ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Bikes > Thumpers
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 05-22-2013, 11:33 AM   #8806
StevenD
Hmmmm, dirt!
 
StevenD's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Location: Holland, Amserdammed
Oddometer: 1,148
or just put the plug on the loom. all the signal inputs are the same. your just meight need to put a tach wire extra.
^^ for the cluster.

Like those tanks a lot!!
__________________
999 LC8 Rat-Rally custom - 500 EXC - XR666R '85

StevenD screwed with this post 05-22-2013 at 11:38 AM
StevenD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2013, 12:43 PM   #8807
Superdude
Banned
 
Joined: May 2013
Location: Inland of the left coast, north of the 49th.
Oddometer: 24
Question sub-frame

Has anyone attempted to utilize auxiliary front tanks only and eliminate the rear tank? I have rear racks and Rally Raid upper and lower tank bolts but the wife has taken a shine to "bike camping" lately (2up) and I am a bit nervous about the loads we are packing. I was thinking that maybe a proper rear sub-frame might be possible...???
I realize that the fuel pump is in the tank, but would an in-line high pressure pump be possible out of the front tanks?
Thanks.
Superdude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2013, 01:05 PM   #8808
SKINNY
Studly Adventurer
 
SKINNY's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Location: West Texas
Oddometer: 653
Quote:
Originally Posted by Superdude View Post
Has anyone attempted to utilize auxiliary front tanks only and eliminate the rear tank? I have rear racks and Rally Raid upper and lower tank bolts but the wife has taken a shine to "bike camping" lately (2up) and I am a bit nervous about the loads we are packing. I was thinking that maybe a proper rear sub-frame might be possible...???
I realize that the fuel pump is in the tank, but would an in-line high pressure pump be possible out of the front tanks?
Thanks.
You could probably come up with an external pump that would do the job, but the stock tank is also the mounting surface for the fuse block, battery, seat latch, and numerous other stuff...
Making a subframe to replace all that and designing it to be structurally sufficient is well beyond most folks' skill level...
SKINNY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2013, 01:15 PM   #8809
rickypanecatyl
SE Asia adventure tours
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Oddometer: 1,159
Nice fairing yellow pig... what lights did you go with? The standard 90mm Hella Halogen's? 1 or 2 HID's...
rickypanecatyl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2013, 01:19 PM   #8810
Superdude
Banned
 
Joined: May 2013
Location: Inland of the left coast, north of the 49th.
Oddometer: 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by SKINNY View Post
You could probably come up with an external pump that would do the job, but the stock tank is also the mounting surface for the fuse block, battery, seat latch, and numerous other stuff...
Making a subframe to replace all that and designing it to be structurally sufficient is well beyond most folks' skill level...
True, but what an opportunity for Rally Raid!

To be honest, the stock tank may be tougher than we think. The boss and I were out on some old logging roads looking for a "lost lake" on the weekend and with the flat light from the gray sky, I managed to pound us into more than a couple of swales cut across the road. I think it did her more damage than the bike. My kidneys were not faring too well wither with the shots she kept providing.
Superdude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2013, 01:32 PM   #8811
Hoots
Beastly Adventurer
 
Hoots's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2011
Location: Gundaroo NSW OZ
Oddometer: 1,576
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yellow Pig View Post

I just finished installing the new Lynx Fairing on my bike. So far I'm pretty pleased. Installation is very simple, the unit provides nice wind protection, but does not get in the way when trail riding and puts out some nice light.

I think I'll probably go down this track also.
Hoots is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2013, 01:33 PM   #8812
SKINNY
Studly Adventurer
 
SKINNY's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Location: West Texas
Oddometer: 653
Quote:
Originally Posted by Superdude View Post
True, but what an opportunity for Rally Raid!

To be honest, the stock tank may be tougher than we think. The boss and I were out on some old logging roads looking for a "lost lake" on the weekend and with the flat light from the gray sky, I managed to pound us into more than a couple of swales cut across the road. I think it did her more damage than the bike. My kidneys were not faring too well wither with the shots she kept providing.
The theory so far is that since KTM sells the 690 with passenger foot pegs, the subframe/tank must be design to take the load...
My personal experience is that I broke the lower tank bolts with substantially less load than a passenger would be...
The tank may very well be OK, but the mounting points are suspect...
even with the upgraded upper and lower bolts...
SKINNY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2013, 01:45 PM   #8813
Yellow Pig
Allergic to Asphalt!
 
Yellow Pig's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Location: Kalifornia
Oddometer: 7,597
Quote:
Originally Posted by v8toilet View Post
How do you feel it compares to the race light you had on your SE? My 690 has TT race light with Boatmans conversion and I'm trying to decide which way to. I like the race light output and the clean air. Above 70 though it gets hard to hang on...
Have not had a chance to do a proper night ride yet. I'll let you know how it works as soon as possible.

I went w/ the 2 HID option in the 90mm Hella housing, but am looking at possibly installing a flush mount Squadron LED in the position of the HID high beam to save weight, room and have an instant on light. Britannia composites uses Future vision HID components.

I'll keep the HID low because I like having the street legal cut off.

I was really tempted to use the HWDB dual LED set up I have on my 530, but did not want to mess w/ all the wiring and the non legal low beam.

__________________
So Many Idiots, So Few Comets!!!!!!!!!
Yellow Pig is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2013, 01:54 PM   #8814
Superdude
Banned
 
Joined: May 2013
Location: Inland of the left coast, north of the 49th.
Oddometer: 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by SKINNY View Post
The theory so far is that since KTM sells the 690 with passenger foot pegs, the subframe/tank must be design to take the load...
My personal experience is that I broke the lower tank bolts with substantially less load than a passenger would be...
The tank may very well be OK, but the mounting points are suspect...
even with the upgraded upper and lower bolts...
No disagreements there although the KTM (Touratech) racks add a whole pile of rigidity to the back end. I installed the kit while waiting for the bolts to arrive and it took the slop right out of the tank bolts. With the dual down tubes, it acts like an exoskeleton (to quote an earlier inmate's words) and is probably the best thing I have installed yet to help me sleep at night. Ugly as sin, but what the hell.
Admittedly, after 40 years of boring but predictable Japanese quality, the 2012 690 has me alternating between "best bike ever!" and "Holy Crap, how much would a chopper charge by the hour to sling this thing out of the bush?!" It has not missed a beat yet after only 3000 km's, but every ride starts with a little bit of trepidation....
Superdude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2013, 02:13 PM   #8815
v8toilet
Nothing to see here.
 
v8toilet's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Location: Northwest U.S.
Oddometer: 1,737
Quote:
Originally Posted by Superdude View Post
No disagreements there although the KTM (Touratech) racks add a whole pile of rigidity to the back end. I installed the kit while waiting for the bolts to arrive and it took the slop right out of the tank bolts. With the dual down tubes, it acts like an exoskeleton (to quote an earlier inmate's words) and is probably the best thing I have installed yet to help me sleep at night. Ugly as sin, but what the hell.
Admittedly, after 40 years of boring but predictable Japanese quality, the 2012 690 has me alternating between "best bike ever!" and "Holy Crap, how much would a chopper charge by the hour to sling this thing out of the bush?!" It has not missed a beat yet after only 3000 km's, but every ride starts with a little bit of trepidation....
Chopper evac $800 USD - $2500 USD per hour. Why sling it when you can just toss it in the back of most of the mid-size helicopters out there? My old soon be mine again 690 only almost left someone stranded once (minor electrical problem that was resolved with some investigation) in 20,000 miles and it's a first year model.

v8toilet screwed with this post 05-22-2013 at 02:35 PM
v8toilet is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2013, 02:19 PM   #8816
The Letter J
lost in the 690 mega
 
The Letter J's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Location: Santa Maria, CA
Oddometer: 1,044
WTB: stock rear suspension links

I know that plenty of people here have installed lowering links on their 690's, do any of you still have your original link (in like new condition) that you would be willing to get rid of?

I just replaced my shock bearings (that had been on back order for 2 months!) which got rid of most of my rear suspension slop, but the dogbone bearings also have excessive freeplay. I'm poor these days so I was hoping to find a new/used takeoff for a fair price. Any year E/R/SMC should work.

Please PM me if you have one!
__________________
I can ride my bike with no handlebars, no handlebars, no handlebars - Jamie Laurie
The Letter J is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2013, 02:20 PM   #8817
TheMuffinMan
Forest Ranger Magnet
 
TheMuffinMan's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Location: Denver, USA
Oddometer: 6,243
Quote:
Originally Posted by Superdude View Post
True, but what an opportunity for Rally Raid!

To be honest, the stock tank may be tougher than we think. The boss and I were out on some old logging roads looking for a "lost lake" on the weekend and with the flat light from the gray sky, I managed to pound us into more than a couple of swales cut across the road. I think it did her more damage than the bike. My kidneys were not faring too well wither with the shots she kept providing.
When off-roading I've been jumping the 690 and going through whoops with nearly a full tank of gas as well as having the wolfman top and side racks on it (perhaps that helps ). I have the RR upgraded upper and lower bolts and everything has held together so far. I do worry about it but honestly I've decided to beat the shit out of it and if I find it's limits then I'll know them.

This weekend will be camping gear and off-roading which will be a real test. I haven't heard of the tank failing besides the bolts and I haven't heard of any of the RR bolts failing.
__________________
"To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield."
"You don't cross the mountains, they let you through."
KTM 525 XC-W // KTM 950 Adventure
TheMuffinMan is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2013, 06:18 PM   #8818
Hoots
Beastly Adventurer
 
Hoots's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2011
Location: Gundaroo NSW OZ
Oddometer: 1,576
MT43 Trials Tyre on 690

I put an MT43 trials tyre (DOT approved) on the 690 as a bit of an experiment ...

At about 400km, it didn't look as though it would get me home from that ride - central knobs flaking, and a general trackside thumbs down ...

At that point I was running a little over 20psi (we had some section on tar, as well as a fair bit of hard gravel), and I think this was a mistake ...

Unlike a knobby, the tyre really needs to be run on all surfaces at about 10psi - this lets the whole breadth of the tyre stay on the ground - not just the central knobs ...

Having taken the plunge and lowered the pressure to about 10psi I noticed a huge improvement in both handling and knob wear - the pics below show it now at about 2,000km - really not bad considering the weight and HP of the 690, and the speeds it travels at ...

And I'd have to say that it gives the best feeling allround of any rear tyre I've tried - traction on rocks is sensational - can be squirmy on the hard gravel, but way more predictable than the D606 I've been running to date ....

Anyway, an interesting result given the generally poor prognosis at about 400km - this tyre should get me to about 3,000km, which is what I'd generally get out of a D606 - at that point I'll try another one, and this time run it from new at 10psi ...

Hoots is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2013, 06:28 PM   #8819
Bigbugberg
Meatbucket Supreme
 
Bigbugberg's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Location: 1313 Mockingbird Lane
Oddometer: 334
I've yet to put the trials tire on my 690 but I swear by them on my 400. Here in Az there are plenty of rocks and the tire at low psi just motors you up anything. Very impressive.
Bigbugberg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2013, 08:56 PM   #8820
motoged
Studly Adventurer
 
motoged's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Location: Kamloops, BC
Oddometer: 908
I have used the MT43 on my 450 EXC for past three seasons for gnarly single track and some in-between dirt/gravel roads. I don't imagine using a knobby on that bike again.

Love it for that application, and not surprised that it has made you a happy boy on the 690 .

A reassuring note....
__________________
Ged Schwartz
Kamloops , BC


Baja '05 , Baja 06/07 , Baja 08/09 , BC Alpine Single Track




motoged is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 11:16 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2015