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Old 03-20-2013, 03:10 PM   #7846
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Old 03-20-2013, 06:36 PM   #7847
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Old 03-20-2013, 06:51 PM   #7848
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I don't think going from 3 to 2 will make the bike too lean. Do you know what maps are in the Vortex? With the Vortex no 15 min idle. I went back and forth with Vortex a couple of times to get the right maps in the right order for my bike with the map switch they offer. All good now. I am surprised the stock ECU is still there. There are two of them. If this ECU is still plugged in then it must be the smaller one. I would remove it. These days they put 5 maps for open airbox and 5 maps for closed airbox. I asked them to do an economy map too. Have not tested it yet.
I may have this wrong in saying that I still have the stock ECU. What I have is the Map-Select switch under the seat. I haven't done anything with it, so maybe the ECU (wherever it is) isn't there? The X10 ECU settings in the instructions say it's for the Enduro-Open airbox, release 4, 28-4-11.Vecu1. It then gives a list of maps. Mine is set at X10 position 1 which says "Power Map1 (Softer initial throttle). Other options are for Traction, torque, power with variIous descriptors. Right now I'd just like to get some better mileage without hurting the motor. Should I dial back the fuel trim settings on all three throttle ranges to 2-2-2? This gives Base minus 7.5%.
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:00 PM   #7849
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Maybe best thing to do is send an e-mail to Richard Muurling at Vortex in Australia with your question and all the details you mentioned here. He may take awhile to reply but he always gives informative answers.

richard@vortexcdi.com

If all the maps are for an open air box then the bike would run rich with the foam air filters.

The last option would be to send the Vortex ECU to Mike Tolle in California to get proper maps for your bike setup. He charged me $100 to do that so not cheap.
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:03 PM   #7850
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Thanks for that. I'll contact Richard first.
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:27 PM   #7851
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Issue with rear break pedal M10 special screw

After noticing a drop in rear brake pressure, when I removed this M10 special screw (KTM#76513057100) it was broken in half and the other half got basically stuck in the round piece ( looks like a nut) that's on the foot rest bracket. I then had it looked by a mechanic and he wasnt able to pull the rest of the broken screw out of it. I looked at the parts list and called KTM and went back and forth and concluded that the round nut like looking piece cannot be ordered separately and the only alternative is to order the entire right side foot rest bracket (KTM#7650303904401S). I have the cleanspeed break pedal if it matters.

Does anyone here offer any feedback on how to solve this. For now I have ordered the entire right side foot rest bracket. Below is the parts diagram from the manual. The part 6 is the special screw, part 4 are the 2 slide bearings and the screw goes into the round looking thing in the footrest bracket (if you follow the dotted line all the way to the footrest bracket).



Below is another view of the footrest bracket labelled as 17.


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Old 03-20-2013, 10:25 PM   #7852
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After noticing a drop in rear brake pressure, when I removed this M10 special screw (KTM#76513057100) it was broken in half and the other half got basically stuck in the round piece ( looks like a nut) that's on the foot rest bracket. I then had it looked by a mechanic and he wasnt able to pull the rest of the broken screw out of it. I looked at the parts list and called KTM and went back and forth and concluded that the round nut like looking piece cannot be ordered separately and the only alternative is to order the entire right side foot rest bracket (KTM#7650303904401S). I have the cleanspeed break pedal if it matters.

Does anyone here offer any feedback on how to solve this. For now I have ordered the entire right side foot rest bracket. Below is the parts diagram from the manual. The part 6 is the special screw, part 4 are the 2 slide bearings and the screw goes into the round looking thing in the footrest bracket (if you follow the dotted line all the way to the footrest bracket).
You do know that the bolt is left hand thread correct?
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Old 03-21-2013, 05:24 AM   #7853
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any positive/negative comments about the cleanspeed brake pedal ?

http://www.cleanspeedeng.com/Brake%20Pedal.htm

cheaper than the RR version and different milling design.
Have it and it's awesome. I've crashed on that side since installing it and it held up beautifully. I'll take this opportunity to remind you of the reverse threaded bolt that holds the lever on.

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Old 03-21-2013, 05:48 AM   #7854
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You do know that the bolt is left hand thread correct?
I had to find that out the hard way... Broke tools and bolts, and had to redrill and retap the footrest bracket to be able to re-use it.
Another disadvantage of the setup (2008-2009) is that when the rear brake pedal joints get's dirty, it will tighten the bolt, making it very difficult to remove later.
The newer rear brake pedal (I think 2010 and on) uses a different system, still left hand thread but with bushings to prevent this problem.
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Old 03-21-2013, 08:50 AM   #7855
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You do know that the bolt is left hand thread correct?
No I didnt until now, but the problem at the moment is to get the broken screw out of the groove on the foot rest bracket. I will try to post some pics soon.
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:07 AM   #7856
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No I didnt until now, but the problem at the moment is to get the broken screw out of the groove on the foot rest bracket. I will try to post some pics soon.

1) If you have not yet done so, use heat to break the bond of the
OEM thread locking compound. 300 degrees F. for 5 minutes should
do nicely. You can use a heat gun or a propane torch or a household
oven, all that matters is to get the thread locking compound molecular
bonds to break free.

2) If you can find some Kroil, use it on the threads of the fastener you want
to remove, after you have applied the heat. There is no penetrating oil
which works as well as Kroil. Ask any old-time aircraft mechanic about
Kroil, it is amazing stuff.


Kroil can be seen here :

http://www.kanolabs.com/



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Old 03-21-2013, 09:09 AM   #7857
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Well then you've got a light bike...sorta. My GS's are both 475. The Ducati a bit less. All more than a KTM 500 or the 690. So your 425 lb Gixxer is a pig or a fairy, depending. It's all relative....my only point.

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Old 03-21-2013, 09:41 AM   #7858
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1) If you have not yet done so, use heat to break the bond of the
OEM thread locking compound. 300 degrees F. for 5 minutes should
do nicely. You can use a heat gun or a propane torch or a household
oven, all that matters is to get the thread locking compound molecular
bonds to break free.

2) If you can find some Kroil, use it on the threads of the fastener you want
to remove, after you have applied the heat. There is no penetrating oil
which works as well as Kroil. Ask any old-time aircraft mechanic about
Kroil, it is amazing stuff.


Kroil can be seen here :

http://www.kanolabs.com/



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Thanks for the feedback. Just ordered Kroil. Hopefully this should do it.
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:51 AM   #7859
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any positive/negative comments about the cleanspeed brake pedal ?

http://www.cleanspeedeng.com/Brake%20Pedal.htm

cheaper than the RR version and different milling design.
I installed a clean speed lever. It's a nice piece of work and is very stout. Nothing bad to say about it and it's cheaper than the RR. I think they're out of AZ. Shipping to me was only like $6.

http://my2wheels.com/forum/showpost....&postcount=148
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:58 AM   #7860
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Have it and it's awesome. I've crashed on that side since installing it and it held up beautifully. I'll take this opportunity to remind you of the reverse threaded bolt that holds the lever on.

Jeff

yep cheers.. i read the destructions
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I installed a clean speed lever. It's a nice piece of work and is very stout. Nothing bad to say about it and it's cheaper than the RR. I think they're out of AZ. Shipping to me was only like $6.

http://my2wheels.com/forum/showpost....&postcount=148

ordered the lever 3 days ago, it arrived at my friends in NY this morning and I should have it in my grubby hands in zurich tomorrow morning....
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