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Old 05-21-2013, 03:20 PM   #8806
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I managed to over tighten the screw holding the rear plastic in the tank (right side), not sure how to remove the screw since its in the tank and spinning.



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Old 05-21-2013, 03:30 PM   #8807
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I managed to over tighten the screw holding the rear plastic in the tank (right side), not sure how to remove the screw since its in the tank and spinning.



On the 950 Adventures when this happens the fix is to put the bolt in a drill, tighten the chuck, thread it in to the insert and spin it fast get everything hot/melted and then let it cool and often times it will setup and you might get more life out of it. There are threads in "Orange Crush" on this subject. However, the plastics might be from a different material on the 690 though and this method may cause irreparable damage, big YMMV. You can use this method to remove the insert though (just spin it up and pull while spinning) and then figure out what the plastic is and if there is a suitable adhesive to bond the insert back in. Whatever you do don't push the insert into the tank while spinning it and cause a leak if you go this route.

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Old 05-21-2013, 03:55 PM   #8808
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Old 05-21-2013, 03:56 PM   #8809
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I would lightly pry out on the rear plastics while turning the well nut to slowly remove it. Then either try an expanding rubber well nut or grease the threads on the original nut insert the bolt clean the nut with alcohol (leaving grease on the end where the bolt is)and epoxy it back to the tank. Just be careful when reinstalling the bolt.
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Old 05-21-2013, 06:19 PM   #8810
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I only have 15k miles on my 08 but I like the Metzler Enduro 3 Sahara you will give up a bit on the trial but if you plan on covering some asphalt the work and I get about 3000 niles before I change out.
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Old 05-21-2013, 06:41 PM   #8811
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The 500 EXC keeps tempting me!
Feeling the same temptation. Love the 690 but am wondering how much better the 500 would be off road, lighter better suspension....hum, still the 690 is a hell of a lot of fun and the compromise list is pretty short.
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Old 05-21-2013, 06:54 PM   #8812
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Feeling the same temptation. Love the 690 but am wondering how much better the 500 would be off road, lighter better suspension....hum, still the 690 is a hell of a lot of fun and the compromise list is pretty short.
No comparison offroad, if that's your focus and you can put up with higher maintenance ...
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Old 05-21-2013, 07:31 PM   #8813
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Feeling the same temptation. Love the 690 but am wondering how much better the 500 would be off road, lighter better suspension....hum, still the 690 is a hell of a lot of fun and the compromise list is pretty short.
What type of riding will determine the answer. The 500exc is plated but really doesn't run down the highway very well. It has a much better turn radius and is a much better dirt bike. For real dualsport applications, the 690 is head and shoulders above it. I rode my 690e from Yuma through the Copper Canyon region and back, no way the 500 would do that trip, 2300 miles of great times.
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Old 05-21-2013, 07:58 PM   #8814
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What type of riding will determine the answer. The 500exc is plated but really doesn't run down the highway very well. It has a much better turn radius and is a much better dirt bike. For real dualsport applications, the 690 is head and shoulders above it. I rode my 690e from Yuma through the Copper Canyon region and back, no way the 500 would do that trip, 2300 miles of great times.
That is why I am tempted by the 500 but will keep the 690.
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:27 PM   #8815
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2006 950 Adventure Black

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Thanks, Tom.

$31 by the time it gets to my dealer!
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Old 05-21-2013, 10:06 PM   #8816
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Thanks, Tom.

$31 by the time it gets to my dealer!
I think I have one in my tool box
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Old 05-22-2013, 04:24 AM   #8817
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What type of riding will determine the answer. The 500exc is plated but really doesn't run down the highway very well. It has a much better turn radius and is a much better dirt bike. For real dualsport applications, the 690 is head and shoulders above it. I rode my 690e from Yuma through the Copper Canyon region and back, no way the 500 would do that trip, 2300 miles of great times.
Bought the 690 when I started to feel bad taking the GSA so far off the beaten track, started to feel bad for beating on the GSA, although it never complained and feel bad also referring to me. Physically, muscling the 575lbs GSA over rough stuff wears you out . I went with the 690 because of the lower maintenance intervals and better road manners but never tried the 500. Now the 690 is a weekday commuter for the short ride into work, usually take the torn up train tracks and it is the afterwork and weekend off road toy and explorer.

Tempted by the lure of even more off road capability and lighter weight and better suspension of the 500. Not sure I could add another bike to the garage without Mrs CdnX noticing. . I'll have to get a test ride on one and see, it would be hard too give up the 690, love this bike, and it has all sorts of allure because of its DS capabilities.

I still have the GSA for long treks, 2 up and occasional offload use.

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Old 05-22-2013, 05:21 AM   #8818
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Just the Wings for now. What size Heidenau (140/80 Tube)? You're in the rainy South East I see. How is this combo on wet roads. Would you commute 40 miles one way with that 606? Good to hear from you Dirty. Appreciate your posts.
Any knob on the front might make for some excitement in the rain, but the 606 on the front of the 640A or the 690 so far has been fine in the wet.

I don't think any of us have the gonads to ride like a footpeg scraping hooligan in the wet though, so tire choice is really a moot point.

Running a 606, a 908, or the Heidenau K60 all gripped well enough that the 640A running with the FCR carb never had the power to actually break the back end of the bike loose as I goosed the throttle coming out of tight paved twisties on the Pig Trail they have up in NW Arkansas. The 690 on the other hand WILL break the ass-end of the bike loose under hard acceleration coming out the tight twisties even with the K60 on the rear. If that don't make you pucker up and tear a hole in the naugahide I don't know what will...

I do like the 606 on the front for the sort of riding we do here in Louisiana and up in AR where we ride a few times each year. I usually keep the front at 22psi. This is the likely culprit for the reason the knobs fold back and develop a sawtooth-like wear pattern caused by front tire braking forces. Some folks would flip the tire to reverse the wear pattern but I'm too lazy to do so.

I do like the 140 Heidenau on the back of both bikes.

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Old 05-22-2013, 08:50 AM   #8819
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Wow! I finally uploaded the 2012 evo-1 map into the bike (evo-1 airbox and an FMF Q4 slip-on atm). What a difference! Much better power over the whole rev range and the throttle smoothed out in first gear on/off. I can't wait to hit the trials with it after these changes (and the throttle response wasn't bad to begin with).



As for all the debate on bikes I have a 690e coming from a 950 adv. The 690 will be my do everything bike from commuting to pretty aggressive trail riding. I've ridden my uncle's TE511 for a bit on the trail and while the 690 isn't as nimble or light it does just fine. I would get (and have) a stiffer rear spring before riding trails, jumping over water bars, and whoops. RRaid tank bolt upgrades are a must for this kind of riding.

It's easy to ride 100 miles to the trails, do trails all day, and then ride home. Not having to fuss with a trailer is nice. I am planning on even longer (500-1000 mile) trips on the bike this summer with camping gear. It's not the best street bike by any means but it's good enough for me; and nearly all of the interesting roads are non-interstates, 65-70mph which the bike easily handles and the windblast isn't too bad.

No one bike does it all perfectly though. If I won the lottery I'd probably have a 450 dirt bike for close super gnarly trails, the 690 for camping trips, and a road bike of some kind (probably a MG Griso 8v ).
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:13 AM   #8820
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Wow! I finally uploaded the 2012 evo-1 map into the bike (evo-1 airbox and an FMF Q4 slip-on atm). What a difference! Much better power over the whole rev range and the throttle smoothed out in first gear on/off. I can't wait to hit the trials with it after these changes (and the throttle response wasn't bad to begin with).
Let us know if your fuel mileage goes down...
I'm getting around 50-55 mpg with the stock map,stock air box w/foam filter and a Wings slip-on...
I'm not willing to sacrifice mileage for a few extra HP....
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