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Old 07-11-2013, 10:56 AM   #9646
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Is this a good place to order a Mosfet rectifier from and which one do I need?

http://www.roadstercycle.com/

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That is the main source actually I got my kit there for my KTM990S.
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:56 PM   #9647
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Hoots, what model year is yours? Hard to believe there's that much vibe variation among the same model bikes/engines. That would indicate horrible quality control at the KTM factory.
Hey Cliff! My 2nd of 3 engines on my '08 only lasted a few thousand miles. I was later told that was because with the 654cc there was an "A" piston and cylender as well as a "B" version. (Think 653 and 655cc's). They said "someone" put an A cylender in a B bore and it wore faster!

FWIW I found the vibes thru the bars very different versus the old LC4 but none the less they really bothered my wrists. The old LC4 had a slower, larger more aggressive paint shaker type vibe that was very noticeable. My 690 has high speed, very small vibrations I would liken to a dentist's drill.

I've got the Flex bars with vibranotor inserts as well as pillow top grips and it does make a big difference. I'm sure tires are a huge difference... pre flexx bars all day in the dirt didn't bother my wrists but 5 hours of freeway sure did.
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:58 PM   #9648
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In front, or behind? Strangley in front seems to be better for my seating position. Shame about the total lack of fixing hooks / crannies anywhere?



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Old 07-11-2013, 01:00 PM   #9649
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Hey Cliff! My 2nd of 3 engines on my '08 only lasted a few thousand miles. I was later told that was because with the 654cc there was an "A" piston and cylender as well as a "B" version. (Think 653 and 655cc's). They said "someone" put an A cylender in a B bore and it wore faster!

FWIW I found the vibes thru the bars very different versus the old LC4 but none the less they really bothered my wrists. The old LC4 had a slower, larger more aggressive paint shaker type vibe that was very noticeable. My 690 has high speed, very small vibrations I would liken to a dentist's drill.

I've got the Flex bars with vibranotor inserts as well as pillow top grips and it does make a big difference. I'm sure tires are a huge difference... pre flexx bars all day in the dirt didn't bother my wrists but 5 hours of freeway sure did.
Hey Ricky, good to hear from you. Thanks for the feedback.

Looks like I will be joining the 690 club shortly, accepted a deal!
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Old 07-11-2013, 01:08 PM   #9650
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Is this a good place to order a Mosfet rectifier from and which one do I need?
I believe you just need the latest type which is FH020AA according to this page: http://roadstercycle.com/Shindengen%...or%20about.htm

you just need to choose one of his three 'kits'
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Old 07-11-2013, 01:09 PM   #9651
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The local bookstore had a American dirt bike magazine in stock today... Woo Hoo!

It has an article on the 690 enduro (Dirt Bike July 2013 pg 61/62). Are these typos or is the '13 690 that different:

"The 690's seat height was lowered by 2 inches, giving the WP suspension 9.8 inches of travel."

I was thinking my '11 R was 1" taller than my '08 E... is the '13 that much shorter?

"To be honest, we wouldn't ride the 690 in whoops no matter how much suspension it had. It's a massibe bike. KTM says it weighs about the same as a Honda XR650L, but it feels much heavier. It's not a trail bike. Still, it handles much better off-road than a Suzuki DR650, a Kawasaki KLR..."

I was thinking the XR was about 350 wet and ours about 330. 20 lbs is a chunk and I could never imagine KTM ceding they were about the same... they stick to their 305 lb "ready to race" weight! Is the '13 690 heavier? Did the XRL get lighter? Did Dirt Bike Magazine print a typo? Inquiring minds want to know!
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Old 07-11-2013, 01:22 PM   #9652
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Some non 690 news but possibly someone is interested...

At a KTM exhibition in Bandung, Indonesia last week they had the new 390 Duke. They said it'd be released in August and would have an Enduro September.

Back in Malaysia I thought the prices were interesting though I could only compare Dukes. Obviously these are massively expensive for US customers but think percentages:

The 125 is $6,000 USD
The 200 is $7,000 USD
The 390 will be $9,000 USD
The 690 is $20,000 USD

If that is any indicator the 390 enduro could be much cheaper than the 690 everywhere. Also the 200's have been quite reliable... much more than the 690. I'm thinking (hoping) they fall into a "new category" of motorcycles.
The 125/200/390 are built mostly for the Asian crowd where as the 690 for Westerners. Typically Asians have less money and are riding their bikes for necesity... can't afford a car! They put 10X as many miles on and if there were FI issues they couldn't get to work. (If the 200's had as many FI problems as the 690 Stefan Pierer would probably wake up one morning to a flash and a cry of "God is Great" in Arabic and we'd all be speculating what would happen to KTM, Husqvarna and Husaberg!)
Westerners usually have a car, possibly multiple bikes and of course demand higher performance out of their machines.

The "new category" I'm hoping the Bajaj KTM is creating is the reliability of Asian bikes with the excitement of Western bikes. The Duke 200 has been a bit of both.
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Old 07-11-2013, 01:24 PM   #9653
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Hey Ricky, good to hear from you. Thanks for the feedback.

Looks like I will be joining the 690 club shortly, accepted a deal!
You're welcome to take mine out for a comparison test. It's in a barn in monroe. I'll let my sister know if you're interested....
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Old 07-11-2013, 01:38 PM   #9654
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Is the '13 690 heavier? Did the XRL get lighter? Did Dirt Bike Magazine print a typo? Inquiring minds want to know!
One of the inmates took his 12 to an accurate
scale, and got these numbers, full of liquids

Total weight = 335 lbs
Weight on front wheel = 151 lbs
Weight on front wheel = 184 lbs

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...postcount=1598

13 should be identical numbers
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Old 07-11-2013, 01:48 PM   #9655
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One of the inmates took his 12 to an accurate
scale, and got these numbers, full of liquids

Total weight = 335 lbs
Weight on front wheel = 151 lbs
Weight on front wheel = 184 lbs

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...postcount=1598

13 should be identical numbers
That sounds about right to me, although higher than the official specs I think.
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:21 PM   #9656
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S (If the 200's had as many FI problems as the 690 Stefan Pierer would probably wake up one morning to a flash and a cry of "God is Great" in Arabic and we'd all be speculating what would happen to KTM, Husqvarna and Husaberg!)
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:30 PM   #9657
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You're welcome to take mine out for a comparison test. It's in a barn in monroe. I'll let my sister know if you're interested....
Something about this sentence seems wrong...
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:34 PM   #9658
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"To be honest, we wouldn't ride the 690 in whoops no matter how much suspension it had. It's a massibe bike. KTM says it weighs about the same as a Honda XR650L, but it feels much heavier...
My 2012 feels lighter than my 2001 XR650R ever did. And it was far lighter than the XL
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:55 PM   #9659
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Some non 690 news but possibly someone is interested...

At a KTM exhibition in Bandung, Indonesia last week they had the new 390 Duke. They said it'd be released in August and would have an Enduro September.

Back in Malaysia I thought the prices were interesting though I could only compare Dukes. Obviously these are massively expensive for US customers but think percentages:

The 125 is $6,000 USD
The 200 is $7,000 USD
The 390 will be $9,000 USD
The 690 is $20,000 USD

If that is any indicator the 390 enduro could be much cheaper than the 690 everywhere. Also the 200's have been quite reliable... much more than the 690. I'm thinking (hoping) they fall into a "new category" of motorcycles.
The 125/200/390 are built mostly for the Asian crowd where as the 690 for Westerners. Typically Asians have less money and are riding their bikes for necesity... can't afford a car! They put 10X as many miles on and if there were FI issues they couldn't get to work. (If the 200's had as many FI problems as the 690 Stefan Pierer would probably wake up one morning to a flash and a cry of "God is Great" in Arabic and we'd all be speculating what would happen to KTM, Husqvarna and Husaberg!)
Westerners usually have a car, possibly multiple bikes and of course demand higher performance out of their machines.

The "new category" I'm hoping the Bajaj KTM is creating is the reliability of Asian bikes with the excitement of Western bikes. The Duke 200 has been a bit of both.
If they can bring a 390 E in under 280 lbs I'd be all over it.
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:56 PM   #9660
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My 2012 feels lighter than my 2001 XR650R ever did. And it was far lighter than the XL
I was thinking the same thing, my XRR's felt way heavier then my 690 even though they were actually lighter. Mainly because the damn things were so top heavy.
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