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Old 03-20-2005, 09:29 PM   #31
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What kind of distances can you folks with the 4 or 5 gallon tanks run before you have to start worrying about a refill?

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I have the Clarke 4 gallon tank shown in my picture in an earlier post. It is fairly slim, not much wider than the stock tank. Clarke makes a 4.7 gallon tank that looks like a pumpkin.

- The problem is that tanks with one petcock do not deliver the rated capacity. Gas sits in the right lobe with no way to get to the side with the petcock. I wish there was an in-tank siphon that could fix this.
- I get 3.3 gallons out of my 4 gal. before hitting reserve. At 50 mpg, that's 165 mi. (I have done this), or 130 when pushing hard. Typically 150 mi. range.
- The Clarke 4.7 gallon pumpkin one might allow more flow from side to side, but it looks wide.
- Acerbis makes a 5 gallon tank with dual petcocks. Solves the right lobe problem. But it is large, 5 gallons are heavy, petcocks are expensive, and you have to add more fuel hose (just takes $).
- All these tanks stain. Mine doesn't look as pretty as the picture anymore.
- The petcock barely cleared the head on my Clarke. Not a problem, until I rode hard, then it rubbed. The petcock started leaking where it rubbed. . A dremel to the head, and liquid metal to the petcock eliminated the rub.

Tradeoffs. What is your gas mileage? What range do you want? How much do you want to spend? What shape tank do you want? I'm satisfied with the ~150 mile range, it's much better than the 100 mile range (before worrying) of the stock tank. YMMV.
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Old 03-20-2005, 10:08 PM   #32
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Almost a XR650L

I have a 1988 NX650 which is almost a 650L. It has a 3.4 gallon tank that hits reserve about 3.0 gallons. At high speed (80-85 indicated) and aginst a strong head wind I can assure you it will bone dry at 97 miles (past experience). Normal range is about 110-120 miles to reserve. The bike works well for me and looks different than the other Honda 650's on the road.

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Old 03-20-2005, 10:28 PM   #33
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a buddy was storing his 650L at my house for a while, its was bored to 700, higher comp, big cam, pipe, etc wheelie machine, fun bike , i took it up to BC , van island , I only crashed it once, bent the sub frame, my friend picked it up soon after
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Old 03-21-2005, 02:52 PM   #34
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Well, It's now running again! The rebuild went fine, and it started on the second revolution! runs like a sewing machine too. I have 56 miles on it as of today. By the time I get back home from work, I'll have 80+ miles on it.
I'm Happy as a Lark. The 650L is my around town, zipp through traffic, back and forth to work, pack up and hit the mtns. bike, and it's a Great Bike! It had 16,300 on it when something got into the countershaft sprocket and stripped the sprocket & shaft out. I do NOT know how it happened, but to that point I had ZERO trouble with this bike,.....ever.

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Old 03-22-2005, 08:35 PM   #35
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A coupla' toughts

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Originally Posted by murgatroid42
I have the Clarke 4 gallon tank shown in my picture in an earlier post. It is fairly slim, not much wider than the stock tank. Clarke makes a 4.7 gallon tank that looks like a pumpkin.

- The problem is that tanks with one petcock do not deliver the rated capacity. Gas sits in the right lobe with no way to get to the side with the petcock. I wish there was an in-tank siphon that could fix this.
- I get 3.3 gallons out of my 4 gal. before hitting reserve. At 50 mpg, that's 165 mi. (I have done this), or 130 when pushing hard. Typically 150 mi. range.
- The Clarke 4.7 gallon pumpkin one might allow more flow from side to side, but it looks wide.
- Acerbis makes a 5 gallon tank with dual petcocks. Solves the right lobe problem. But it is large, 5 gallons are heavy, petcocks are expensive, and you have to add more fuel hose (just takes $).
- All these tanks stain. Mine doesn't look as pretty as the picture anymore.
- The petcock barely cleared the head on my Clarke. Not a problem, until I rode hard, then it rubbed. The petcock started leaking where it rubbed. . A dremel to the head, and liquid metal to the petcock eliminated the rub.

Tradeoffs. What is your gas mileage? What range do you want? How much do you want to spend? What shape tank do you want? I'm satisfied with the ~150 mile range, it's much better than the 100 mile range (before worrying) of the stock tank. YMMV.
The Clarke 4.7 is actually made for the XR600R.
Check to see if it will work with the "L". The "L" has a bit more "stuff" around the backbone.
I have the Acerbis tank. It's HUGE, I only use it on LOOOOOONG trips with few opportunities for fuel.
The jetting I changed to is GREAT for throttle response but I only get about 45mpg and reserve hits at ~155 miles on the road. Much worse in the deep sand whoops and ignorant tight that passes for trail here in south Jersey.
While working the Greenbriar Natl. Enduro last year I had to fill up twice during a day of pre-running, arrowing and trail clean-up. 6:00 am. to 6:00 pm
and totally POOPED. The bike, however, came through beautifully.

deerslayR

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Way to go Boojum. Glad to here your back to "L".
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Old 03-27-2005, 04:06 PM   #36
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I have the Clarke 4 gallon tank shown in my picture in an earlier post. It is fairly slim, not much wider than the stock tank. Clarke makes a 4.7 gallon tank that looks like a pumpkin.
I bought the Clarke tank from Baja Designs, but honestly, the seat damn near killed me aftyer an hour on a ride from Boston to D.C. I was thankful that I had to stop every 75-80 miles to re-fuel. That was about the mileage I got the entire trip running about 65-70 mph. I figure it equated to about high 40's mpg.

I just bought the silencer insert for my FMF exhaust, rather than jumping to the Big Gun system I mentioned in my earlier post. I will see if it's good enough. I like the FMF system, but it was loud enough that I worried about attracting unwanted law enforcement attention (though the great thing about a dual purpose bike is that they ignore you for the most part and spend their time chasing crotch rockets! )

I am interested in hearing about tire choices others on this thread have made. My stockers are probably past their prime, and I am interested in Avons or Michelins. Any advice?

Thanks - I am really enjoying this site!
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Old 03-27-2005, 05:40 PM   #37
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I am interested in hearing about tire choices others on this thread have made. My stockers are probably past their prime, and I am interested in Avons or Michelins. Any advice?

Thanks - I am really enjoying this site!
I'm running the Kenda K270's right now. I'm very happy with them in the dirt, can put up with them on the street but they are somewhat what noisy, and they're kinda spooky on a wet road. I always get the feeling that the rear is getting ready to slip out. I've heard good things about the Michelins so maybe I'll try them next.
Most tires seem fairly inexpensive and wear out fast enough that I'll probably try out most of the other's in the near future and see which ones work best for me. Good luck!
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Old 03-30-2005, 12:20 PM   #38
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There are a couple of other upgrades I have been wondering about, and if anyone has any feedback, I would appreciate it!

1. The Corbin seat. At first I was turned off on this idea, but it seems they will color-match it to your bike so it does not stick out like a sore thumb.

2. Front brake upgrades. It seems to me that if they offier super-motard upgrades for the XR600, there should be something out there for the XR650L, right? The standard front brake is a little lame (esp. compared to sport bikes), and I would be really interested in hearing what others may have done (e.g., braided brake lines, pad upgrades, etc.).

3. Rack or luggage choices. When I first bought my bike, it seems Baja Designs offered all sorts of cool stuff for it - now their site seems a little thin, especially for this bike. What have others been using for racks and/or luggage?

Thanks! I look forward to reading what you have been doing to your XR-Ls!
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Old 03-30-2005, 10:29 PM   #39
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There are a couple of other upgrades I have been wondering about, and if anyone has any feedback, I would appreciate it!

1. The Corbin seat. At first I was turned off on this idea, but it seems they will color-match it to your bike so it does not stick out like a sore thumb.

2. Front brake upgrades. It seems to me that if they offier super-motard upgrades for the XR600, there should be something out there for the XR650L, right? The standard front brake is a little lame (esp. compared to sport bikes), and I would be really interested in hearing what others may have done (e.g., braided brake lines, pad upgrades, etc.).

3. Rack or luggage choices. When I first bought my bike, it seems Baja Designs offered all sorts of cool stuff for it - now their site seems a little thin, especially for this bike. What have others been using for racks and/or luggage?

Thanks! I look forward to reading what you have been doing to your XR-Ls!
I have been researching the rack/luggage topic for my XR650L. I have concluded that the best choice for me is a set of Pelican cases which I will mount to a Happy Trails rack. I like the Pelican cases because they are water-proof and unbreakable (important for off-road). As for the rack choices, Summers Racing, Baja Designs, Happy Trail all make a rear rack for the XR650L. I am still looking for other options. I have found that Happy Trail seems to have the most available for the "L". When I eventually get this set-up completed, I will try to post some pics.
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Old 03-31-2005, 12:56 AM   #40
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Where did they all go?

So I bounced around a couple of dealerships today looking for an XR650L, and all I heard was "not even Honda has them". If dual-sport bikes are'nt popular with the masses, why do they sell out so quickly? This bike might have it's issues, but apparently nobody cares, since there are none to be found in N.C. Plenty of 650R's, but I'm not in the mood to spend that much extra to make it street legal. I'll admit it, I'm lazy and proud of it. One stop shopping is great, that's why I've been checking out the 650L for a while now. Go figure, when I'm ready to buy, there's none to be had. Bummer. Love what you ride, and screw others opinions.
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Old 03-31-2005, 08:21 AM   #41
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So I bounced around a couple of dealerships today looking for an XR650L, and all I heard was "not even Honda has them". If dual-sport bikes are'nt popular with the masses, why do they sell out so quickly? This bike might have it's issues, but apparently nobody cares, since there are none to be found in N.C. Plenty of 650R's, but I'm not in the mood to spend that much extra to make it street legal. I'll admit it, I'm lazy and proud of it. One stop shopping is great, that's why I've been checking out the 650L for a while now. Go figure, when I'm ready to buy, there's none to be had. Bummer. Love what you ride, and screw others opinions.


FWIW... In the Washington Post classifieds, there is someone selling a 2004 XR650L. The ad says, "Dirt/street legal, low 2400 miles, Never Offroad! All Street Miles, Only $4299-call 301-785-2383."
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Old 03-31-2005, 06:06 PM   #42
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Aside from the small fueltank and heavy rearend with the battery and stock muffler it was a fantastic bike. I miss it a lot. I wished it had a kickstarter backup to the electric starter. I got it over 100mph once. I don't need to ride that fast.

R versions are faster and lighter but for my riding I like the big brake light, turn signals and spedometer. Must have items in traffic.
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Old 03-31-2005, 10:36 PM   #43
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There are a couple of other upgrades I have been wondering about, and if anyone has any feedback, I would appreciate it!
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3. Rack or luggage choices. When I first bought my bike, it seems Baja Designs offered all sorts of cool stuff for it - now their site seems a little thin, especially for this bike. What have others been using for racks and/or luggage?

Thanks! I look forward to reading what you have been doing to your XR-Ls!
There already is a thread on the XR650L luggage setups. Look here. There is a pic of the cheapie steel rack I bought.
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Old 04-01-2005, 08:22 AM   #44
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I had to register to show mine off. Been lurking around here all winter.

Here's mine. Bought it last year and have completely trashed it in every mud hole it shouldn't have gone into. I've also managed to have one heck of a time on the pond out back with some friends this winter.

Anyway, just chiming in. I'm having a blast on this thing as my second bike. We have alot of dirt roads and fishing is good so 2-3 day back country trips on the XR are a great way to decompress.

Mods: I've still got to get rid of the cast iron stove but I want a quiet pipe (those days are over) and a bigger tank. Leaning toward the IMS.

I ran some MT21's last year and liked them well enough. Will run them again this year.


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Old 04-01-2005, 08:38 AM   #45
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I had to register to show mine off. Been lurking around here all winter.

Here's mine. Bought it last year and have completely trashed it in every mud hole it shouldn't have gone into. I've also managed to have one heck of a time on the pond out back with some friends this winter.

Anyway, just chiming in. I'm having a blast on this thing as my second bike. We have alot of dirt roads and fishing is good so 2-3 day back country trips on the XR are a great way to decompress.

Mods: I've still got to get rid of the cast iron stove but I want a quiet pipe (those days are over) and a bigger tank. Leaning toward the IMS.

I ran some MT21's last year and liked them well enough. Will run them again this year.


Tslapper, welcome to Adventure Rider!

Maybe you could supply a little more info regarding your luggage rack(s) on your XR? What brand?

I have an IMS tank and am happy with it. I did have to fabricate two new support pieces for the front because the supplied metal "brackets" looked pretty weak for the long-haul. I have a friend with the Acerbis 5-gal tank and he likes it except he cannot turn lock-to-lock because of his aftermarket bars/top clamp. Otherwise, the extra capacity seems to be worthwhile. I may switch to the Acerbis for long trips.
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