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Old 01-20-2013, 06:36 AM   #676
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It looks a lot like the Trax boxes that twisted sells.
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Old 01-20-2013, 07:53 AM   #677
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I hope this valve check works out like I want it to.
Looks like fun but I would have done it while it rained for 9 straight days
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Old 01-20-2013, 07:56 AM   #678
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Oh no! Now I got my feelings hurt.

I better just put my Tiger up for sale & get me a couple of rice rockets. Maybe one day I'll be cool enough to own a Jap bike. I don't think I'll ever be able to get the attitude though. Seems like you never got beat-up as a child. Maybe you got ass raped instead. I can imagine that would make you quite bitter. I'm sorry about your butthole Roy.
You have a strange way of expressing yourself. There is help for people with that condition.
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Old 01-20-2013, 07:59 AM   #679
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If you have any pull with HT, I would love to have their racks for my NC700X. So far only 2 people have requested them - they need 20.
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No pull Tom but all my communication with them has been positive. All they need is a bike so maybe someone near them could provide a donor to get the ball bouncing.
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Old 01-20-2013, 09:02 AM   #680
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No pull Tom but all my communication with them has been positive. All they need is a bike so maybe someone near them could provide a donor to get the ball bouncing.
All my dealings with them have been positive - good company. I've only bought a few things from them several years ago for my DRZ, but they respond to my emails within a day and treat me like a valued customer. Even told me to start a letter writing campaign to request products for my bike.
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Old 01-20-2013, 09:42 AM   #681
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All my dealings with them have been positive - good company. I've only bought a few things from them several years ago for my DRZ, but they respond to my emails within a day and treat me like a valued customer. Even told me to start a letter writing campaign to request products for my bike.
http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=856248
I have had the same experience with them. I put a lot in service after the sale. Those companies that excell in that always get my money over and over. They worked with me on the DR racks that I drove them crazy about a 1/4" out on one side. We finally met in the middle on it. My weird ways didn't get to them and I am still a loyal customer. No style points with their stuff but it's damn near indestructible when used the way ADV stuff ends up being used at times.
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:18 AM   #682
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A little history on Jesse and HT. Jesse was a pioneer of sorts in the luggage market. He catered to the world traveler wanna be's that BMW helped create with the GS market back in the 70-80s. He sold(sells) thousands of sets to the GS folks. The choices of luggage were slim back then(BMW or Jesse and maybe a couple others). Then the adventure segment of motorcycling expanded to the KLR and others. Those riders had fewer choices (GIVI,ammo cans,etc) for a budget bike. Jesse didn't seem to want to expand his market to other bikes(he was selling all he could build to the GS guys!). HT and some others saw the potential market for the budget buyers. They could build and sell to the guys that Jesse either wouldn't or couldn't cater to. Now, there are several choices of manufactures that sell to all budgets. BMW factory bags are probably the most expensive with Jesse following with all the others in the market. The durability of the products(and customer service) doesn't necessarily follow their price tag.

It boils down to fit, finish, durability, cost, aesthetics and customer support. GIVI hits several of those as does some others. Hitting all the marks is hard to accomplish in such a broad market. Aesthetics can be the hardest to accomplish with all the bikes out there(can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear!) One has to make the choice by weighing these things to suit their needs/wants. I've had several different brands of luggage(and bikes). HT has improved their operations while containing cost and expanding to many different bikes. It makes them a great choice for those wanting the durability of a metal case that looks like a tool box. If bang for the buck outweighs everything else, the HT bags(boxes) are a great value.

It's been almost ten years since my last purchase of Jesse Luggage. Back then, he seemed a bit strung out. Fit to some of the Jap bikes was not very good. His customer support was poor. Getting in touch with them was not easy. Although, they would eventually respond helpfully. At some point since then, they have shifted sales and support to somebody else. I don't know if they have improved their operations or not.

Some(Honduh, Suzuki, KTM, Moto Guzzi) of the OEM bags are designed around second party products and sold as OEM. Most are not so durable but, look the "business" to some extent. The mounts can be(are, in some instances) the sad part for what might otherwise be great luggage.

Lots to consider
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:49 PM   #683
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Looks like fun but I would have done it while it rained for 9 straight days
Doing that would had to have been coupled with not working for nine days, a luxury I don't have, right now.
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Old 01-20-2013, 07:59 PM   #684
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It's been almost ten years since my last purchase of Jesse Luggage. Back then, he seemed a bit strung out. Fit to some of the Jap bikes was not very good. His customer support was poor. Getting in touch with them was not easy. Although, they would eventually respond helpfully. At some point since then, they have shifted sales and support to somebody else. I don't know if they have improved their operations or not.

Lots to consider
Excellent post Greg. Funny how a post can be informative without being condescending.

I'll address this one part. I have heard that Jesse is hard to get in touch with. There were horror stories from 10 years ago about months long delays and broken promises. When I bought my Strom bags they were using an outside vendor (Xplormoto IIRC). Those guys seemed to be on the up and up, but at some point (after I bought mine) they dropped the ball.

Jesse sales are once again handled in house. I called and talked to them when I bought the bags for the Tenere. All calls were either answered or a message was left and returned in a reasonable length of time. They explained that there would be a delay as they had underestimated the demand for the Tenere and they were in the process of building more racks. They gave me a timeline and everything arrived as we had discussed.

My customer service needs were met.

Also, the racks for the Tenere are much better than the 'Strom racks. No trips to Lowes required.
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:26 AM   #685
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A little history on Jesse and HT. Jesse was a pioneer of sorts in the luggage market. He catered to the world traveler wanna be's that BMW helped create with the GS market back in the 70-80s. He sold(sells) thousands of sets to the GS folks. The choices of luggage were slim back then(BMW or Jesse and maybe a couple others). Then the adventure segment of motorcycling expanded to the KLR and others. Those riders had fewer choices (GIVI,ammo cans,etc) for a budget bike. Jesse didn't seem to want to expand his market to other bikes(he was selling all he could build to the GS guys!). HT and some others saw the potential market for the budget buyers. They could build and sell to the guys that Jesse either wouldn't or couldn't cater to. Now, there are several choices of manufactures that sell to all budgets. BMW factory bags are probably the most expensive with Jesse following with all the others in the market. The durability of the products(and customer service) doesn't necessarily follow their price tag.

It boils down to fit, finish, durability, cost, aesthetics and customer support. GIVI hits several of those as does some others. Hitting all the marks is hard to accomplish in such a broad market. Aesthetics can be the hardest to accomplish with all the bikes out there(can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear!) One has to make the choice by weighing these things to suit their needs/wants. I've had several different brands of luggage(and bikes). HT has improved their operations while containing cost and expanding to many different bikes. It makes them a great choice for those wanting the durability of a metal case that looks like a tool box. If bang for the buck outweighs everything else, the HT bags(boxes) are a great value.

It's been almost ten years since my last purchase of Jesse Luggage. Back then, he seemed a bit strung out. Fit to some of the Jap bikes was not very good. His customer support was poor. Getting in touch with them was not easy. Although, they would eventually respond helpfully. At some point since then, they have shifted sales and support to somebody else. I don't know if they have improved their operations or not.

Some(Honduh, Suzuki, KTM, Moto Guzzi) of the OEM bags are designed around second party products and sold as OEM. Most are not so durable but, look the "business" to some extent. The mounts can be(are, in some instances) the sad part for what might otherwise be great luggage.

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Bored a bit are we

I wouldn't have wasted my time on all that
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Bored a bit are we

I wouldn't have wasted my time on all that
And yet you post up post after post belittling and ridiculing the rest of us for our lack of riding skill, mechanical prowess and general common sense.

Frankly, I prefer Greg's "post less with good quality" approach.

Oh, and: . Cause it's just a forum after all.

Edit: Forgot to say thanks to Greg for that info: "Thanks!" Greg!
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And yet you post up post after post belittling and ridiculing the rest of us for our lack of riding skill, mechanical prowess and general common sense.

Frankly, I prefer Greg's "post less with good quality" approach.

Oh, and: . Cause it's just a forum after all.

Edit: Forgot to say thanks to Greg for that info: "Thanks!" Greg!
Whatever flips your lid supah and as I've said before and I'll say it again for good measure and the hearing/reading/internet sensitive types. I really don't give a shit what the hell any of you do or don't do. All this is here is a comedy hour for the few that think they are funny anyway, no one here wants solid helpful info.
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And BTW

I thought everyone knew where the origin of a metal pannier came from, I mean damn I'm in romper room for ADV

Next discussion will most likely be the invention of the knobby tire...
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I thought everyone knew where the origin of a metal pannier came from, I mean damn I'm in romper room for ADV

Next discussion will most likely be the invention of the knobby tire...
I couldn't find any info directly related to the knobby tire, but here is a start for you Roy, taken from this website: http://inventors.about.com/library/i...rs/bltires.htm

History of Tires
Charles Goodyear invented vulcanized rubber in 1844 that was later used for the first tires.


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  • Charles Goodyear invented vulcanized rubber in 1844 that was later used for tires.
  • In 1888, John Dunlop invented the air-filled or pneumatic tires, however, his were for bicycles.
  • In 1895, André Michelin was the first person to use pneumatic tires on an automobile, however, not successfully.
  • In 1911, Philip Strauss invented the first successful tire, which was a combination tire and air filled inner tube. Strauss' company the Hardman Tire & Rubber Company marketed the tires.
  • In 1903, P.W. Litchfield of the Goodyear Tire Company patented the first tubeless tire, however, it was never commercially exploited until the 1954 Packard.
  • In 1904, mountable rims were introduced that allowed drivers to fix their own flats. In 1908, Frank Seiberling invented grooved tires with improved road traction.
  • In 1910, B.F. Goodrich Company invented longer life tires by adding carbon to the rubber.
  • Goodrich also invented the first synthetic rubber tires in 1937 made of a patented substance called Chemigum.
Pneumatic Tyre (Tire)
John Boyd Dunlop (1840-1921) was a Scottish veterinarian and the recognized inventor of the first practical pneumatic or inflatable tyre/tire. His patent was for a bicycle tire, granted in 1888. However, Robert William Thomson (1822 - 1873) invented the actual first vulcanised rubber pneumatic tire. Thomson patented his pneumatic tire in 1845, his invention worked well but was to costly to catch on. Dunlop's tire patented in 1888 did, and so he received the most recognition. William Thomson also patented a fountain pen (1849) and a steam traction engine (1867).



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