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Old 11-19-2012, 02:54 PM   #6301
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Thanks a ton for that info. I just ordered a couple of those gadgets from you. The first time I had my pump out it took a long time to figure out how to disconnect those things! I guess I managed to do it OK as I have had no problems, but the perfect tool is always a godsend.


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We have had problems getting those "snap" connectors apart,once they have been immersed in fuel for a while,and had a couple of bikes that were loosing fuel pressure and would start,but not run,because owners had used screwdrivers etc to push back the barbs on the connectors when getting them apart.This meant they did not re-secure properly when re connected,and the fuel pump pressure was forcing them apart,so loosing pressure.But you could not tell,because the leaky connector just leaks internally into the tank.The only way we proved it was to pull the pump and pipework right out,put it in a bucket with petrol and cycle the pump,then we saw the fuel coming out of the connector.
Since then we have made our own plastic tool to disconnect the snap-fit connectors properly,which we supply to several KTM dealers,as even these guys struggle with them,as a lot of the SX and EXC are using the same connectors on their FI system.

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Old 11-19-2012, 03:43 PM   #6302
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About running the tank low - I thought the thinking was to fill up before the low fuel light came on in an attempt to stop the fuel pump self destructing. Do I need to keep doing this, cos' it's a bit of a PITA.
I don't know what others here have been doing, but..

With my 2008, I ran it until the fuel light came on most times, however, NEVER ran it completely out of gas that I can remember. I had a little over 30k miles on it when the engine died, and was still on the original fuel pump/ filter. Although, I did carry a CA Cycleworks pump for backup on longer trips, just in case..

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Old 11-19-2012, 11:29 PM   #6303
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I mostly fill up after the fuel light is on for some time. Ran it dry a couple of times, no problems with fuel pomp. Did 28.000km so far. Change the fuel filter every year and had to buy a new injector a few month ago.
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:36 PM   #6304
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During a 2 day ride in Big Bend, I decided to see how far my 2012 690 could go after the low fuel warning light comes on...
The KTM manual only says that when the light comes on, the trip odo changes to zero and counts up ....
doesn't say how far it will count or what those numbers represent...???
Anyone have a guess as to what the numbers mean???
Do we care what the numbers mean??

I ran my 08 out of gas may 6-8 times. The best I ever got was 32.4 miles after the low fuel light came on but I also remember running out of fuel at 24.

I just posted a new (1 mile) 2011 690 for sale in the flea market. I've also got a few extras I may be willing to sale separately as well...

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Old 11-20-2012, 04:18 AM   #6305
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I'm looking at a 690 for my next bike and have heard mixed reports about the differences between a 2009-2011 690 and 2012+.

Are there any differences other then the seat height, suspension travel, engine displacement, and headlight?
That's about it. Well, there are a few other small changes, mainly cosmetic.

20082011 Enduro models share the same instrument panel with 2012 Enduro R, previous Enduro R had a different one. I think the 2012 model also has slightly different mounting points on the side panels.

Oh yeah, 2012 model also has a different oil pump cover because of the new oil pressure switch. The official service interval also went up from 7,5k to 10k for the 2012.

Other than that there shouldn't be too many differences.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:04 AM   #6306
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That's about it. Well, there are a few other small changes, mainly cosmetic.

20082011 Enduro models share the same instrument panel with 2012 Enduro R, previous Enduro R had a different one. I think the 2012 model also has slightly different mounting points on the side panels.

Oh yeah, 2012 model also has a different oil pump cover because of the new oil pressure switch. The official service interval also went up from 7,5k to 10k for the 2012.

Other than that there shouldn't be too many differences.

Actually, 08 and 12 share the same instrument cluster/light (as well as other 690's). 09-11 Enduro's use a setup off the exc's, small dash, rubber strap mounted smaller headlight.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:45 AM   #6307
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The 2012 model has a much better turn radius than previous models...
different lower triple clamp...I think
my 2008 model has the same turn radius as the Exxon Valdez...
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:11 AM   #6308
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my 2008 model has the same turn radius as the Exxon Valdez...

Only time this is really a problem is when you are rolling it around in the garage
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:53 AM   #6309
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Only time this is really a problem is when you are rolling it around in the garage
I find it a pain on the singletrack switchbacks here in the Rockies. I havent mastered the wheelie turn yet on it
Dont think I ever will either.
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:02 AM   #6310
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The official service interval also went up from 7,5k to 10k for the 2012.

I think this was touched on awhile back but couldn't find the answer.


With the bikes being so similar (the '12 vs all the previous years), and the change from 7.5 to 10K, would it be safe to ASSume that all years are safely capable of a 10K service interval?

Or are there some major/minor mechanical differences that I'm not understanding?


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Old 11-20-2012, 01:11 PM   #6311
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Actually, 08 and 12 share the same instrument cluster/light (as well as other 690's). 09-11 Enduro's use a setup off the exc's, small dash, rubber strap mounted smaller headlight.
Right, thank's for the correction. I also realized that I wrote "oil pump cover" in my previous post when I meant "oil filter cover"

That new filter cover (with the new oil pressure switch) means that you need an open-ended short filter so the filters from previous models are not compatible.

You can still use old type filters but then you have the annoyance of watching the oil pressure light glowing in the dash.
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Old 11-20-2012, 03:45 PM   #6312
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Hello all!

Can I ask that someone out there with a 2011 ER & TuneECU snap a screenshot of the 'Diagnostics' page; specifically the values under throttle? Blip the throttle several times then snap a photo with it closed :)

The 11 ER has a different TPS/TB from the 08-10 ER thus my question.

It's the best I can get in terms of APAD/THAD values (connector attached of course)

Thanks all

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Old 11-20-2012, 04:30 PM   #6313
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Only time this is really a problem is when you are rolling it around in the garage
Yep, Everywhere else I steer with the throttle
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:52 AM   #6314
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Other than that there shouldn't be too many differences.
Suspension travel 275 -> 250mm for 2010 to 2012 enduro R
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Old 11-21-2012, 02:55 AM   #6315
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That new filter cover (with the new oil pressure switch) means that you need an open-ended short filter so the filters from previous models are not compatible.

You can still use old type filters but then you have the annoyance of watching the oil pressure light glowing in the dash.
My dealer and I learned this the hard way. Replaced lots of parts searching for the reason for the low oil pressure light. Turned out the 2011 filters were installed at the first service. Correct 2012 filters solved it.
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