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Old 03-19-2013, 02:29 PM   #7861
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...Includes a custom Eibach spring to handle my lard arse.

What do you weigh and what spring rate did you get?

I'm ~230 and each of the shops that I spoke with recommended a 90nm/mm but I found it too soft... I bought a 95nm/mm (I believe this is a ~550lb/in 2.5 I.D. x 10" as used in truck/ buggy applications) and barely noticed a difference and had nearly identical sag numbers. I've been considering buying yet another spring but taking a bigger leap to something in the 105-110 nm/mm range.

I've already had the shock revalved and added a lot to the compression side and I'm not sure if running an even heavier stack is the answer or if running a heavier spring will have similar effects in increasing bottoming resistance.

The funny thing is that the .52's in my CC forks seem just right and I'm pretty sure that is the same rate that was in the stock OC forks.
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Old 03-19-2013, 02:39 PM   #7862
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What do you weigh and what spring rate did you get?

I'm ~230 and each of the shops that I spoke with recommended a 90nm/mm but I found it too soft... I bought a 95nm/mm (I believe this is a ~550lb/in 2.5 I.D. x 10" as used in truck/ buggy applications) and barely noticed a difference and had nearly identical sag numbers. I've been considering buying yet another spring but taking a bigger leap to something in the 105-110 nm/mm range.

I've already had the shock revalved and added a lot to the compression side and I'm not sure if running an even heavier stack is the answer or if running a heavier spring will have similar effects in increasing bottoming resistance.

The funny thing is that the .52's in my CC forks seem just right and I'm pretty sure that is the same rate that was in the stock OC forks.
My son is installing the shock for me tonight. I weigh in at about 300 fully geared up. Head of the Chunky Boy club. I believe they did 106nm spring rate. I too am running the stock .52 in the front for now.
I have .48 in my 525 forks. They feel great. I run a 75-91 spring in the rear of my 525.
This is my first experience with this suspension builder. He has a great rep locally. Generally seems to believe in letting the spring do much of the work and use the shim stack for tuning. My forks I copied the setup from my 525 into this bike. Nice and plush. I won't know til this weekend how the front & rear with cooperate with each other.
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Old 03-19-2013, 03:41 PM   #7863
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You will be fine to ride as-is.

The stock exhaust is quiet, and does give off some serious heat. I have 1,500 miles on my 2012 Enduro R with stock exhaust so far and I am still getting to know the bike.

Put a few miles on the bike first, then build up a budget for the following:

$450 Wings exhaust
$100 Upper & Lower Tank Bolts from Rally Raid
$700 Scotts SubMount Steering Stabilizer with Rubber Mount
$150 Seat Concepts seat cover

I've read for months now on the 500EXC and the 690R. I waffle back and forth between the two. Realistically, the 690 makes more sense for me. Waiting for the snow to melt so I can go touch one in person. I'm a big guy at 6' 2", 230 so the weight isn't an issue. I just want to sit on one and make sure it "feels" right. Nice to know I can ride it stock and be happy too!

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Old 03-19-2013, 04:49 PM   #7864
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Upper Tank Bolt removal

Those that have removed their broken upper tank bolts, what is the easiest way to do this?

Seems like it will be easiest if I disconnect the opposite side and pivot the tank out of the way in order to drill a hole in the broken bolt to allow the use of an easy out bolt extractor.

I have put this off for far too long. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Old 03-19-2013, 06:09 PM   #7865
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I've read for months now on the 500EXC and the 690R. I waffle back and forth between the two. Realistically, the 690 makes more sense for me. Waiting for the snow to melt so I can go touch one in person. I'm a big guy at 6' 2", 230 so the weight isn't an issue. I just want to sit on one and make sure it "feels" right. Nice to know I can ride it stock and be happy too!
I went through roughly the same process to arrive at the 690. What settled it for me was the maintenance intervals and engine reliability. Anytime you have what is essentially a race bike with lights, and a small oil capacity, you need to consider how often you want to mess with it versus just ride it. So if you need to do much transportation riding...putting non-dirt miles on it, the 690 is probably the best. The diff between the two is about 50 lbs which sounds like a lot unless you are accustomed to most street bikes where 475 lbs is light. Just my 2 cents.
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:32 PM   #7866
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I went through roughly the same process to arrive at the 690. What settled it for me was the maintenance intervals and engine reliability. Anytime you have what is essentially a race bike with lights, and a small oil capacity, you need to consider how often you want to mess with it versus just ride it. So if you need to do much transportation riding...putting non-dirt miles on it, the 690 is probably the best. The diff between the two is about 50 lbs which sounds like a lot unless you are accustomed to most street bikes where 475 lbs is light. Just my 2 cents.
475 is light????? My Gixxer is porky at 425 LBS.
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:40 PM   #7867
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475 is light????? My Gixxer is porky at 425 LBS.
Well then you've got a light bike...sorta. My GS's are both 475. The Ducati a bit less. All more than a KTM 500 or the 690. So your 425 lb Gixxer is a pig or a fairy, depending. It's all relative....my only point.
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Old 03-20-2013, 01:10 AM   #7868
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Well then you've got a light bike...sorta. My GS's are both 475. The Ducati a bit less. All more than a KTM 500 or the 690. So your 425 lb Gixxer is a pig or a fairy, depending. It's all relative....my only point.
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My bikes have been two v-strom 650's at 480lbs ish, a Moto Guzzi Griso 8v at 540lbs or so, a 950 at 520lbs with bars, racks, skidplate etc., and now the 690 which feels like a toy. I'm going to do naughty things with it off-road when the front suspension is sorted out.
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Old 03-20-2013, 02:17 AM   #7869
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Those that have removed their broken upper tank bolts, what is the easiest way to do this?

Seems like it will be easiest if I disconnect the opposite side and pivot the tank out of the way in order to drill a hole in the broken bolt to allow the use of an easy out bolt extractor.

I have put this off for far too long. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
If I've got the RR bottom tank bolt I shouldn't need to replace the stock top ones if they seem OK, or are the RR top bolts a must have?
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Old 03-20-2013, 04:34 AM   #7870
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from reading thru many posts here a lot of people buy the RR product and a lot replace the original cheese bolts for those with a better material spec as originals are crap.

try a 8.8 spec bolt instead - same for the lower bolt.
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:05 AM   #7871
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err, 8.8 is what i call coca cola can material :-)

The RR top bolts are sure stronger, but the side panels dont fit as they should with it.. I replaced them not knowing, but if i did know, i'd have stuck with stock.
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:17 AM   #7872
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sure there are harder bolts available but they are more brittle.
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:21 AM   #7873
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err, 8.8 is what i call coca cola can material :-)

The RR top bolts are sure stronger, but the side panels dont fit as they should with it.. I replaced them not knowing, but if i did know, i'd have stuck with stock.
Does anyone else sell bolts that do fit better with the side panels?
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:25 AM   #7874
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Well then you've got a light bike...sorta. My GS's are both 475. The Ducati a bit less. All more than a KTM 500 or the 690. So your 425 lb Gixxer is a pig or a fairy, depending. It's all relative....my only point.
Your point that 475 for a STREET bike was light. That ain't the case.
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:31 AM   #7875
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Your point that 475 for a STREET bike was light. That ain't the case.
OK you win junior. Now go joust at another windmill.
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