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Old 07-30-2012, 04:08 PM   #31
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Old 07-30-2012, 04:39 PM   #32
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what is the consensus on the cause of death all these years later. I caught the end of it last night and it said there wasn't a broken bone in his body. I thought when it happened I remembered reading he hit so hard due to the speed he had brain injuries from the impact.

the flim indicated last night part of the front of the car hit him? is that the accepted cause? head trauma caused by part of the front car/A-frame that broke off?

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Old 07-30-2012, 04:52 PM   #33
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Ayrton...

flug, the word when it happened and ever since then is that a part of the wishbone front suspension nailed him through his helmet...left a hole like a 44 Mag.
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Old 07-30-2012, 05:12 PM   #34
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flug, the word when it happened and ever since then is that a part of the wishbone front suspension nailed him through his helmet...left a hole like a 44 Mag.
thanks.

I just checked wikpedia. he lost a LOT of blood. possible severed brain stem. what a mess that was.
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Old 07-30-2012, 05:25 PM   #35
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The purdiest Ducati we ever owned was a 2002 Monster 750 Senna for my son's grad present. Drop dead beautiful.

Took it to college in Tempe, and crashed it at Firebird raceway...
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Old 07-30-2012, 05:31 PM   #36
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Old 07-30-2012, 06:57 PM   #37
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quite a story. what/why are the sparks coming off the cars so much?
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:57 PM   #38
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quite a story. what/why are the sparks coming off the cars so much?
Probably thebottom of the car bottoming on the track. 1200bhp, manual gearbox, very little downforce, very little safety design features, watch the Top Gear feature listed above to get a better idea on what animals these cars were. Louis Hamilton is like a kid in a toy shop when given the chance to drive one of Senna's F1 cars.
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Old 07-30-2012, 10:18 PM   #39
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quite a story. what/why are the sparks coming off the cars so much?
They used to run titanium skid blocks for when the fuel load was high. The "plank" rule stopped the need for them.
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:49 AM   #40
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watched the whole thing last night. very cool.

I thought Prost was portrayed as an adversary not a villian.

the drivers meeting's were pretty cool, the one where Senna walked out of was pretty insightful to the politics. the other driver was basically saying that you have to enter the track against the oncoming traffic and Senna got penalized for not doing that the week prior.

seems to me like all these years later if Prost is still close with Senna's family and charity foundation that it was nothing more than the 2 best drivers on the planet being extremely competitive and at the time not liking each other. given the stakes not surprising. sounds like Senna's definition of racing was simple. win at all costs. the wreck that took him and Prost out in first turn that gave Senna the title didn't appear to be Senna's fault. Plus he had the pole and they made him line up far side of track?

Senna's onboard camera in Monte Carlo.

A real time warp seeing the Prince of Monaco and his daughter. Very cool film too bad he was lost the guy was like Elvis in star power it seems.
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:59 AM   #41
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. . .the wreck that took him and Prost out in first turn that gave Senna the title didn't appear to be Senna's fault.
It was. The following year he admitted he speared Prost on purpose, out of some megalomaniacal need to avenge his mistreatment at the hands of the FIA. His press conference explaining all of this was conveniently left out of the movie.
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Old 07-31-2012, 10:07 AM   #42
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i found the funeral scene quite powerful - showing the people at the casket and then the flashbacks to 'better times' with senna
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Old 07-31-2012, 10:09 AM   #43
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Prost made his first appearance at Goodwood Festival of Speed this year. In an interview he was asked whether or not he'd come to terms with the way the film depicts things. Short answer is that he was very unhappy still.
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:42 AM   #44
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It was. The following year he admitted he speared Prost on purpose, out of some megalomaniacal need to avenge his mistreatment at the hands of the FIA. His press conference explaining all of this was conveniently left out of the movie.

Actually I think he (Ayrton) felt like things should be done a certain way (grid position) and if there was going to be an incident it would be the fault of the FIA because the weren't behaving correctly. I don't think it was an ego thing with Ayrton I think he thought there was a right way and a wrong way and he wasn't going to adjust to something he felt was wrong. Causing a crash might very well be ridiculous but I think Ayrton was unwilling to to bend on his beliefs and I respect that.
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:44 AM   #45
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They used to run titanium skid blocks for when the fuel load was high. The "plank" rule stopped the need for them.

Was there a better sight in F1 than the cars bottoming on the approach to Eau Rouge?
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