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Old 12-19-2011, 09:30 AM   #16
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150cc's of aircooled rage...

Great for getting ran over on the Super Slab prone North America...

After the ohh and ahh factor of another pick in the market wears off... It won't be such a hot pick.

Why not buy an old Honda CB? They look the same, have higher quality and should have parts availability...?
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Old 12-19-2011, 09:33 AM   #17
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They actually built hundreds of thousands of engines for...HONDA. Right there in Taiwan. US bound HONDAS at that...
Same thing as China built BMW's, Honda has a guy in the "QC" department... Does SYM?

I hope SYM didn't hire the guys that were in charge of notifying the public of Enron's stock price...


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Old 12-19-2011, 10:08 AM   #18
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Yeah, that's how it reads. Thanks for not adding anything to the thread.

To the OP - how does the fit and finish of the various plastic parts (throttle assemblies, etc) and the metal parts (handlebars, brake levers, forks, frame, swingarm) seem? I worked for a while as a mechanic assembling and repairing Chinese built bikes that looked a lot like that SYM (sold here in Russia under the Patron brand name). Overall fit and finish always looked and felt very cheap - overly shiny "chrome" on the exhaust and bars, hard rubber (nearly plastic) grips and throttle assemblies with a lot of play in them, unsealed chains, etc. Just wanting to hear your thoughts on how the SYM compares to a Japanese bike.
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Old 12-19-2011, 10:22 AM   #19
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Yeah, that's how it reads. Thanks for not adding anything to the thread.

i did add something? Buy it, because it's new and "cool", ride it on the highway in places like New York, Nashville and other metropolises, and you won't be be back to post on it and tell us how cool it is.

I hope MaineScoot isnt a dealer, and this isn't a "feeler" thread... (Because that's how it reads to me)

Otherwise, why stop at 150cc's? There are tons of cool little 50cc 2T's out there that can do the same thing... Get you killed...
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Old 12-19-2011, 10:36 AM   #20
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i did add something? Buy it, because it's new and "cool", ride it on the highway in places like New York, Nashville and other metropolises, and you won't be be back to post on it and tell us how cool it is.

I hope MaineScoot isnt a dealer, and this isn't a "feeler" thread... (Because that's how it reads to me)

Otherwise, why stop at 150cc's? There are tons of cool little 50cc 2T's out there that can do the same thing... Get you killed...
Then whence comes the post about "just buy a Honda CB"? It sounds more like you're distrustful of the fact that it's not a Japanese bike, not that it's only 150cc's. That point swims up in both posts you made...
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:59 PM   #21
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There are no SYM dealers here in Maine, Iheart. I bought my SYM in Pa. And there is a good chance that your CB was made by SYM..
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Old 12-21-2011, 09:13 AM   #22
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Little 150

I have had mine about 2 weeks almost 600 miles on it now 17 t counter shaft, next rejet, I really like
your little saddle bags what are they ? Changing the counter gave me a 60 mph cruising speed without to many revs. These are great little bikes Honda quality 3k$ out the door and 90 mpg.
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Old 12-21-2011, 11:07 AM   #23
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I'll restate my question because I feel like it was ignored, or went unnoticed.

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How does the fit and finish of the various plastic parts (throttle assemblies, etc) and the metal parts (handlebars, brake levers, forks, frame, swingarm) seem? I worked for a while as a mechanic assembling and repairing Chinese built bikes that looked a lot like that SYM (sold here in Russia under the Patron brand name). Overall fit and finish always looked and felt very cheap - overly shiny "chrome" on the exhaust and bars, hard rubber (nearly plastic) grips and throttle assemblies with a lot of play in them, unsealed chains, etc. Just wanting to hear your thoughts on how the SYM compares to a Japanese bike.
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Old 12-21-2011, 11:23 AM   #24
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I'll restate my question because I feel like it was ignored, or went unnoticed.
They are Honda quality all thru, not China junk. Check them out you will see.
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Old 12-21-2011, 11:37 AM   #25
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i did add something? Buy it, because it's new and "cool", ride it on the highway in places like New York, Nashville and other metropolises, and you won't be be back to post on it and tell us how cool it is.


Contrary to your belief, not everyone lives in such "metropolises". I've put 2000 miles on my 125 scooter this year, if that hasn't gotten me killed I don't think this bike would either.
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:02 PM   #26
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They are Honda quality all thru, not China junk. Check them out you will see.
I don't think we'll ever get them here in Russia, the market isn't big enough to support it - people can hardly afford the cheap Chinese shit that sells for 1000 USD.

I was just interested in how well "off-brand" stuff is made, having some experience with the "lowest of the low"
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Old 12-29-2011, 06:41 PM   #27
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17t sprocket? What is it and where did you get this?
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Old 12-29-2011, 07:19 PM   #28
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I'll restate my question because I feel like it was ignored, or went unnoticed
A_Vasiliev I think the quality of the fit and finish is very good. Without a prime CB125S to compare with side by side I can't say if it's the match of the Honda - certainly this isn't a CB125S. It's different, but good. I was very impressed seeing the bike in person the first time - it's better than the pics. I've owned over a hundred mc in the last 40 years, mostly Japanese, and I think this bike is just fine.

IheartmyNx asks why not just find a CB125S? You mean some 35 year old abused piece of junk that the current owner thinks is worth $2,000? In watching the LA CL for 2 years I seen a handfull of CB's go by. One of them looked in excellent condition. The rest not so much. If there were zillions of nice CB's available IheartmyNx would have a good point. But the reality is it's far easier to just buy a Wolf from a dealer than it is searching out a decent CB125. And with the Wolf you are getting a new bike, not one with an unknown history, 35 year old rubber and electrics, and NOS parts situation. Once I became aware you could buy one of these in Cali I jumped on it. If Suzuki had gotten the TU250 through the CARB process I probably would have been on the lookout for a used one. But that didn't happen. As for the Ninja 250 or the CBR250 my wife could not care less for the style. And the cruisers even more so.

IheartmyNx also makes a point that the Wolf is too slow to be safe. Hmmm, the safety point could be made about any motorcycle, compared to cars. Anyway, I think as long as the buyer doesn't have unrelistic expectations and doesn't take it into big city rush hour traffic or on to the freeway the level of risk will be about the same as the next motorcycle. Even the WR250X isn't up to big city freeway action. We've been riding around out here in the desert, wife on the Wolf, and it's fast enough. We cruise at a true 60 mph and it pulls that on uphills too. i'm usually riding my WR250R and really it's about how fast I go on it when I'm alone.
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Old 12-29-2011, 08:56 PM   #29
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17t sprocket

This is were I got my 17t counter shaft sprocket, if there is anyone looking, and you don't have to cut the chain.
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Good looking bikes. I really hope the quality is there and they do well...
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