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Old 02-19-2013, 02:28 PM   #7336
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To get back on track, look at what I just got...

As others have said, it's a bummer this will be mostly hidden.

That is a nice looking clutch slave cylinder.

Is this an Oberon-manufactured part ?



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Old 02-19-2013, 02:36 PM   #7337
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Is this an Oberon-manufactured part?
Yup.
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:39 PM   #7338
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For sure. I think two t's is actually classical English, like flavour and shoppe ...
It's not 'classical English' - it's simply English as written in England, Australia and countries other than the US - who for some reason seem to need things to be phonetic - eg 'tyre' becomes 'tire' ...

I worked for a year for USDA in Colorado, and took great pleasure in ensuring that all my reports were written on a PC that had English as the default language - not US-English - endless complaints about 'specialise' (etc etc etc) - those reports never featured the word 'carburetted', but had they needed to ...
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:47 PM   #7339
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the US - who for some reason seem to need things to be phonetic - eg 'tyre' becomes 'tire' ...

If you're searching for someone to blame you can start with the outfit below


https://www.hookedonphonics.com/


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Old 02-19-2013, 02:55 PM   #7340
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:55 PM   #7341
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One of those episodes occured at a red light. When the light changed and I pulled the clutch in, it backfired and blew the muffler tip into the windshield of a Deputy Sheriff that was sitting behind me at the intersection....he wasn't amused...
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:01 PM   #7342
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Shame there's no more X-Challenges ..

There's a reason, it's a complete pile of shit.
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:05 PM   #7343
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Fuel injection certainly improves fuel economy, but the complexity doesn't by definition lead to a better bike ...





We are fortunate here in having a long-time KTM dealership with mechanics who have been working on these bikes since they were introduced – there is only one older KTM dealership in Australia ...

My point to someone a few pages back was that 690s are very complex bikes – and in my case an issue has arisen under warranty that continues to fox experienced mechanics and the tech mob at KTM Australia – if we can fix the issue (and I expect we will eventually) then the bike may prove reliable – but is it a good ADV bike?

The jury is out on that one, IMO – complexity isn’t necessarily what you want – at this point I admit I would probably prefer a mint condition 625 SXC – similar specs to the 690, but SIMPLE and easily fixable ... [/QUOTE]


I think you completely misunderstood the point of my post...which was simply....that many dealers were not/are not experienced in diagnosing and repairing the new fuel injected bikes. Some of them have become since the introduction but many still are not very good at it.

And I would further say that KTM 690's are no more complex than the earlier bikes. The engines still work the same way they just have more electronic bits on them...which you may view as more complex but I find less complex than the voodoo of carbureter tuning...or carburetter tuning depending on which spelling floats your ducky.



And carbureted has only one "T" while carburetted has two "T"s...as apparently it can be spelled both ways

car·bu·ret (kärb-rt, -rt, -by-)
tr.v. car·bu·ret·ed or car·bu·ret·ted, car·bu·ret·ing or car·bu·ret·ting, car·bu·rets
To combine or mix (a gas, for example) with volatile hydrocarbons, so as to increase available fuel energy.
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:10 PM   #7344
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I agree re' beemers - the difference being that BMW seem to have embraced technology and reliability as one - the two G650 X-Challenges we ride with are at least as capable as the 690 (with suspension mods), and appear to be bombproof - both close to 75,000km now, and all of that hard bush riding ...

I was tempted to get a Husky TE630 (still a few around then), but went with the KTM690 as I thought it was likely to be better sorted and more reliable - Husky sold very few TE630s here, as there were problems with 610 and the word got out that you couldn't depend on them - since buying the 690 (and spending a lot more on it than I would the TE630), I have come to realise that this bike is not in fact likely to be a more solid and reliable package than the 630 ...

Shame there's no more X-Challenges ..

Hopefully my current issue (which others seem to have experienced) will be rectifiable, and the rest of the bike will run reliably ...

The last time I rode with a friend who was on his X-challenge...the X challenge died mysteriously on top of a mountain and would not restart. We were very lucky in that a friend was close by with the truck to haul the bike home. Crankshaft can fill you in on that one.

My 950A was a great bike and I got 20,000 plus miles out of it with very few problems. It was a simple machine with known problems that were well documented but quite bitched over when they first came out.
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:15 PM   #7345
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My old F8GS had quite a few problems tbh, never stoped me from traveling though.

Ews ring, ABS issues, leaking gaskets, battery, wheel bearing, crap rims, shock bolt etc etc.

Oh and 625 is nice if you like short rides, for adv... HEHE
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:24 PM   #7346
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I think you completely misunderstood the point of my post...which was simply....that many dealers were not/are not experienced in diagnosing and repairing the new fuel injected bikes. Some of them have become since the introduction but many still are not very good at it.
Carburetted can be spelt both ways in the US, but only one way anywhere else – I was astonished when living over there to discover how few Americans have passports, but if any of you do think of travelling then maybe keep the spelling in mind ...

And Seth we seem now to be in agreement re’ my original point: viz the complexity of the 690 – I explain that the local shop is fortunately one of Australia’s oldest (and largest) KTM dealers, and has been servicing EFI bikes since their introduction (BTW: they also sell and service Ducati, Honda, Suzuki and Kawasaki) – and yet you suggest that even these people may not be up to the task of diagnosing the problem with my 690 – additional expertise may be required – if true, is this really a bike you want to take out into the bush?

On all fronts, time will tell ...

I love riding the bike, there’s no denying that – but I’m not sure that it’s the whole package for ADV riders – perhaps I’ll have no other probs once this issue is resolved ...
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:32 PM   #7347
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I'm thinking about putting a baja designs squadron led on my bike but while I was out and about on the interwebnet looking for info, I stumbles across ktmtwins online sales for said light...

http://www.ktmtwins.com/baja-designs...ht-kit-upgrade

..... Which states that the light is only direct for for 2008 and 2012 headlight masks???

One, I won't buy it from ltm twins cuz it's $30 extra there, and two, I know they aren't a tech site, but can anyone clarify? Is my 2011 headlight different that an 08 and a 12?
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:56 PM   #7348
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It's probably more expensive because the headlight area is larger on the 08/12 model. In between ktm used the small exc headlight/screen along with a lousy small dash compared to the nice large one with tach. Pretty sure ktm twins has the one for the 09-11 for msrp.
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Old 02-19-2013, 07:26 PM   #7349
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now im baffled.... from the KTMTWINS site:

The Baja Designs Squadron 3"x3" LED Light Kit is a radical new upgradet to any KTM EXC, XCW and XCFW models 08-2012 including 2009-2011 690 Enduro R's. Their Squadron motorcycle light is the next generation of LED lighting. The Squadron is designed specifically for aggressive night-time riding by combining amazing distance projection, wide peripheral spread and a smooth light pattern. This light utilizes four CREE XML LEDs - the brightest, most efficient LEDs on the market to give you a blinding 3600 lumens. Not only is the Squadron the brightest LED light on the market, but it also only draws 3.6 amps. If you’re looking for the ultimate in LED lighting for your motorcycle the Baja Designs Squadron is your answer!

*** Only drops into the stock headlight mask on the 2008 and 2012 690 Enduro Rs" ***


from BD's site:

This kit allows for the Baja Designs Squadron 3"x3" LED light to be added to any KTM models 08-2012.



so, worst case, can i order a 08 or 12 mask and fit it directly to the 11?
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:08 PM   #7350
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now im baffled.... from the KTMTWINS site:

The Baja Designs Squadron 3"x3" LED Light Kit is a radical new upgradet to any KTM EXC, XCW and XCFW models 08-2012 including 2009-2011 690 Enduro R's. Their Squadron motorcycle light is the next generation of LED lighting. The Squadron is designed specifically for aggressive night-time riding by combining amazing distance projection, wide peripheral spread and a smooth light pattern. This light utilizes four CREE XML LEDs - the brightest, most efficient LEDs on the market to give you a blinding 3600 lumens. Not only is the Squadron the brightest LED light on the market, but it also only draws 3.6 amps. If you’re looking for the ultimate in LED lighting for your motorcycle the Baja Designs Squadron is your answer!

*** Only drops into the stock headlight mask on the 2008 and 2012 690 Enduro Rs" ***


from BD's site:

This kit allows for the Baja Designs Squadron 3"x3" LED light to be added to any KTM models 08-2012.



so, worst case, can i order a 08 or 12 mask and fit it directly to the 11?
It will fit ALL KTM 2008 THRU 2012 and Now 2013
I just installed this light into my Rally Raid EVO2 faring !!!!!!
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