point since then, they have shifted sales and support to somebody else. I don't know if they have improved their operations or not.

Some(Honduh, Suzuki, KTM, Moto Guzzi) of the OEM bags are designed around second party products and sold as OEM. Most are not so durable but, look the "business" to some extent. The mounts can be(are, in some instances) the sad part for what might otherwise be great luggage.

Lots to consider
Bored a bit are we

I wouldn't have wasted my time on all that
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