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Old 05-24-2013, 09:07 AM   #8866
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Well, there was nothing in the 2008 owners manual about adjustable offset either.
If it makes you feel any better I see nothing about it in the 2008 factory repair manual either



Here is a good overview that a fellow advrite wrote:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=517497
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Old 05-24-2013, 10:12 AM   #8867
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Well mine is a RB730 roadbook plate with 2 ICOs. But all of their roadbook plates have mounting holes for toggle switches. Thanks for the suggestion though.
Yeah, but some have them in a 2x2 configuration. Mine are 4x1 (i.e. all in-line). Other suggestion would be to drop John an email at RR and ask him what he uses/recommends.
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Old 05-24-2013, 10:30 AM   #8868
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Final Drive Ration 13/45

Final Drive Ratio...anyone running 13/45?
Going for a ride which will demand more creeping than cruising.
I've looked at http://www.gearingcommander.com
I think I can live with the drop from 73 to 63 in 6th gear @ 5250 rpm.

More shifting for sure but, I want to reduce the amount of "riding the clutch" when picking my way thru large rocks and ruts.

KTM has some steel sprockets stocked locally for about 29 bucks.

Never changed a sprocket, it doesn't look like brain surgery. I remember reading somewhere, someone, said dropping to a 13 was too much. I dont want to screw with the rear sprocket...45 is good back there.

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Old 05-24-2013, 10:36 AM   #8869
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Yeah, but some have them in a 2x2 configuration. Mine are 4x1 (i.e. all in-line). Other suggestion would be to drop John an email at RR and ask him what he uses/recommends.
Mine is a 2x2 configuration. But yesterday I was finally able to find one thats fits perfectly well on all the 4 holes.
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Old 05-24-2013, 10:54 AM   #8870
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Final Drive Ratio...anyone running 13/45?
Going for a ride which will demand more creeping than cruising.
I've looked at http://www.gearingcommander.com
I think I can live with the drop from 73 to 63 in 6th gear @ 5250 rpm.

More shifting for sure but, I want to reduce the amount of "riding the clutch" when picking my way thru large rocks and ruts.

KTM has some steel sprockets stocked locally for about 29 bucks.

Never changed a sprocket, it doesn't look like brain surgery. I remember reading somewhere, someone, said dropping to a 13 was too much. I dont want to screw with the rear sprocket...45 is good back there.

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The fewer teeth on a sprocket the more force each individual teeth sees. You would be better off running a 14 up front or a 15 and going to a larger rear sprocket.
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Old 05-24-2013, 10:59 AM   #8871
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Order direct from Rally Raid. After shipping you'll save a ton. I saved 60$ on the upper and lower tank bolts and the sprocket protection thing' and they ship quicker then the posted times on KTM Twins site.

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Old 05-24-2013, 11:08 AM   #8872
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Final Drive Ratio...anyone running 13/45?
Going for a ride which will demand more creeping than cruising.
I've looked at http://www.gearingcommander.com
I think I can live with the drop from 73 to 63 in 6th gear @ 5250 rpm.

More shifting for sure but, I want to reduce the amount of "riding the clutch" when picking my way thru large rocks and ruts.

KTM has some steel sprockets stocked locally for about 29 bucks.

Never changed a sprocket, it doesn't look like brain surgery. I remember reading somewhere, someone, said dropping to a 13 was too much. I dont want to screw with the rear sprocket...45 is good back there.

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If you are worried about 13 tooth countershaft, you could try 14/48 rather than 13/45. This is only slightly higher (3.43 rather than 3.46). If your chain has some miles on it, it is good to change both sprockets and chain at the same time.

Here are a couple of links I hacked together to see the effects of gearing changes.

14/48 gearing

13/45 gearing
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:22 AM   #8873
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So it looks like my 690 SMC will be no more........ I'll be back on 2 wheels soon...
Sorry to hear, good that your are doing well though.

Sounds like it was time for a new one anyway.

These 690s have been around long enough, I would guess that if you have the funds, it would be easy to part out to inmates who need a couple pieces. I recall someone who recently was looking for a tank....
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:33 AM   #8874
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Final Drive Ratio...anyone running 13/45?
Going for a ride which will demand more creeping than cruising.
I've looked at http://www.gearingcommander.com
I think I can live with the drop from 73 to 63 in 6th gear @ 5250 rpm.

More shifting for sure but, I want to reduce the amount of "riding the clutch" when picking my way thru large rocks and ruts.

KTM has some steel sprockets stocked locally for about 29 bucks.

Never changed a sprocket, it doesn't look like brain surgery. I remember reading somewhere, someone, said dropping to a 13 was too much. I dont want to screw with the rear sprocket...45 is good back there.

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I tried that when I first bought the 690, I had an old 13t from an exc (same splines, no shoulder though so a spacer would have to be used unless you can find a 13t lc4 sprocket.) The chain was grinding away on top of the slider and then back downwards just to get to the 13t sprocket... in other words, it will 99% sure rip off the chain slider the very first time you apply power and immediately start cutting into the top of the swingarm (especially true with a small 45 tooth in the rear.) after seeing how bad it was just on the stand, I took it off without ever even riding it. Running 14/48 now and may go to 14/50.

As others have said, go bigger on the back, 14t is as small as I would trust up front.

edit: With the 14 up front and 48 out back, I needed to replace my chain slider and rear guide at ~7500 miles
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:34 AM   #8875
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Thanks for the thoughts guys.
Think I got about 15k on the clock. Sprockets and chain all still top notch. Keep them well looked after!
I'll have to think about the 14/48 idea.
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:48 AM   #8876
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Only just realised that Oberon make a replacement clutch slave cylinder, anyone tried one with a 16t front sprocket? I ask as I've heard that the Sigutech part from Germany can't be used with a 16t or larger.
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Old 05-24-2013, 12:22 PM   #8877
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Only just realised that Oberon make a replacement clutch slave cylinder, anyone tried one with a 16t front sprocket? I ask as I've heard that the Sigutech part from Germany can't be used with a 16t or larger.
Fits just fine. 16T and Oberon Slave. I might have a lightly used one for sale soon, see post above...
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Old 05-24-2013, 12:33 PM   #8878
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So it looks like my 690 SMC will be no more. A lady pulled a U-turn in front of me a week ago, and I woke up in the hospital. Still not 100% on what happened... Or even 50%. Had all my gear on, of course, so that's why I'm still here.

The bike faired okay, but it tweaked, scratched, and bent enough things that the insurance company will total it. I don't think I want to purchase it back to ride (I was closing in on 18,000 mi), but I might purchase it back to part out, and wanted to give any of you guys first dibs. However, this all hinges on IF I buy it back.

The only parts that are absolutely trashed is the lower triple, headlight, and speedometer. Everything else faired well. Radiator mounts are tweaked, but it has no leaks, and works well.

SMC forks are in great shape, wheels are too (front has a very small ding, but it rides straight with no issues up to 110mph). Front is running Michelin Pilot Power with plenty of tread left, rear is wearing a Pilot Power 2CT with only about 1500 miles on it.

Fuel tank is in great shape, all threaded holes are still solid... I use anti-sieze on every bolt that comes out often.

I have a Renazco seat with repaired front mount. I riveted on a piece of 1/8" aluminum slotted for the bolt, so the seat doesn't move AT ALL anymore.

DID X-Ring Gold chain, front 16T sprocket, and rear 44T sprocket with only a couple thousand miles on 'em.

Euro tail and LED brake light with Integrated Turn Signals. I've wired it up so it's plug and play to the stock harness.

I have a few of the standard upgrades... Oberon Clutch Slave, Pivot Pegs (left is scratched), KTM Twins Billet Fuel Cap, ASV Levers, etc...

Frame is straight, but the main reason they "totaled" the bike is the steering stop is cracked under the neck. It's probably a 2 hour welding job, but of course they would only pay to replace it.

Engine has just under 18,000 mi on it, but it runs fantastic. I replaced both rockers within a few thousand miles, and have an RR Manual Cam Chain Tensioner.

Feel free to PM me with anything you guys would want, and I'll keep you all updated as to my decision. Trying to get a feel if it would be worth it or not. Thanks guys, I'll be back on 2 wheels soon...
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Old 05-24-2013, 12:41 PM   #8879
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Sorry to hear, good that your are doing well though.

Sounds like it was time for a new one anyway.

These 690s have been around long enough, I would guess that if you have the funds, it would be easy to part out to inmates who need a couple pieces. I recall someone who recently was looking for a tank....
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Old 05-24-2013, 01:10 PM   #8880
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