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Old 06-07-2013, 10:15 AM   #9151
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Okay, what is the trick to getting my new Seat Concepts seat to fit? I removed the standard front big-headed screw and replaced it with the 'taller' one from Seat Concepts. Still won't go forward far enough for the new seat to sit all the way down, let alone engage the rear release. Seems like it just isn't going far enough forward. Has anyone had to carve out the forward slot on the front end of the seat a bit to help it go forward enough?

Slowly getting this thing in 'adventure' shape. Evo 2, damper/risers, better GPS, chain oiler, and an end-to-end fuel hose/filter revamp to go. I've been kinda doing the less expensive stuff first, not that a new seat, Wings exhaust, and a double hand full of KTM/Rally Raid filters, nuts, bolts, and doo-dads are exactly cheap!


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I had a problem with a 2013 690 that wouldn't slide far enough foward, and they had to make an offset rear pin for it. Still used the stock front bolt though.
Don't know what year yours is, but I would just call them. They are very helpful, and at least in my case, did everything needed to resolve the problem. Good people.
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Old 06-07-2013, 10:35 AM   #9152
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Hmm can't find the first one anywhere, the second one shows that part as for a Duke, which has the exhaust run a complete different way so I can't imagine it would fit. Anyway, went ahead and ordered a FMF Q4.
Try this.

You might have to buy from a European supplier maybe?
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Old 06-07-2013, 10:43 AM   #9153
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sdd04: Thanks for the info...makes sense. I've been carving the front slot back little by little but no luck with a solution yet. If I don't lock down the front and slide the seat well forward, the sides fit nicely on the rubber stand-offs and the rear locks down correctly. The front goes almost all the way to the key/lock (but isn't locked down, of course). Like on yours it sounds like, if I lock the front down, there is no way to get the standoffs in the right position to 'sit down' on the frame, nor of course, is the rear forward enough for the rear latch to engage.

Arrrrggghhh!


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Old 06-07-2013, 11:22 AM   #9154
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How does your tensioner work? Is it spring tension or do you need to manually adjust the tension then secure it with a lock nut? Do you install it and forget about it or do you need to check it every now and then and adjust it? I put one on a Hayabusa years ago and it was the latter design.
I check mine every couple thousand km.

Loosen the nut, start the bike, tighten by hand as much as you can.. no wrench.. turn off the bike.. lock nut. takes 30 seconds.
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Old 06-07-2013, 11:35 AM   #9155
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Okay, what is the trick to getting my new Seat Concepts seat to fit? I removed the standard front big-headed screw and replaced it with the 'taller' one from Seat Concepts.
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Is this the complete seat that includes a new pan? Do you have any pictures of the underside? I've yet to see the SC seat pan and I'm considering buying their complete 2012/13 seat for my 09 since it is taller and narrower at the center than my current SC seat.
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Old 06-07-2013, 11:38 AM   #9156
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I check mine every couple thousand km.

Loosen the nut, start the bike, tighten by hand as much as you can.. no wrench.. turn off the bike.. lock nut. takes 30 seconds.
Did the engine run any quieter after installation? I know that most of the engine noise is coming from the clutch basket, but anything that quiets down the box of rocks is a good thing!
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Old 06-07-2013, 01:06 PM   #9157
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Noah: Just to be sure I understand, you have the manual tensioner, right?

Seat Concepts: Yes, my seat came with a new pan and all. I'll get a picture of it later tonight. I finally got it installed by slowly trimming back on the front slot and in the end, but putting serious upward pressure on the front of the seat while I worked it forward. It's latched right now and I want to leave it that way for awhile. Hopefully it will take a useful 'set'. I'll pull it for pix in a few hours.


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Old 06-07-2013, 01:42 PM   #9158
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Did the engine run any quieter after installation? I know that most of the engine noise is coming from the clutch basket, but anything that quiets down the box of rocks is a good thing!
Yes... but we also did an oil change and valve adjustment at the same time. So it was probably a combination. You will notice it most during startup before the automatic tensioner has a chance to build pressure.

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Noah: Just to be sure I understand, you have the manual tensioner, right?
Yes. From Rally Raid. Knowing that it won't fail is worth every penny. I like to be able to check these things.
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Old 06-07-2013, 02:33 PM   #9159
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Question help

OK I am in some need of help with the tune ecu shit.
I have loaded the program (tune ecu) have all the proper files, loaded the OBD cable drivers (I think the right ones) tried it on a windows vista and 7 operating system. Just says can't connect to the bike. Not sure WTF is wrong and about to scream. The bike will now idle correct and flames out, surges etc...
What am I doing wrong please help?
Also I have read all the ADV posts on it and still not sure.
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Old 06-07-2013, 03:27 PM   #9160
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OK I am in some need of help with the tune ecu shit.
I have loaded the program (tune ecu) have all the proper files, loaded the OBD cable drivers (I think the right ones) tried it on a windows vista and 7 operating system. Just says can't connect to the bike. Not sure WTF is wrong and about to scream. The bike will now idle correct and flames out, surges etc...
What am I doing wrong please help?
Also I have read all the ADV posts on it and still not sure.
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Sounds like a USB problem. Do you actually see the drivers are installed and working?
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Old 06-07-2013, 03:33 PM   #9161
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Need a broken OEM clutch lever bushing

I need the bushing from a OEM clutch lever (any year except 2013). I just purchased levers from RR and realized that my aftermarket Motion Pro clutch lever's bushing is too big to fit. Please PM me.Will pay for shipping.
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Old 06-07-2013, 04:44 PM   #9162
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sounds like a usb problem. Do you actually see the drivers are installed and working?
i loaded the ones from the tune ecu site and also others off the net, is there a right one someone can point me to?
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:11 PM   #9163
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Here are the side-by-side stock 2012 seat and the Seat Concepts seat I just got in and installed.





The Seat Concepts pan is not noticeably more robust than stock; they are not identical, but the greatest difference is in the size of the rubber 'riders' for the frame, not the mass of the seat pan. The second picture makes it look more robust but that is an artifact of the angle the picture was taken on. The SC seat is a bit thicker and a bit wider at the rear and doesn't have quite the same bevel at the front as the stocker. The SC seat is heavier but I didn't have any reliable means of weighing either of them so I'm guessing at least 50% heavier. The SC seat is on the right in all the pictures except for the third one. And lastly, the SC seat is visibly narrower about 2/3 of the way from the rear to the front. I assume that is so you can stand on the pegs with no interference.

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Old 06-07-2013, 07:19 PM   #9164
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SC pan

Thank you for that, the last picture is very helpful! It looks like they used the 08-11 pan, with the only significant difference being that the 12+ uses 2 more bumpers up front.
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:39 PM   #9165
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I wasn't able to secure my new 2013 690 enduro r, so i'm going to sell the parts I've already ordered.

1. Wings exhaust - $400 shipped
2. Upper tank bolt - $55 shipped
3. Lower Tank bolt - $35 shipped
4. Rally Raid Billet brake and clutch lever set - $160 shipped
5. Rally Raid - Billet Sprocket Guard - $110 shipped
6. Thermostat switch - $50 shipped
7. Side stand removal switch - $25.00

Also posting in the for sale thread
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