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Old 08-04-2011, 07:06 AM   #16
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Jim,

I just cannot believe I'll be able to get the new boot in there and seated correctly. I guess at this point I'll go on faith that it will work with a new boot.

I have to wait for the part to come and then I'll be away for a few days. We'll be in to next week before I can get to it. Bike's been down 2 weeks and counting and I'm getting frustrated.

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Old 08-04-2011, 07:08 AM   #17
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You wont have any issue getting the new one in. It is generally replaced with the swingarm on. I've done it a couple times.

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Old 08-04-2011, 09:09 AM   #18
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I just knew this installation was going to get exciting I await the next chapter. Hurry back Tiz Standby JVB
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Old 08-04-2011, 09:58 AM   #19
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Tiz, got my (previously yours) adventure bags yesterday, link.

Good luck with your driveshaft.
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Old 08-04-2011, 12:07 PM   #20
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Weazy - thanks much. Enjoy.

Malloy - glad to be entertaining.

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Old 08-04-2011, 04:20 PM   #21
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I have an '06..

..could you post some pic's so the rest of us can follow along??

Thanks,

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Old 08-04-2011, 06:23 PM   #22
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Jim,

I expect you are correct about the distorted/incorrectly installed boot.

I'll try with a new boot.

I would really like to know how to remove the swingarm.

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The boot could have been removed for several reasons: leaking transmission seals, leaking clutch slave, hand guard in contact with clutch lever, broken teeth on flywheel, excessive flywheel run out (causing judder) and if it was early enough there was a flywheel recall. When I worked at a dealer the joke was "6K and a clutch". They did get better by 2006.
Call you dealer and have the run the VIN they should be able to tell you if BMW paid to have the swingarm removed.
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Old 08-05-2011, 06:58 AM   #23
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TIZ - I agree with WJHerrick - please post some pictures so we can follow along. I hope to learn something here to ease reinstalling the drive shaft. As you now know, it is a tight fit up there between the swing arm and transmission making the install pretty touchy. Good luck.
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Old 08-05-2011, 07:31 PM   #24
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This thread is good timing for me. I am planning on replacing the front boot, and I was wondering how to remove the driveshaft.
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Old 08-09-2011, 04:38 PM   #25
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All - I'll try to get some pictures but there's not much to photograph without a boroscope.

I would like to restate the problem I am having just to be clear.

With the swing arm on the bike and the forward boot completely removed from the bike. How do you re-install the boot? Which direction do you install it from and how do you seat it into the swingarm? The driveshaft is out so that is not a concern. The shock is disconnected so I can move the swingarm up or down easily as needed.

I now have a brand-new boot and cannot install it. I am installing it from the shock side of the swingarm, over the swingarm. Every time I do, the lock ring is displaced and either falls into the boot or falls into the swingarm.


Please, if anyone can guide me on removing the swing arm I'd appreciate it. I can't wait to buy the manual. I'd like to ride the bike before October. I appreciate Jim and everyone's guidance but there is no way to do this with the swing arm mounted. There is not enough room.

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Old 08-09-2011, 05:05 PM   #26
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All,

1: the space I'm working with

http://flic.kr/p/abzfbn

2: the boot, held against the frame adjacent to the place it goes

http://flic.kr/p/abzfbr

3: the ring end of the boot before install

http://flic.kr/p/abzfbx

4: after install, looking up the swingarm at the displaced ring

http://flic.kr/p/abzfbB


Ain't no way.

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Old 08-09-2011, 06:02 PM   #27
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Kevin,
Just went thru the process of replacing a bent rear subframe. I now see that the boot on my bike will not stay seated in the swingarm. Looks like I might need to remove the swingarm and replace the boot as well. To get the swingarm off, you need to loosen the locknut on the allenhead bolt, then you should be able to remove the allen bolt. Once that is off, remove bolts on opposite side, then I used a long ratchet extension to reach the pin from shifter side and knock it out. Then swingarm should come off, pretty sure you need to remove all brake lines and such.
When I reinstalled my rear subframe, I attached the boot to the engine first, as well as the driveshaft, I think that was my mistake. I was worried about getting the tiewrap in place and instead put that on first. Make sure when reinstalling the swingarm, you torque the allen head to proper torque prior to tightening the locknut, very low torque. I used 10nm which is what I was told. I forget what the locknut is torqued to, but it's a lot. I hope this helps. Good luck,

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Old 08-09-2011, 06:02 PM   #28
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Biggest problem with removing the swingarm is that I can't get the left side pin/bolt out. Locknut is off, applied some propane torch heat which only seems to make it tighter.

Do I heat the swingarm where the bolt seems to enter?

I'm having XR400 flashbacks and that wasn't pretty.

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Old 08-10-2011, 05:09 AM   #29
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The boot goes in swing arm side first. It is tricky but can be done, a little grease will help things snap into place. If you can not remove the swing arm you will have to remove the sub-frame.
If the boots snap ring is deformed you will need to buy another new one.
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Old 08-10-2011, 06:19 AM   #30
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Ok - biggest problem is that I can not loosen the left side allen bolt. It turns about 1/8 turn either way but can't get it out. I'm worried I'll strip the hex out of it.

I have heated it and soaked it with pb blaster and wd40. Also heated the swingarm where I expect the bolt screws in to. Any heat sems to tighten it and make it harder to move. I am turning it counter clockwise to loosen - hopefully that is the correct way to turn it.

At this point I'm ready to throw in the towel and put it together without the front boot and ride it to Max BMW in Danbury and let them deal with it. Unless someone has a really good suggestion of what to do next.

A chain drive looks pretty good to me right now.

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