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Old 06-26-2013, 02:22 PM   #9436
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Thanks guys! 690 it is :)
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Old 06-26-2013, 02:51 PM   #9437
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What was the fit problem? I put my Moose pegs on my '12 690 and only had to grind the inside radii of the mounts a little to allow them to pivot enough.

Maybe?

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I don't remember exactly. i will have to look at them again to see where I relieved. Something with the radius interfering with the pedal.
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Old 06-26-2013, 08:47 PM   #9438
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Question trouble

Has anyone had trouble with the auto decompression?

Over an 8hr ride my bike got harder and harder to start. The starter wouldnt turn the engine over well, sometimes not at all. The starter would make sound, more like it was trying to turn the engine but couldnt. I would rock the bike while in gear to move the piston and it would eventually start. Near the end it wouldn't turn it over at all. I charged the battery and still have the problem, even while boosting the bike it cant turn the engine over. It is now acting like a dead battery, even while boosting.

I pulled the starter and it spins and sounds fine. tested with the bike connections to confirm they are working. Not sure how to test it under load? The solenoid is working.

Any ideas?

PS. I have a 690 for sale, great price! Has trouble starting though.
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Old 06-26-2013, 08:53 PM   #9439
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Sounds like valve clearances to me.
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Old 06-26-2013, 09:21 PM   #9440
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Why not just pull the valve cover and have a look? It should only take 10-15 minutes to find out.
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Old 06-26-2013, 10:06 PM   #9441
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Same problem on my old 2009

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Has anyone had trouble with the auto decompression?

Over an 8hr ride my bike got harder and harder to start. The starter wouldnt turn the engine over well, sometimes not at all. The starter would make sound, more like it was trying to turn the engine but couldnt. I would rock the bike while in gear to move the piston and it would eventually start. Near the end it wouldn't turn it over at all. I charged the battery and still have the problem, even while boosting the bike it cant turn the engine over. It is now acting like a dead battery, even while boosting.

I pulled the starter and it spins and sounds fine. tested with the bike connections to confirm they are working. Not sure how to test it under load? The solenoid is working.

Any ideas?

PS. I have a 690 for sale, great price! Has trouble starting though.
I had same problem on my old 2009 just before my exhaust rocker bearing failed. The loose bearing causes valves to go out spec and then the decompression system will not work.
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Old 06-27-2013, 03:58 AM   #9442
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I had same problem on my old 2009 just before my exhaust rocker bearing failed. The loose bearing causes valves to go out spec and then the decompression system will not work.
I've also had the exhaust rocker bearing collapse on my 2012 with 30000kms. It had no compression braking and when I turned it off after a 700km day it couldn't turn itself over. Once fixed, the shims didn't need adjusting (but were technically out of spec when the bearing was loose)
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Old 06-27-2013, 05:17 AM   #9443
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Bearing it is!

I just came in from finding a failing exhaust bearing. Better then a new starter!

Thanks for the help.
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Old 06-27-2013, 05:47 AM   #9444
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The exhaust bearing sounds like something we should be inspecting?
I wonder what to look for.

Just wait for the symptoms to appear?
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Old 06-27-2013, 05:51 AM   #9445
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Plastic air breather thingy.

So the plastic triangle that goes in the frame.. it cracked on my bike. I epoxied it but it only lasted a month. This is my perminent solution.



$3 worth of parts in a bazaar in Almaty Kazakh. You have to cut the hoses some.
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Old 06-27-2013, 05:58 AM   #9446
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So the plastic triangle that goes in the frame.. it cracked on my bike. I epoxied it but it only lasted a month. This is my perminent solution.



$3 worth of parts in a bazaar in Almaty Kazakh. You have to cut the hoses some.
Nice on the road fix.
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Old 06-27-2013, 06:00 AM   #9447
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The exhaust bearing sounds like something we should be inspecting?
I wonder what to look for.

Just wait for the symptoms to appear?
Pull the rocker arm out and check the bearing for play.
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:13 AM   #9448
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I need an exhaust rocker arm!

So there is a nation wide back order on the updated exhaust rocker arm. I cant wait until july 31st. Really hoping someone has one of the old versions sitting around as a spare. I could replace it with the upgraded unit once available. Or pay tons of cold hard cash for it.

Long shot i know
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:21 AM   #9449
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Lower footpegs and bar risers it is. I guess I'll still be keeping my eye on the 690. Thanks for the info!

Out of curiosity - are there any bikes in this weight class that would suit people of my size?

At 6'6", I can't imagine there is any bike that will "fit" you.

I'm 6'4", I have a taller seat, lowered pegs, and raised bars. I love my 690!

Riding compartments of modern motorcycles are not made for people our size. I don't suspect that the 690 is much better, or any worse in that regard.
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:46 AM   #9450
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So there is a nation wide back order on the updated exhaust rocker arm. I cant wait until july 31st. Really hoping someone has one of the old versions sitting around as a spare. I could replace it with the upgraded unit once available. Or pay tons of cold hard cash for it.

Long shot i know
Now you got me thinking I should order one just to have it around for future needs.
I wonder if the upgrade is worth putting in as preventive (at next valve check) and have the original around for a spare.
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