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Old 03-10-2005, 08:47 PM   #16
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Fighter: I'm coming from the south, BC to Whitehorse.

Curtis: Yes, thank you for the fuel help.

Legion: Now I'm worried...In reference to suspension/handling do you think I should take the 1300VTX over the K-bike? I REALLY, REALLY want to take the K-bike. As for body damage both are in excellent condition, K has original paint / logos. As I see it, unless I total a bike, (and I've come close) it's just money. And I'm lavish with it on my bikes. So I can dress it up when I get back.
I guess the bottom line is, I'm doing this ride, no matter what. I just would like it to go as well as possible.

Sounds great. Take the K. I have an '85 RS. Love it. First KRS sold in Alaska. 14K miles and runs strong. I will keep it parked and take the GS to Inuvik. Keep in touch.
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Old 03-10-2005, 11:18 PM   #17
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Legion: Now I'm worried...In reference to suspension/handling do you think I should take the 1300VTX over the K-bike? I REALLY, REALLY want to take the K-bike. As for body damage both are in excellent condition, K has original paint / logos. As I see it, unless I total a bike, (and I've come close) it's just money. And I'm lavish with it on my bikes. So I can dress it up when I get back.
I can't help w/ the VTX choice ...I don't know what that is. I'm guessing it's not intended to be taken off road though. I wouldn't worry about anything in particular but you may find that you meet very few other people on luxo street bikes en route to Inuvik. Much will depend on road conditions and no amount of worry will have an affect there.

A buddy and I took the Taylor Hwy from Tok to Dawson City a couple years ago and he was on a K/LT. Some scuffing was involved but that could've been avoided had either of us considered that morning that there actually are alternatives to making your goal despite the risk. It's not like you get a medal for wrasslin' a luxo barge through bad conditions in the middle of nowhere so just bear in mind that road conditions may play a role.

Here's the trip I referred to:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...ghlight=dawson
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Old 03-11-2005, 08:31 AM   #18
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As I see it, unless I total a bike, (and I've come close) it's just money. And I'm lavish with it on my bikes. So I can dress it up when I get back.
If money is no object then by a street legal XR at the Whitehorse Honda on the way up and go have fun on the Dempster and then give it back to them on consignment when your done. The loss there minus the parts you replace on your nice bikes will be minimal.
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Old 03-14-2005, 07:32 PM   #19
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Curtis, That sounds interesting and something I'd not considered. I'll look in to that. Thanx
I know when I was in Eagle Plains there was a guy there on a Gold Wing. His electrical system was shorted out and he was stuck. I met up with him in Fairbanks again and he told me he finally figured it out as a shorted brake light that shutdown the whole bike. Amazing that wasn't fused but that's another story. The washboard road can eventually take a toll on a bike without proper off-road suspension.

It is very possible to ride the Dempster with a street bike and have no issues. It's also very possible to ruin your bike and it will never be the same. The weather usually hold's the key and also not wrecking of course.

You also may be able to rent a bike for the weekend or somewhere up there and keep your bike in Whitehorse until your done with the Dempster. I don't know about these things but worth looking into to preserve your nice bikes as best you can.

I stayed at the River View Hotel when I was in Whitehorse. The Manager at the time was Bridgette and I believe from Austria. She loved motorcycles and really catered to our needs. She had an underground garage that she let us put our bikes in at night and locked it up, lot's of theft in Whitehorse. She also let us ship tires ahead to install in Whitehorse. Southwest Moto tires actually handled sending up a new set of tires to her and they did a great job.
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Old 03-14-2005, 08:21 PM   #20
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Shoganai - way back in '87 I rode up from California to Inuvik and back (on
a dual-sport thumper) and it was the ride of my life. I also owned a K-RS
at the time and could not have imagined riding it in some of the
conditions I encountered on the Dempster, not to mention this 100 mile
river of mud from somewhere to somewhere else in Alberta. But when
I got home, I rode my K-bike over many miles of dirt and gravel in
Death Valley, and you know what - it wasn't a bad dirt bike, and it sure
would have been nice to have that fairing, and the bags, not to mention
1000cc, up in the North. Ride what you got and have fun! I don't think
you can find any dirt-oriented tires for the K Bike unless there are Distanzias
in the right size.
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Old 03-14-2005, 11:34 PM   #21
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Just rent a KLR from Keith in Palmer, he'll probably let you leave your K bike at his house. It's cheaper than buying a bike for the run up the Dumpster. Do not choose the VTX over the K bike for this trip, you'll regret it. If you need tires call me ahead with size and date of arrival, we'll have them ready for you. Barb
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Old 03-15-2005, 04:45 AM   #22
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Why not go now?

http://alaska.derrickandlove.net/HUBERT%20TRIP.htm
My trip
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Old 03-23-2005, 08:14 AM   #23
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Old 03-23-2005, 10:21 AM   #24
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Curtis: Thanx for the advice. I had no idea about the logistics of this trip when I decided to do this. Also thanx for the theft warning. Where I live, I leave the keys in my van and bikes and have never locked my house.
Also: What do you think about adding a fuel cell?
And for a tourist paced ride should I plan 3-4 days on Dempster?
I'm not an expert on fuel cells but I know the iron butt guys that never want to stop for gas use them. I guess I've never though of range because iv'e got a GS ADV, with an 8Gal tank. Isn't it just a seperate tank though with it's own fuel pump? For me it seems like alot of weight to carry if you only really need it once or twice on your trip. I remember you saying you do 30k a year and do alot of traveling though so maybe it's something you need for use all the time. Curious how far do you like to ride before you stop before a break?

It took me about 2.5 days up and back on the Dempster with great weather and great road conditions. We weren't really killing ourselves but not slow either. What is tourist paced, slow or fast? Tourist paced slow would be 2 full days up with good weather, plenty of places to stay in Inuvik. Half way up you can stay in Eagle plains if your not planning to camp. On the way back you'll be seeing the same things over so maybe you won't take as many pictures and will travel faster. I treated myself to a night at the Dawson City downtown hotel when I got finished.

Keep an eye on the weather and forecasts. Best case is it's been good weather for a few days before you leave and not forecasted to rain while your on the road. If it is sloppy the time to drive the road could triple.
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Old 04-08-2005, 08:40 AM   #25
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It's an interesting concept but honestly, too big and cumbersome (54lbs. full). The flexible thing sounds good until you try to carry it somewhere on your bike. Then there's the issue with some spot becoming a rub mark with the rest of your gear and eventually becoming a hole.

If you don't like to stop then I suspect your saddle is fine so you don't get sore. For me that's my limitation, I need to stretch and walk for a few minutes. If you really want something permanent for all your trips regardless of fuel availability, then look into one of the ironbutt metal tanks or an aftermarket replacement tank. These ironbutt guys modify their bikes so they never have to stop for gas, well almost never.

http://www.ironbutt.com/tech/auxfuel.cfm
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Old 04-08-2005, 08:56 PM   #26
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Thanx Curtis...and yes my seat is very comfy.

How about Catz vs PIAA lights? Any thoughts, suggestions, etc...?
http://www.eliteone.com/catz2.htm

And the other thing I want is a helmet/bike cam, I'm looking at Viosport Adventure Cam 3.
http://www.viosport.com/store/custom...e=ac3_overview
Anybody have any advice or recommendations?
Cool helmet cam. That's one of the better images I've seen from them and I've always wanted one. As for the lights, remember where your going it doesn't get dark. Are you looking for high beam augment or low beam?
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Old 04-08-2005, 10:31 PM   #27
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How about Catz vs PIAA lights? Any thoughts, suggestions, etc...?
http://www.eliteone.com/catz2.htm
Lots of sunlight during the summer months. AUX lights might increase other driver's awareness, but you won't be needing them to light up the road.

Hella makes a nice product at a reasonable price.
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Old 04-09-2005, 09:49 AM   #28
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I'm no light expert but there are plenty on this site. I would recommend searching for light threads and then posting about lights if you don't find anything. Alot of the info though will be about dual sport bikes and we like big ugly stuff on our bikes.

I installed the Sylvania HID's that Micatech were selling for a long time. These lights have served me well for low beam augment but they wouldn't fit or look right on your K bike. For high beam I've been interested in these.

http://www.trailtech.net/motorcycle_hid_parts.htm

Obviously I like the HID variety of lights. These could be illegal to use on highway, although I haven't read any disclaimers.

This is all dual sport stuff though and I'm not sure what would be best for a K bike. It looks like their all fairing and not sure of where to mount an aftermarket light. Most likely under the headlight where the fairing stops for the tire well. In this case they have to be relatively small.

If price is no object and you want very big light in a small package, then the Hella Micro DE Xenon seems like a sturdy and unobtrusive choice.
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Old 04-09-2005, 02:23 PM   #29
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Owlseye - I'm headed to Alaska and the northern territories this summer. I'm leaving the first week of June, but will head east and then south first so I can get a running start at Alaska from Key West. I've been to Alaska before, but rode my R1200C. This time I'm armed with a GS Adventure and plan on putting on knobbies in Fairbanks. My plan is to get to Prudhoe Bay and then from there head to all of the dirt and gravel that I can find in Canada. I start my serious planning for this ride after the tax season and then I'm gone. Maybe we can end up doing some of Alaska together if our schedules synch up. Check this thread in a few weeks for an intenerary.
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