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Old 01-04-2012, 08:30 PM   #631
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Old 01-04-2012, 08:32 PM   #632
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Russian Bear, any time .............. ( have a 2000 word essay in my head but won't get started ).
To the short of it , I am from South Carolina and we can be blunt : Your fingers are typing way above your skill level. The riders on this thread are some of the most skilled riders in the world. I looked at the video from your NH dual sport ride and wasn't impressed, not a bit.
This guy (BILL) rides better and faster on sand than you can on pavement.
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Old 01-04-2012, 08:53 PM   #633
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Not sure where to begin...but first, thank you to everyone for all the support, well wishes, concern and the TDR quote. I have been brought to tears several times over the past 24 hours with the reality of failure. I have strived many times to chase different dreams only to always fall short of the goal. I don't regret the chase as it has brought some wonderful life experiences. But failure has a way of beating you down and brings question to why we do the thing we do. During one of my down times on stage I was thinking how foolish this was to think I could pull this off with so little time and money. Then the thought of how much time and money has been spent, I was going to do whatever I could to make in. Once again I came up short. I'm still trying to deal with it. I like to think I have delt with failure well in the past, a little disappointment at first then an even stronger resolve to push on. Currently I feel the failure heavily. I'm sure this will pass. Reading the quote makes feel a little better.
Fuck that noise Bill, you can shut those little voices down right now. Your only failure would be to quit or not try in the first place, and by all reports there was none of that!
We were excited to see you set off at the start. We were hopeful and worried as hell while you were pushing your ride through the dunes. THANK YOU for taking us along on your ride. Head high man. Be as proud of yourself as we are of you.
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Old 01-04-2012, 08:58 PM   #634
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Bill, i am one of your students!
but i have to be honest - DNF on the first 'real' rally Dakar day is embarrassing!

i am Russian and i say things as they are... no american pepermint,,,,

bottom line, ,,, gotta test your machine before u go!
Spoken like a real tosser, you have no idea what it's like to be a privateer. So kindly STFU and when you gain some privateer racing experience PM me and I'll let you know when you can post again, boy.
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Old 01-04-2012, 11:09 PM   #635
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Not sure where to begin...but first, thank you to everyone for all the support, well wishes, concern and the TDR quote. I have been brought to tears several times over the past 24 hours with the reality of failure. I have strived many times to chase different dreams only to always fall short of the goal. I don't regret the chase as it has brought some wonderful life experiences. But failure has a way of beating you down and brings question to why we do the thing we do. During one of my down times on stage I was thinking how foolish this was to think I could pull this off with so little time and money. Then the thought of how much time and money has been spent, I was going to do whatever I could to make in. Once again I came up short. I'm still trying to deal with it. I like to think I have delt with failure well in the past, a little disappointment at first then an even stronger resolve to push on. Currently I feel the failure heavily. I'm sure this will pass. Reading the quote makes feel a little better.
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Results? Why, man, I have gotten lots of results! If I find 10,000 ways something won't work, I haven't failed. I am not discouraged, because every wrong attempt discarded is often a step forward....
Head up Bill, you did America and yourself proud. I can empathize with what you are feeling, I get the same way myself often. You'll feel better once you can get back on a bike, shit I've teared up reading Yours and Ned's thread and you have lived more in the few stages you completed than most do in a lifetime.

TOP FUCKING NOTCH SIR!
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Old 01-05-2012, 02:11 AM   #636
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"A challenge for those that go, a dream for those that stay behind".

Well done Bill
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Old 01-05-2012, 02:35 AM   #637
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"A challenge for those that go, a dream for those that stay behind".
Well done Bill
Congratulations on your attempt. Failing is not trying. Most of us dream of attempting it and fail every year. You tried, and tried hard. You're not hurt, that's the most important.



Thanks for sharing your experience with us!
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Old 01-05-2012, 03:39 AM   #638
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Lots of good stuff here, I'm reminded of this: "You live more in 5 minutes flat-out on a bike like this than most people do in a lifetime"

Much respect an admiration for you Bill. I will continue to wear this shirt with pride.


No, it didn't help my riding a bit but your class sure did. In for the 2013 version.

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Old 01-05-2012, 04:25 AM   #639
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Pre-race testing and trials are good ...more testing and trials even better. Crash testing? Not so easy.


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Old 01-05-2012, 04:35 AM   #640
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Wow russianbonehead you really know how to turn a whole lot of people against you really quickly! From experience I can tell you that just getting to the starting line is a whole lot more success than you can possibly conceive. Like a previous poster said: until you post your own sorry ass at a real rally keep your mouth shut when it comes to dissing someone else's achievements.
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Old 01-05-2012, 06:05 AM   #641
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It is unfortunate that Bill's time was wasted instructing you...at least he got paid. If you were truly a student, you would have learned the humility that is part of "the man in the arena". I too was a student...I left bruised and exhausted but exhilarated. I go on roads I never would have attempted before...I get to the starting line always! I finish rarely...but I am there...usually one of the few women and few short people. I show up...do you? I encourage others...do you? We admire Bill, not for what he might do but for what he did do...he entered a mind blowing race with privately earned funds...no large corporate sponsor. He and Julie were fund raisers, mechanics, fabricators, travel agents, shipping foremen, trainer, athlete, racer...do I really need to go on? As a Russian would you ever be able to grasp capitalism; the dream you build yourself?. Sound like you have been in America awhile ..time to take a mint because what you radiate is foul smelling
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Old 01-05-2012, 07:28 AM   #642
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Wow russianbonehead you really know how to turn a whole lot of people against you really quickly! From experience I can tell you that just getting to the starting line is a whole lot more success than you can possibly conceive. Like a previous poster said: until you post your own sorry ass at a real rally keep your mouth shut when it comes to dissing someone else's achievements.

While Russianbear didn't state his opinion very eloquently he has valid points. Whether or not he really has ground to be passing judgement has yet to be determined.

That said it IS impressive that Bill managed to get accepted to compete in the event. He successfuly arranged and built a bike, covered his expenses, and made it to the starting line. He completed the first day and unfortunately had to pull out due to mechanical damage if I read correctly.

My point being that the Dakar is a challenge for rally veterans with significant backing. Unfortunately for us mere mortal riders who are primarily self funded who work other jobs the odds are just heavily stacked against us. To compete in the Dakar for your first event is incredibly ambitious and you have to go in with the full understanding that success is slim. Unfortunately the Dakar is structured to eliminate competitors and there is zero cushion for problems. Many other events give you the option to restart the next day if you have to pull out the day before for a mechanical issue...giving you more experince and seat time at the consequence of an excessive penalty. Further compound things with this 450 rule for motorcycles...gone are the days of running a robust 600 sized bike...now figure out how to make a 450 run hard for 15 days and not fall apart.


I will further say that it would be great to have a whole year to test machinery and rider and gear. As it usually happens it is an all out scramble to get everything done all the way down to 3 seconds before scrutineering. We rallyists dream of the event where we put the car/bike on the trailer and enjoy a leisurely drive to the start and a relaxing day before tech. IN 15 years of rallying I have yet to experience this. Prepping for the Safari was no different and the dakar is another whole realm.
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Old 01-05-2012, 07:35 AM   #643
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[QUOTE=JALnSC;17666876 .............. the riders on this thread are some of the most skilled riders in the world......[/QUOTE]


well speak for yourself...I suck off road and know it......
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well speak for yourself...I suck off road and know it......
The riders on this thread are some of the most skilled in the world....and some of the least skilled are very honest about their abilities
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... The riders on this thread are some of the most skilled riders in the world...
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well speak for yourself...I suck off road and on and know it......
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