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Old 09-14-2010, 11:43 PM   #1
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XR600 for commuting-I'm a heavy guy

Guys I am in the market for a new XR. There are a few XR600's in my area that are for sale and was wondering if it would be good for commuting. I have a 29 mile daily commute to school and I weigh 235lbs and was wondering if the XR600 would cut it. I am also looking for XR650's as well but people want to much in my area and there are multiple xr600's around here that are fairly cheap.
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Old 09-15-2010, 12:14 AM   #2
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The 600 will pull you along no problems. It's got more power than the 650L and it's lighter and cheaper. I'm 205 and it's good for me especially since they're relatively tall as well....lots of leg room. You may want to consider putting heavier springs in but if it's just a basic get around bike then probably ok. Might need to throw on a smaller rear sprocket to gear it up for the commute so allow for that in the budget. They're a great bike.
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Old 09-15-2010, 12:18 AM   #3
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The 600 will pull you along no problems. It's got more power than the 650L and it's lighter and cheaper. I'm 205 and it's good for me especially since they're relatively tall as well....lots of leg room. You may want to consider putting heavier springs in but if it's just a basic get around bike then probably ok. Might need to throw on a smaller rear sprocket to gear it up for the commute so allow for that in the budget. They're a great bike.
Really, more power than the 650L? I use to own a 2006 650L and it was a great bike. How does the 600R compare to the 650R? What do you think is a reasonably price for a 600R in god condition

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Old 09-15-2010, 12:43 AM   #4
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600 probably has a bit less weight and will have a bit more engine noise due to being aircooled. The engines both have the same cams, so the 600 probably revs a tiny bit harder/faster than the 650. No idea other than that, sorry.

If it helps on pricing, I'm about to buy a '97 XR600 with 16,000km on the clocks. All the original plastics are there and the electrics all work. It has a few months rego and two new tyres, plus an Acerbis 22L tank. It does however need a chain/sprockets sometime soon and cosmetically is a bit average. Paying $2,500 for it.

Where abouts are you? There are a few bikes for sale in the Aussie Flea Market section, including an XR600 thats recently had a 630 kit fitted and looks pretty darn clean.

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Old 09-15-2010, 01:09 AM   #5
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600 probably has a bit less weight and will have a bit more engine noise due to being aircooled. The engines both have the same cams, so the 600 probably revs a tiny bit harder/faster than the 650. No idea other than that, sorry.

If it helps on pricing, I'm about to buy a '97 XR600 with 16,000km on the clocks. All the original plastics are there and the electrics all work. It has a few months rego and two new tyres, plus an Acerbis 22L tank. It does however need a chain/sprockets sometime soon and cosmetically is a bit average. Paying $2,500 for it.

Where abouts are you? There are a few bikes for sale in the Aussie Flea Market section, including an XR600 thats recently had a 630 kit fitted and looks pretty darn clean.

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I'm in the utah, US. Where I live, they have 2003-2005 XR650R for $2500 USD. If I had $2500 USd I would just buy a XR650R.
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Old 09-15-2010, 01:19 AM   #6
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Xr600 is a very torquey engine but doesn't seem to have a mad dash of power like the xr650r. The xr650l is a tuned down, low compression, xr600 with more weight. The xr600 will out perform it easily. The xr650r is the hot rod of the group. The xr650r is slightly heavier than the xr600r but its only a couple pounds.

I would put a oil cooler on the xr600, or xr650l if you get one. I never had overheating issues at altitude in colorado but I have known guys have issues in the desert. It would be nice not to have to worry about it.

I think my old xr600's engine was quieter than my current xr650r. I really liked the simplicity of the xr600, I crashed it in stupid ways and nothing ever seemed to get messed up, except the handlebars. The xr650r is nice for the power and the rads that keep it cool under crazy situations. I would be happy with either. I wouldn't leave either stock though, but thats personal preference they are fine stock, but better modded. There have been many times I've thought of selling my xr650r to build a pimped out xr600r.

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Old 09-15-2010, 01:26 AM   #7
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Hey

I have an 93 XR600R with a big bore kit

It easily motors along with me (80kg's ) and my Missus (?) so sat more than 110Kg's on. Will do 120Km/h with that weight.

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Old 09-15-2010, 02:14 AM   #8
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I'm in the utah, US. Where I live, they have 2003-2005 XR650R for $2500 USD
You guys with your crazy secondhand market... I'd love to buy a bike like that for 2500! Can't help out much in this one then, so I'll leave it for the other guys. If all else fails, remember the magic Rule of Three:

Right Bike, Right Price, Right Now - Pick any TWO!

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Yeah the 600 actually puts out more power than the 650L with it's softer tuned motor. If you can live without an e start then it's a better bike in my book.
The 650R is quite different....it still has the XR family feel but a lot more power on tap. -Quite a noisy motor compared to the almost sewing machine like 600. Both are great bikes but I'd pick the 600 for a general purpose DS bike especially for the money.

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Old 09-15-2010, 03:45 AM   #10
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I think that respringing the 600 for your weight is more necessary with a commuter.
Plan on that if you buy the bike. 235 is heavy for that machine.
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Old 09-15-2010, 02:18 PM   #11
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I think that respringing the 600 for your weight is more necessary with a commuter.
Plan on that if you buy the bike. 235 is heavy for that machine.
When yo say heavy for that machine, do you mean too heavy for the motor or just the suspension?
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Old 09-15-2010, 02:43 PM   #12
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When you say heavy for that machine, do you mean too heavy for the motor or just the suspension?
Just the suspension mate. 40-odd horsepower and more torque than you can poke a stick at. You say you've ridden the 650L - the 600 will be much the same in the engine department although on paper it does make a few more hp... think its only a couple hp difference though but still.

If it helps any, I'm 6'2"/200lb and rode an '05 DRZ-400E for a few months while I was learning to ride thanks to a kind family friend. It had a definite 'grin factor' about it, with great low and midrange power that'd get you off the mark quickly on dirt or tar. Brilliant bike around town, even on the stock gearing that allowed a top speed of 85mph and cruising of 60mph.

One day I was out with mates on their bikes at the farm, and strapping across a paddock. After getting where we were headed and some more technical stuff, one of the fellows (on a comp. spec CRF450) said did I realise that I had the front wheel almost a foot in the air until about halfway across the paddock! I had no idea, as I was giving the bike all it had and trying to stay on course. I knew then why the steering felt a bit vauge

The point of all that? The 600 will be fine for your weight.

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Old 09-15-2010, 09:53 PM   #13
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I have two XR600s and have done a bit of riding down around the Pauite Trail in your neck of the woods and ride with a bunch of guys with XR650Rs.

The 650R is the superior bike, stock vs. stock. It has more power, better suspension, and better ergos. It's also a better street bike. Keep a sharp eye out for an early (2000-2001) XR650R. Every once in a while one pops up at the $2,000 mark.

Riding ~30 street miles a day on a dirt-geared XR600 wouldn't be my idea of fun. With stock 14-48 gearing the bike gets pretty buzzy at about 60 mph. There's plenty of power to pull a big guy around but the stock suspension will need a respring/revalve. I'm 155lbs and overwhelm the stock suspension pretty easily.

Look for a 1991-up bike, the one with the rear disc brake. A solid 1991-up bike should run you between $1,000-$2,000 in the Salt Lake area. A bike with accessories and a full DS kit (stator/blinkers) commands a small premium over someone who slapped a license plate and a mirror on the bike and called it street legal. Earlier bikes (1985-1990) run $500-$1,500.

CR upside down fork swaps can really transform the XR600, as does minor (albeit pricey) engine work.

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