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Old 05-13-2013, 11:33 AM   #8686
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Luckily it was a nice day outside as I currently have no indoor space to work in. Hardest part about this job is keeping the chickens out of the tools

I just realized-that chicken probably knows more than I do now about tearing down bike motors. Sad. Really, sad.
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Old 05-13-2013, 11:45 AM   #8687
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Seth,
If the 690 needs a bit more pep, just give it a goose

Having been attacked by one of the geese and bitten by the damn thing a few dozen times I can say I understand where the phrase comes from.
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Old 05-13-2013, 11:49 AM   #8688
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My engine has about 10,000 miles on it and most of that has been trail riding or some form of racing. The engine has spent a fair amount of time tapped out in 6th gear. The rocker shafts looked clean and unmarred as did the rollers. I will look closer and can take some photos but I didn't see anything concerning when I pulled them out.
No need for photo's for my benefit, thanks for the reply.
I was just wondering what I might find when I tear mine apart.
I realize maintenance and use play a large part in how engines wear,
and each engine will undoubtedly wear differently.
Thanks again for your insite.
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Old 05-13-2013, 11:55 AM   #8689
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No need for photo's for my benefit, thanks for the reply.
I was just wondering what I might find when I tear mine apart.
I realize maintenance and use play a large part in how engines wear,
and each engine will undoubtedly wear differently.
Thanks again for your insite.
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I think my headgasket failure was due to a failed water pump seal. I took the bike to Australia and raced it in the Safari Rally. I had a big crash on the 3rd day and could no longer ride but the bike was ok. Gave it to a friend to finish on as his stator had failed on his 530. On the last day he said the bike overheated and shut off. he filled the radiator with his camelback water and went another 40k before the temp spiked and the coolant light came on. ...the bike stalled and would not restart and he didnt want to kill it. That night when it came in on the recovery truck it started right up and ran fine.

Back in the USA I found the water pump seals were bad and replaced them. Flushed all the coolant from the inside of the engine and put in fresh oil. The bike ran well, came up to temp, had good power, and no smoke. Took the bike to a ride in Canada and made it about 40 or 50 miles before it started to smoke a bit in a slow woods section. Bike started consuming vast quantities of coolant. had to fill it with hose water at a house and made it to service where I was done. My theory is that the water pump seals failed in Australia and the bike got hot damaging the head gasket in the process. I replaced the seals and the head gasket could no longer seal the pressure and it then failed. I still need to have the head checked for flatness.
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:30 PM   #8690
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Former 690 owner with a dumb question. What magic did KTM do in the later years to extend the service intervals? I had an 08 and I noticed the newer ones have longer intervals. Did they change anything or just juke the stats?
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:32 PM   #8691
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:40 PM   #8692
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Former 690 owner with a dumb question. What magic did KTM do in the later years to extend the service intervals? I had an 08 and I noticed the newer ones have longer intervals. Did they change anything or just juke the stats?

They edited the owners manual
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:50 PM   #8693
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:51 PM   #8694
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What fairing is that Lexey?
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Old 05-13-2013, 01:11 PM   #8695
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Old 05-13-2013, 02:01 PM   #8696
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What map and throttle setting are you using?
The only map setting I am aware of is the Map-Select switch and I have mine set at 3. This after a re-programming by the dealer.
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Old 05-13-2013, 02:10 PM   #8697
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Two things KTM corporate doesn't do that I really wish they would and think it would be helpful over here is:
1. Admit when there is a problem/mistake.
2. Tell us when/how they've addressed it.

Obviously if you never do #1 it makes no sense to do #2. And of course I understand them not being willing to admit there is a problem until after they've come up with a solution. Someone else on this thread said it was typical Austrian/Engineer mentality to never admit to making a mistake but to work like heck behind the scenes to fix it but even then not to mention it.
As a bonafide BeemerDork I can attest to the fact that BMW does the same thing. I've been lusting over the new water-head GS but know better than to get a first year and be their beta-tester. Quite often it takes 6 years for them to incorporate fixes into production....witness the R1100S. And they've been trying to make their rear drives bulletproof forever and still haven't gotten it right. Oh well. That's the friction between making it more car-like complex and making it better.
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Old 05-13-2013, 02:33 PM   #8698
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Having been attacked by one of the geese and bitten by the damn thing a few dozen times I can say I understand where the phrase comes from.

Seth,
Yep they can bite....but there is a different meaning as well:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=goose
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Old 05-13-2013, 03:00 PM   #8699
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Yep they can bite....but there is a different meaning as well:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=goose

I am well aware of the other meaning
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Old 05-13-2013, 03:30 PM   #8700
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Pulled the engine out of the bike yesterday and pulled off the cylinder head ...

The boys at Mattighofen in clean white coats would not enjoy seeing that hammer ...

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