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Old 11-20-2012, 05:18 AM   #6331
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I'm looking at a 690 for my next bike and have heard mixed reports about the differences between a 2009-2011 690 and 2012+.

Are there any differences other then the seat height, suspension travel, engine displacement, and headlight?
That's about it. Well, there are a few other small changes, mainly cosmetic.

20082011 Enduro models share the same instrument panel with 2012 Enduro R, previous Enduro R had a different one. I think the 2012 model also has slightly different mounting points on the side panels.

Oh yeah, 2012 model also has a different oil pump cover because of the new oil pressure switch. The official service interval also went up from 7,5k to 10k for the 2012.

Other than that there shouldn't be too many differences.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:04 AM   #6332
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That's about it. Well, there are a few other small changes, mainly cosmetic.

20082011 Enduro models share the same instrument panel with 2012 Enduro R, previous Enduro R had a different one. I think the 2012 model also has slightly different mounting points on the side panels.

Oh yeah, 2012 model also has a different oil pump cover because of the new oil pressure switch. The official service interval also went up from 7,5k to 10k for the 2012.

Other than that there shouldn't be too many differences.

Actually, 08 and 12 share the same instrument cluster/light (as well as other 690's). 09-11 Enduro's use a setup off the exc's, small dash, rubber strap mounted smaller headlight.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:45 AM   #6333
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The 2012 model has a much better turn radius than previous models...
different lower triple clamp...I think
my 2008 model has the same turn radius as the Exxon Valdez...
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:11 AM   #6334
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my 2008 model has the same turn radius as the Exxon Valdez...

Only time this is really a problem is when you are rolling it around in the garage
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:53 AM   #6335
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Only time this is really a problem is when you are rolling it around in the garage
I find it a pain on the singletrack switchbacks here in the Rockies. I havent mastered the wheelie turn yet on it
Dont think I ever will either.
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:02 AM   #6336
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The official service interval also went up from 7,5k to 10k for the 2012.

I think this was touched on awhile back but couldn't find the answer.


With the bikes being so similar (the '12 vs all the previous years), and the change from 7.5 to 10K, would it be safe to ASSume that all years are safely capable of a 10K service interval?

Or are there some major/minor mechanical differences that I'm not understanding?


Always looking to be educated.....


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Old 11-20-2012, 02:11 PM   #6337
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Actually, 08 and 12 share the same instrument cluster/light (as well as other 690's). 09-11 Enduro's use a setup off the exc's, small dash, rubber strap mounted smaller headlight.
Right, thank's for the correction. I also realized that I wrote "oil pump cover" in my previous post when I meant "oil filter cover"

That new filter cover (with the new oil pressure switch) means that you need an open-ended short filter so the filters from previous models are not compatible.

You can still use old type filters but then you have the annoyance of watching the oil pressure light glowing in the dash.
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Old 11-20-2012, 04:45 PM   #6338
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Hello all!

Can I ask that someone out there with a 2011 ER & TuneECU snap a screenshot of the 'Diagnostics' page; specifically the values under throttle? Blip the throttle several times then snap a photo with it closed :)

The 11 ER has a different TPS/TB from the 08-10 ER thus my question.

It's the best I can get in terms of APAD/THAD values (connector attached of course)

Thanks all

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Old 11-20-2012, 05:30 PM   #6339
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Only time this is really a problem is when you are rolling it around in the garage
Yep, Everywhere else I steer with the throttle
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:52 AM   #6340
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Other than that there shouldn't be too many differences.
Suspension travel 275 -> 250mm for 2010 to 2012 enduro R
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Old 11-21-2012, 03:55 AM   #6341
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That new filter cover (with the new oil pressure switch) means that you need an open-ended short filter so the filters from previous models are not compatible.

You can still use old type filters but then you have the annoyance of watching the oil pressure light glowing in the dash.
My dealer and I learned this the hard way. Replaced lots of parts searching for the reason for the low oil pressure light. Turned out the 2011 filters were installed at the first service. Correct 2012 filters solved it.
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Old 11-21-2012, 05:19 AM   #6342
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My dealer and I learned this the hard way. Replaced lots of parts searching for the reason for the low oil pressure light. Turned out the 2011 filters were installed at the first service. Correct 2012 filters solved it.
If the oil pressure sender is the same as the 690 rally bikes you may find the light will flicker/etc from time to time.The switch isnt very good quality and if mounted at 10am on the cover same as rallys will glow flicker when idling on side stand,was worried and checked oil pressure at oil filter housing reading was 55psi at idle with cold 10/60w motorex crosspower oil, what is the part no for a 2012 r filter?

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Old 11-21-2012, 05:42 AM   #6343
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If the oil pressure sender is the same as the 690 rally bikes you may find the light will flicker/etc from time to time.The switch isnt very good quality and if mounted at 10am on the cover same as rallys will glow flicker when idling on side stand,was worried and checked oil pressure at oil filter housing reading was 55psi at idle with cold 10/60w motorex crosspower oil, what is the part no for a 2012 r filter?
Part number for the filter is 75038046100.

The switch is located at the end of the pipe that starts from the filter cover (#31 in the picture).

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Old 11-21-2012, 06:58 AM   #6344
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Actually, 08 and 12 share the same instrument cluster/light (as well as other 690's). 09-11 Enduro R's use a setup off the exc's, small dash, rubber strap mounted smaller headlight.
Actually, outside US, non R Enduro has been produced and sold even in the "mid years"...
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Old 11-21-2012, 07:02 AM   #6345
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Part number for the filter is 75038046100.

The switch is located at the end of the pipe that starts from the filter cover (#31 in the picture).

Same filter as the rally replicia,wonder if the sender same part no,583 38 091 100?,be interested if the swich on the 2013 690 is a more reliable unit.
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