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Old 02-25-2013, 10:49 PM   #7471
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I am sure the RR prices are crazy. Just curious if it would be possible to emulate the geometry without cutting/pasting the frame, which is technically possible, just lots of work. I am going to see if i can spend some one on one time with a RR and a frame jig to baseline and compare to the 690 E

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Old 02-26-2013, 01:13 AM   #7472
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I am sure the RR prices are crazy. Just curious if it would be possible to emulate the geometry without cutting/pasting the frame, which is technically possible, just lots of work. I am going to see if i can spend some one on one time with a RR and a frame jig to baseline and compare to the 690 E

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I am pretty sure that the 690 RR (as in Rally Replica) frames have the same geometry as the 690 E / R / SMC, with a few welded on brackets for the Rally tanks? It's only the factory frames of Coma and Despres that are unique and different from the RR that was available for purchase, and even from each other.

I wouldn't get the RR triples for $$s, you can get 22mm offset from the stock 08-11 ones and bolt on a stabilizer with an adapter (RR has it cast into the upper clamp).

RR does use a longer swingarm though, so the stability will be hard to replicate.
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Old 02-26-2013, 04:22 AM   #7473
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Exactly the same as my 2012. I was going to try to prise them out but didn't bother in the end. I've got that rust too. I just greased the hell out of everything and put it back together. I'll check every time I change tyres and again near the end of the warranty period. If it's not good then KTM can fix it

There's hardly any grease on the front wheel either.
I guess they changed something with the 2012 model... with my 2011 the spacers usually fall off on their own while changing the tire.
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Old 02-26-2013, 05:58 AM   #7474
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:33 PM   #7475
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How much brighter is that headlight?
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Old 02-26-2013, 01:05 PM   #7476
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How much brighter is that headlight?
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:16 PM   #7477
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Yeah, it's pretty bright. Appearantly it's bright enuf to anger people on the east coast all the way from AZ.

I didn't take any yet, but I was gonna fire up the stock light off an accessory lead and take comparison shots just cuz i geek out like that.
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:27 PM   #7478
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I just bought a used 2012 690 with 800 miles. I know that the forks will have a break in period that will reduce the stiction. I do not want to start changing things until the forks are broken it. About how many road miles will the forks and shock need before they are broken it?
You need to put about 50,000 miles on the stock forks before the internals are damaged enough to have a nice smooth ride.
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:33 PM   #7479
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You need to put about 50,000 miles on the stock forks before the internals are damaged enough to have a nice smooth ride.

That's funny. I was loosely considering putting my 08's forks on the 2012 because I finally got the clickers tuned in a way that I like... after 30k miles.
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:42 PM   #7480
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:16 PM   #7481
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You need to put about 50,000 miles on the stock forks before the internals are damaged enough to have a nice smooth ride.
You're kidding ... Or you're not playing hard enough maybe ??? At 50000 miles, my forks will be enterely destroyed.

Let say there's a big difference after 2500 miles off road. Then it smooths gradually. Retrofit every 10000 miles. Seals every 5000 miles, or every seasons. Match with the annual seals change.

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Old 02-26-2013, 03:28 PM   #7482
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My 2012 forks were much less harsh from brand new than my 2008 was after several thousand miles...
The 2008 & 2012 have the shorter travel, but the 2012 has different compression damper adjustments and internals....
at any rate, it's better than the 2008 ever was...
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:48 PM   #7483
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Exactly the same as my 2012. I was going to try to prise them out but didn't bother in the end. I've got that rust too. I just greased the hell out of everything and put it back together. I'll check every time I change tyres and again near the end of the warranty period. If it's not good then KTM can fix it

There's hardly any grease on the front wheel either.
I'm going to try to do a warranty claim in a few weeks. I'll post up what happens.....
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:26 AM   #7484
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My son TJ rode Ginger & I rode Big Orange over to Vibranator before lunch.

WOW! I can't say enough good about Don over a Virbanator/Ricor.:Pom

We did a bunch of experimenting before & after lunch at his place.

Finished results:
Big Orange now has a set of the regular Vibranators. Took my bars vibes to near nothing. Man I wish I had done this long ago.

Ginger started with the regular units. I rode her around the parking lot and still noticed considerable vibes.

After lunch we went back and changed up to the heavier units. Takes a huge Tap to do the end of the bars. I probably should have cut off some of the bar ends. They now stick out an inch. More clearance for the levers I guess. :p

I'm gonna say the heavy ends reduced my vibes about 70% on the 690.
Couldn't tell if you posted it somewhere, could you tell me which model Vibranators you ended up putting in the 690?

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Old 02-27-2013, 09:45 AM   #7485
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Couldn't tell if you posted it somewhere, could you tell me which model Vibranators you ended up putting in the 690?

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Since we did all the install at his shop, no packaging or paperwork that I can reference for you. Hmmm. I don't see them on the Site. These are the newest coming out of them. I'm thinking we were helping on the R&D. Don & I tapped the bar ends to fit them. I chose NOT to cut off my bars. That puts them out an additional inch from the ends. I did have to do some bending on my Cycra guards to get them to fit correctly. The ones I have are about 6oz each and thread into the bar ends. We did to go to longer end bolts than would have been supplied. That was more for my wishes than his. I did the standard inside the bar units on the 950 & my sons EXC.
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