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Old 11-24-2012, 07:07 PM   #6376
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Thanks for the reply's.

Where would be a good place to "snip" for the in-line. Would like easy access. Does anyone know if the fuel line is 5/16 or 3/8's?
I removed my quick disconnect and put the filter there. I have a 5/16 barbed end filter.
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Old 11-24-2012, 07:18 PM   #6377
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I think you found the problem.
Interesting ....a week ago I asked about this potential issue:

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Question: Why is it that these "cheap" plastic filters are used for a pressure between 40-60 lbs psi , whereas years some years ago the BMW folks replaced their internal filters with metal-clad filters "because of the psi factor" ( ie. the filter would not explode due to pressure). I externalized the fuel filter on my 1100GS with the appropriate metal-clad filter and have not had to go into the tank to change filters.


Just wondering

I haven't read here or heard otherwise that these cheapo plastic filters have caused any problems.....

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Most cars,petrol & diesel,now use plastic injection-moulded 2part filter housings,that are usually ultrasonically welded together after the filter element is put in.
The vast improvement in thermoplastic materials over the last couple of decades has allowed for the safe replacement of metal-clad filters,and other under-bonnet parts,from metal to plastic.
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So, thermoplastic welding ain't all it's cracked up to be. .....so why don't we put that metal (quick-disconnect replacement) filter ( WIX 33012) in the tank as well????
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Old 11-24-2012, 07:30 PM   #6378
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Trying to picture the "extra loop" part. Would be interested in seeing a close up picture of your set-up.

Also curious - anyone carry a spare quick connect (fuel line) piece as part of your parts/tool kit? Heard they may prone to failing.
There are plastic QD's and metal ones....Buy the metal one....and also several extra Viton o-rings for the unit as they are easily nicked when reconnecting unless you are careful....press the release flange when reconnecting rather than just jamming them together to reconnect .

The failures are either cut o-rings or plastic ends (where fuel line is clamped) breaking off the main housing.


Learned all that years ago on the BMW GS thread....or Micapeak forum


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Old 11-24-2012, 07:41 PM   #6379
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Potential for the 690???

Algae fueled, turbo charged Baja 1K bike.

I don't know if I saw this here first. A San Diego project to Baja Test future fuels. There always seems to be a camera around.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=E7yePC-4nlg

Here's how it turned out......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRoLy...feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCqD2qodtdA


Looks like a beemer frame and drive train


Maybe BobZ can work this into his 690 alternative
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Old 11-24-2012, 07:42 PM   #6380
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Just went out and got an external fuel filter. A proflow 100m $40 , I will get a couple of replacement filters a 10 & 30m

http://pfefittings.com/product_info....oducts_id=6140

I suppose bigger the filter the longer it takes to clog so I'll try a 10 , being that is external it is easy to get to
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Old 11-24-2012, 08:18 PM   #6381
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I removed my quick disconnect and put the filter there. I have a 5/16 barbed end filter.
I like this idea since it removes the possible failure of the QD's I was questioning in prev post.

Any ol' fuel hose clamp do on the barbed ends of filter?

Sure like the idea of a clear housing but I suppose the glass may be damaged too easy.
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Old 11-24-2012, 11:42 PM   #6382
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replace filter and pump before they fail?

Guys, these fuel filter and pump issues are scary to me, I have some multi-day trips planned early 2013, where a failure would be extremely disruptive and costly, and I have only 11k km on my 2011 690R... would anybody recommend changing these before they fail for such trips? I dont know if I have the skills to do it myself in the garage, let alone on a trail somewhere. I have never used "low quality" fuel (only used it in france), so perhaps I can feel safe for another few thousand km? Maybe something to plan for the upcoming 15k service in a few months? thanks for any advice.
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Old 11-25-2012, 12:30 AM   #6383
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I'd say most of the issues are with 08 models , the pump swap is real easy , if you can take off the front wheel you can change the pump. There are a couple of post and check YouTube .
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Old 11-25-2012, 02:48 AM   #6384
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The only issue with swapping out the fuel pump is the fuel pissing out on the floor. If you have the do a replacement trailside you might end up with a serviceable pump and no fuel. Better do it in advance.
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Old 11-25-2012, 04:42 AM   #6385
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I bet it's just too close to the Honda I finally had to park the DL650 and the Sporty in between the 690 and the Ascot. Otherwise they would just bicker all the time.

When I had the same symptoms you did, it was a small leak in the line. Plenty of volume, and no pressure.

Now can you get it back together for ANF this weekend?

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I spent the last couple of weeks building this high-tech test rig and clean room to test out the fuel pump. You may be able to see what I think is the issue in this video.

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Old 11-25-2012, 06:08 AM   #6386
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Trying to picture the "extra loop" part. Would be interested in seeing a close up picture of your set-up.

Also curious - anyone carry a spare quick connect (fuel line) piece as part of your parts/tool kit? Heard they may prone to failing.
I replaced mine with a better made one. I think I got it from Beemer boneyard? In NJ.

The last thing I would do is spend more $$ on the same cheap POS that KTM put in there to begin with.
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:11 AM   #6387
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The only issue with swapping out the fuel pump is the fuel pissing out on the floor. If you have the do a replacement trailside you might end up with a serviceable pump and no fuel. Better do it in advance.
I disagree. My 08 had 30k miles on the original pump/ filter.

Carry a spare, just in case, but if it ain't broke, don't "fix" it.
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:26 AM   #6388
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I disagree. My 08 had 30k miles on the original pump/ filter.

Carry a spare, just in case, but if it ain't broke, don't "fix" it.
Mine died at around 12K miles, the replacement's still going after 15K
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Old 11-25-2012, 11:31 AM   #6389
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Billet 2-piece clutch cover

We have designed a 2-piece clutch cover to suit the 690 Enduro & SMC,enabling the clutch pack to be changed with removing the whole clutch casing.
This is a shot of the prototype model being CNC machined to try on the bike before production in billet.

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Old 11-25-2012, 01:32 PM   #6390
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Kaching !!!!


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