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Old 11-24-2012, 03:17 PM   #6361
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Mini, How far with testing are you willing to go? Drop it in a some fuel and attach a pressure gauge... About all you can do. Other than power it up and see that it spins up every time. After that you'll need to get technicial to trouble shoot it any deeper.

I spent the last couple of weeks building this high-tech test rig and clean room to test out the fuel pump. You may be able to see what I think is the issue in this video.

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Old 11-24-2012, 03:26 PM   #6362
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I spent the last couple of weeks building this high-tech test rig and clean room to test out the fuel pump. You may be able to see what I think is the issue in this video.

I think you found the problem.
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Old 11-24-2012, 03:29 PM   #6363
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New to this bike and new to fuel-injection so I'm turning to you "wise guys" for advice and/or input. I realize many are switching to the metal Napa filter and I will probably do the same. That said...

How much benefit would a secondary, in-line filter like this be?
http://justgastanks.com/product_info...oducts_id=2511
I,d go the golan , keep away from glass to much vibration IMO I will remove my internal filter and use a external filter , either a golan or a disposable



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Old 11-24-2012, 03:57 PM   #6364
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I've been using the WIX 33012 and it seems to be working and as I recall, 21 Microns. 5/16 barb and $4, fits in the quick disconnect location pretty well.

Any forum thoughts?
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Old 11-24-2012, 04:05 PM   #6365
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I added an extra loop of fuel line to get the filter out of the way of the air box. I am currently running a WIX (i think) universal plastic filter. It is visible from the side of the bike which is nice.

Sorry about the bad picture. I will try to get a better one up here soon if you guys want.
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Old 11-24-2012, 04:07 PM   #6366
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I added an extra loop of fuel line to get the filter out of the way of the air box. I am currently running a WIX (i think) universal plastic filter. It is visible from the side of the bike which is nice.

Sorry about the bad picture. I will try to get a better one up here soon if you guys want.
Do you know what the micron rating is by chance? DO we really need 10 micron?
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Old 11-24-2012, 04:14 PM   #6367
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Do you know what the micron rating is by chance? DO we really need 10 micron?
I'll know when I look at the part number tomorrow and google it. My bike is locked up tight and tucked in for the night.. and its 1:00 am.

In Portugal the "95" (US 87 equivalent) was a dark color, almost black. The "98" (US 89 I think) was a nice blue. Almost like it had 2 stroke oil. I'm not sure if they add dye to it? Anyway, my filter is black now from 2 tanks of fuel from Portugal. No problems with the bike running but I will keep you updated.
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Old 11-24-2012, 04:26 PM   #6368
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I added an extra loop of fuel line to get the filter out of the way of the air box. I am currently running a WIX (i think) universal plastic filter. It is visible from the side of the bike which is nice.

Sorry about the bad picture. I will try to get a better one up here soon if you guys want.

Exactly what I will do , but use a golan or disposable car filter , 20 - 25 micron , 10 will block as with the EXC injector filters , we had a recall to swap out to 20 .

I will make it quick and easy to change . There is plenty o reusable filters on the market , earls do some rocket industries do some.

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Old 11-24-2012, 04:32 PM   #6369
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If you skip the internal filter, how do you connect the fuel lines? They took out a few feet of (crimped) fuel line when my pump was replaced, but the filter is close to the other end. Where do you get the little clamps?
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Old 11-24-2012, 04:37 PM   #6370
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New to this bike and new to fuel-injection so I'm turning to you "wise guys" for advice and/or input. I realize many are switching to the metal Napa filter and I will probably do the same. That said...

How much benefit would a secondary, in-line filter like this be?
http://justgastanks.com/product_info...oducts_id=2511
Those glass filter are a screen more then a filter , quick and easy to clean and change. You can get similar but billet and replaceable filter but a little bigger .
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Old 11-24-2012, 04:49 PM   #6371
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If you skip the internal filter, how do you connect the fuel lines? They took out a few feet of (crimped) fuel line when my pump was replaced, but the filter is close to the other end. Where do you get the little clamps?
My local parts store had plastic fuel line repair kits in 1/4". Two brass barbed pipes and 4 crimps clamps for $5, worked like a charm.
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Old 11-24-2012, 05:29 PM   #6372
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Seat Concepts for 690R

Just want to shout out for Seat Concepts. I used a KTM gelseat on my 950 for 7 years. Good for 6 hours anyway. I use a stock Yamaha WR250R seat with the addition of a 'Buttpad' to similar effect. Not so with my 2012 690R...

2 hours was tops with the stock seat. It is too soft for me. The buttpad helped, but not enough. So I bought the Seat Concepts kit and I am shocked at how nice it is. They must have the secret sauce for foam pads. Firm, but not too firm. Vibration absorbtion is terrific.

I spent an extra $40 buying staple gear that wasn't strong enough to do the job on that fiberglas seat pan. I gave finally it to a seat guy and presto! But the whole thing cost nearly $300 by the time it was finished. Just sayin...

Great value since it works!




PS: The motor is finally smooth all the way through the range at 3500 miles. It's still a single, but right up there with my old LC8 twin at highway speeds.
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Old 11-24-2012, 05:44 PM   #6373
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Just want to shout out for Seat Concepts. I used a KTM gelseat on my 950 for 7 years. Good for 6 hours anyway. I use a stock Yamaha WR250R seat with the addition of a 'Buttpad' to similar effect. Not so with my 2012 690R...

2 hours was tops with the stock seat. It is too soft for me. The buttpad helped, but not enough. So I bought the Seat Concepts kit and I am shocked at how nice it is. They must have the secret sauce for foam pads. Firm, but not too firm. Vibration absorbtion is terrific.

I spent an extra $40 buying staple gear that wasn't strong enough to do the job on that fiberglas seat pan. I gave finally it to a seat guy and presto! But the whole thing cost nearly $300 by the time it was finished. Just sayin...

Great value since it works!


PS: The motor is finally smooth all the way through the range at 3500 miles. It's still a single, but right up there with my old LC8 twin at highway speeds.
Drat...there was one forsale here in NZ including the seat which I almost bought but then I read too many reviews that said they were too hard and don't bother...now this report singin its praises! I guess like everything in motorcycling (tires, exhausts, shocks, make, model, yada yada) the only way to know if it works for you is for you to try it. I should have bought it

PS: my bike was nowhere near as clean as yours after 3500 miles
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Old 11-24-2012, 06:44 PM   #6374
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Those glass filter are a screen more then a filter , quick and easy to clean and change. You can get similar but billet and replaceable filter but a little bigger .
Thanks for the reply's.

Where would be a good place to "snip" for the in-line. Would like easy access. Does anyone know if the fuel line is 5/16 or 3/8's?
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Old 11-24-2012, 06:51 PM   #6375
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I added an extra loop of fuel line to get the filter out of the way of the air box. I am currently running a WIX (i think) universal plastic filter. It is visible from the side of the bike which is nice.

Sorry about the bad picture. I will try to get a better one up here soon if you guys want.
Trying to picture the "extra loop" part. Would be interested in seeing a close up picture of your set-up.

Also curious - anyone carry a spare quick connect (fuel line) piece as part of your parts/tool kit? Heard they may prone to failing.
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