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Old 05-06-2013, 09:26 PM   #8521
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I think the clearance on those pelicans is comparable to any other hard bags you might buy...
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:40 PM   #8522
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Just finished the break-in oil change on my 2012.

Anyone else run into this? I ordered the filters from the KTM dealer (I live in Newfoundland with no local dealer...I have to take a 16 hour ferry to get the the nearest dealer). The box for the short filter said 75038046100, but the number stamped on the filter itself was 75038046101. The number on the short filter I removed said 75038046100.
16 hours to the nearest dealer

I noticed the same thing while doing an oil change last year. The number on the box was 75038046100 but the short filter had 75038046101 stamped. On the oil filter service kit that I bought a few months later the short filter had the correct part number (75038046100).

The filters are exactly the same so no need to worry. Maybe they just printed the first batch with wrong number.
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Old 05-07-2013, 01:38 AM   #8523
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what do you guys think about this rack? we fabbed this up custom made of 1/2 round bar.


Looks good! I used pelicans as well but smaller ones than yours. They are perfect size for over night trips. For longer tours (1-2weeks) I ditch the small top box for a Klim duffle bag.



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Old 05-07-2013, 03:06 AM   #8524
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1. Motor/starter motor to frame, braided line
2. Battery to frame. (-) on battery
3. Regulator rectifier to frame. (2x green wires).

What I did was run a wire from regulator rectifier to battery - terminal. that way you know you will always have a good ground for charging.
You can either take the green wires and splice them to a #6 wire (i think that is what i used) and run it to the battery, or put a ring terminal on the #6 (both ends) and just make a jumper from the battery (-) where the RR connects to the frame. I did not worry about the frame to motor ground.
Another failure point is where the coil is bolted to frame - especially if you have the Rally Raid tanks and have the bracket to relocate it as this adds another earth failure point (the blind nuts). Had real problems with this and got tired of pulling tanks and doing roadside repairs. Ran a dedicated earth from battery terminal and have not had a problem in a year since.
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Old 05-07-2013, 04:28 AM   #8525
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Ronin: You mentioned #6 wire (U.S. size, I assume?) for the ground connection back to the battery from the ground on the coil. Did you really mean #6---I had forgotten just how big that is! No problem, I'm hooking it up tonight once I find the copper connectors I'm looking for, but #6 is really large---looks larger than the power wire to the starter, even!

Thanks for the suggestions on this, everyone.


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Old 05-07-2013, 05:06 AM   #8526
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16 hours to the nearest dealer
I know. We are pretty isolated here in Newfoundland. There are two ferries to leave the island (one is 16 hours and only runs in the summer and the other is 5 hours, but you have to drive 12 hours from St. John's to get to the ferry launch.) Of course you could take an 1.5 hour plane ride to Halifax, but not sure if I can fit the 690 in the overhead compartment.

We had two KTM dealers up until last year, but KTM Canada decided to pull both of the dealerships. I guess they weren't selling enough . (The entire island is only 500,000 people, so I am not sure what their expectation is )

Many of us KTM owners are pretty pissed that we have been left to fend on our own with no dealer/service support.
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Old 05-07-2013, 06:06 AM   #8527
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I know. We are pretty isolated here in Newfoundland. There are two ferries to leave the island (one is 16 hours and only runs in the summer and the other is 5 hours, but you have to drive 12 hours from St. John's to get to the ferry launch.) Of course you could take an 1.5 hour plane ride to Halifax, but not sure if I can fit the 690 in the overhead compartment.

We had two KTM dealers up until last year, but KTM Canada decided to pull both of the dealerships. I guess they weren't selling enough . (The entire island is only 500,000 people, so I am not sure what their expectation is )

Many of us KTM owners are pretty pissed that we have been left to fend on our own with no dealer/service support.

Hi-Flo makes the KTM filters.. they are the same just not orange in color. You should just order a batch of them to have on hand for the future. an order of 5 pairs would set you up for quite a few miles of riding. The hi-Flo filter is usually half the price of the KTM branded one.

Another price comparison...those twin foam air filters we like to run:

KTM retail..orange color with KTM logo: $80
Generic Green foam with relevant logo: $50 to $60
parts Unlimited with black foam and no logo: whole sale about $6.
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Old 05-07-2013, 06:27 AM   #8528
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The TPS values on the 11 are different from all other years. Your numbers are the same as mine +/- .1-2.

I havent been able to confirm the numbers anywhere. The 2010 manual doesn't have the proper settings for the 2011. I've asked KTM for the numbers but even my mechanic couldn't tell me what they should be. He said his scan/adjust tool just tells him when he has it right.

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I'm having some problems with stalling with my bike.
Until now, I've checked
- All the fuel system from the pump to the injector
- Tried with another voltage regulator

But the problem continues.

Now I've conected the Tune ECU to see any problems.

Are these Throttle settings ok? I think I read somewhere of values of 0,5 or 0,7V... If they are not ok, how can I adjust them?
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Old 05-07-2013, 06:43 AM   #8529
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OH what a difference !!!!

Original owner farkled up my 690 with a 15/50 setup. While great for road use, it left wide open gaps that made off road riding rather cumbersome. A simple drop to a 14 was the key ingredient - really turned this bike around. Pulls really hard throughout, power wheelies like it should (I needed this for fun factor), and you can actually ride off road in 1st and 2nd, little buzzy at +60 but tolerable

Another great addition was the handle bar mounted Leo Vince timing retard switch.

My club was burning in some very tight single track for an upcoming event, trails that I should have used my 520 or 250 for - but used the 690 for testing purposes, just to see if larger CC bikes could tackle it. Plus I wanted to test out the new gearing combo. Mode 3 proved to be challenge for serious off road, even stalled a few times on some really difficult areas. Mode 1 was my saving grace, cuts the power ( for less than optimum grip areas), but really turned the 690 into a tractor. Never stalled once after that, powered up very difficult uphills, turned it into a great mountain goat. Only problem was, you have to cut the engine to change modes = minor

I was losing faith with this bike, almost thinking the 500 EXC route instead, but a few simple changes made me a believer. Think I'll keep it for a little while
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:53 AM   #8530
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Hi-Flo makes the KTM filters.. they are the same just not orange in color. You should just order a batch of them to have on hand for the future. an order of 5 pairs would set you up for quite a few miles of riding. The hi-Flo filter is usually half the price of the KTM branded one.

Another price comparison...those twin foam air filters we like to run:

KTM retail..orange color with KTM logo: $80
Generic Green foam with relevant logo: $50 to $60
parts Unlimited with black foam and no logo: whole sale about $6.
Thanks for the heads Up!

I can't find the Hi Flo set for the 2012 anywhere. Hi Flo website shows it in the catalog, but I can't find it for sale yet (I think it is a new release product as the 2012 short filter changed???).
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Old 05-07-2013, 09:59 AM   #8531
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Solid bar or tube?

I also used Pelicans, although mine are 1550s.

I have a KTM luggage rack, and I chose the Happy Trails mounting hardware. Mine are flush with the top of the seat, which makes packing additional gear on top easy. Yours look a bit low to me, and I worry that you might have ground-clearance issues.

i used solid bar, alot simpler to work with, and much stronger. I debated how high to mount the bags, but this seems to work fine so far. but only time will tell... i can always pull them off and with a few minutes with a drill move the angle of them, or raise them up
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Old 05-07-2013, 02:11 PM   #8532
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Another great addition was the handle bar mounted Leo Vince timing retard switch.
Hey wiswoodsguy, got any pics or more info on this. Sounds like a very useful mod.
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Old 05-08-2013, 01:21 PM   #8533
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the dreaded 690 tire saga

I know this has been beat to death in this thread, so here goes (Again)

I got 2000 miles out of my stock MT21's - pretty good most of you will say. They were great off road and decent on the road - just that they wore down quite quick, as most of you already know.

My question is< what size tire can I put on the 690 rim other than the stock ?? Ive been finding better deals on some 120's, but didnt know how it would effect the characteristics of the bike (handling, speedo, etc)

Looking at tires is about as much fun as shopping for window treatments with the wife. They all claim that they are great, but in the real world most of them suck for the purpose that you truly need them for.

A lot of you say to just buy cheaper tires, wear them out, replace - instead of buying a hefty tagged tire. Not sure which route I want to go.

So far my Choices are:
MT21 (again)
Scorpion
ED04 (120 size)
AC10 (120)
TC60 (120)

Any input ???
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Old 05-08-2013, 01:49 PM   #8534
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I know this has been beat to death in this thread, so here goes (Again)

I got 2000 miles out of my stock MT21's - pretty good most of you will say. They were great off road and decent on the road - just that they wore down quite quick, as most of you already know.

My question is< what size tire can I put on the 690 rim other than the stock ?? Ive been finding better deals on some 120's, but didnt know how it would effect the characteristics of the bike (handling, speedo, etc)

Looking at tires is about as much fun as shopping for window treatments with the wife. They all claim that they are great, but in the real world most of them suck for the purpose that you truly need them for.

A lot of you say to just buy cheaper tires, wear them out, replace - instead of buying a hefty tagged tire. Not sure which route I want to go.

So far my Choices are:
MT21 (again)
Scorpion
ED04 (120 size)
AC10 (120)
TC60 (120)

Any input ???
You haven't got the Dunlop 606 listed, and that's probably the best comparison to the MT21 - slightly longer lasting (IMO).

The ED04 and AC10 are both enduro tyres, whereas the MT21 and D606 are street legal knobbies - you'll get bugger-all mileage from an enduro tyre on a 690, especially if doing some transport legs on bitumen or hard gravel - they're also a bit skittish at speed.

The Pirelli 'Scorpion' is a whole group of tyres, from the dual-sport Scorpion Trail to enduro tyres like the Scorpion Extra-X - characteristics and mileage as expected for each type - the Scorpion Rally is well suited to the 690 - very similar to a TKC80, but cheaper.

I'm currently experimenting with a Pirelli MT43 trials tyre - had the pressure too high initially (20psi) and some excessive wear on central knobs - now running 11psi, and much better - excellent traction on all surfaces - better than anything else I've tried on loose steep rocky hills - nice ride characteristics, even at speed (ie hard charging long dirt roads) - wear will be the only issue - about 1,000km so far ...

PS: I'm not sure what a TC60 is ...
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Old 05-08-2013, 01:51 PM   #8535
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I know this has been beat to death in this thread, so here goes (Again)

I got 2000 miles out of my stock MT21's - pretty good most of you will say. They were great off road and decent on the road - just that they wore down quite quick, as most of you already know.

My question is< what size tire can I put on the 690 rim other than the stock ?? Ive been finding better deals on some 120's, but didnt know how it would effect the characteristics of the bike (handling, speedo, etc)

Looking at tires is about as much fun as shopping for window treatments with the wife. They all claim that they are great, but in the real world most of them suck for the purpose that you truly need them for.

A lot of you say to just buy cheaper tires, wear them out, replace - instead of buying a hefty tagged tire. Not sure which route I want to go.

So far my Choices are:
MT21 (again)
Scorpion
ED04 (120 size)
AC10 (120)
TC60 (120)

Any input ???
I REALLY like the Moto Z tractionator tires. DOT approved (if that matters) and available in 140 width read. I got 3700 miles out of the rear while doing the TAT last year. Decent price on them, too. YMMV

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