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Old 12-19-2011, 08:24 PM   #31
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All right. Got both Gorilla King and Titanium Jedi set up on my skype, if anyone else wants to join for our call Thursday, PM me your skype info.
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Old 12-20-2011, 12:28 AM   #32
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I am very interested in this trip. Looks like you have had some great adventures with many more to come.

I live in Germany and would ride to Sofia a few days before. July and Aug are very easy for me, Sept starts to be a bit difficult, October wide open again. I like to camp as much as possible and very flexible about distance and route. A little about me... I am married and have two sons. (if the time is right, my oldest would most likely join the trip if it falls during his summer break from college) My wife rides her own bike, but is not into any off-road, or iron-butt challenges, and prefers a hotel, so I would be solo. (i am going to try and convince her to ride along)

I have had some great rides living here in Germany, here is a link to summer 2010 of my trip to Norway with my friend Jeremy, (he is the younger one). I am the older one, with the red GS. http://web.me.com/oguy1976/Site/Movie.html

I will be here for the conference call. Nancy gave me everyones Skype addresses, just make sure you have Skype 5.0 or higher or you will not be able to join the call.

I look forward to talking.

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Dan Mariscal

- You and your contacts all have to be on Skype 5.0 or higher for group video calling to work
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:06 PM   #33
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Loved your video. You are definitely going to be our camera man. :)
Are you sure it wasn't a squirrel you swerved to miss? LOL

LukeKTM went to northern Sweden a few years back and would enjoy your video.

Also in advance, please everyone make sure your voice and speaker settings are correct by using the echo test call option. I bungled around for about 10 minutes trying to get it all configured. I want to make sure we make the most of our call and I'll try and keep it to an hour or less. If its possible for you to run over that might be a good idea.
General agenda

-Introductions: name, where you live, what your ride, why you are interested in the trip
-expectation: hotel vs camp. food preferences. any health limitations, deal breakers for riding (sickness/weather)
-finances ( daily per diem you can afford etc)
-dates
-route
-meeting point and splitting point
-your arrangements for a bike (rent, own)

Most important of all in my mind because I've ridden with people who were awesome partners and others well that I'd rather not ride with again.

-What makes you a good traveling partner? I really think this is very important for the safety of the group and to make sure everyone gets the most enjoyment out of this ride.

Looking forward to it!
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Old 12-22-2011, 06:01 PM   #34
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Great call today!

It was great talking to both Dan's today. It sounds like we are all in sync and will make a great team. Hawkpilot I would love it if your wife joined us for some of the trip, feel free to connect us.

Here is the Sena communication system. A set is $350 making it very affordable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KL5OyqXY9U

Here is the Spot Satellite Tracker.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pRAuZTSO_M

And my webpage where you can see the tracking function
http://share.findmespot.com/shared/f...ISvm77nqTLrv7a

-Still shooting for end of August/September time frame
-Final commitment by June 1st from all riders
-Agreement on safety and flexibility in route, destinations and if time is against us we will ride so that it's fun and not a marathon.
-HawkPilot to get camp grounds figured out along route

Next call late Spring April 25th 8am PST again.
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Old 12-23-2011, 07:48 AM   #35
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Sorry I missed the skype, I got woken up early for an emergency call... downed tree on a house, broken gas lines through the kitchen window, electric lines on the roof, it was a royal mess... on the bright side, it added significantly to my travel fund! Now if tree surgeons were paid like people surgeons i'd be really happy!

So i thought i'd respond here to the questions I was supposed to answer via skype

-Introductions: name, where you live, what your ride, why you are interested in the trip
My name is adam, I live in pittsburgh, I have a 97 FZR600R here, a 250 ninja knockoff in mexico, a bmw 1000 stashed in spain (may not be there anymore), and my new bike is for this next trip which is in storage in london, an aprilia pegaso 650.

-expectation: hotel vs camp. food preferences. any health limitations, deal breakers for riding (sickness/weather)

I generally camp and fill up my 5 gallon outdoor shower bag / shower at truck stops. If it get's really cold (switzerland, andorra, etc) I get a cheap motel under $40 or build a fire, drink some cheap regional wine, and sleep in my snow pants. I have had some recent luck with couch surfing and I would like to try airbnb and camp in my garden on my way to meet up with everyone. I have no health or weather limitations... rain or snow i'm prepared.

-finances ( daily per diem you can afford etc)
I like to make my own food when i travel so that keep things cheap, i'm in love with my MSR pans.. and with peanut butter and jelly. I made it 5 weeks on less than $1000 in europe, so i'm going to say $40 a day food/fuel.... exceptions on extensive fuel consumption days. I did a lot of fuel calculations in the past, but i found riding slow in the highest gear was a time waster so I burned a bit more than I had expected on high speed toll roads doing 90.

-dates
I've got things flexible now with work... it will be nice to get out of the heat at the end of summer and ride. I'd like to start doing some flight research soon.

-route
-meeting point and splitting point
-your arrangements for a bike (rent, own)

I think all this can go into one, the route Nancy has planned out is beyond phenomenal, I will try to take screen shots of the switch backs i loved most in the Alps and Pyrenees. Anywhere I get to go is somewhere I want to be, so that makes me pretty flexible here too. My initial plan was to take the bike in the spring to Sofia and leave it for the end of the summer, now that work is allowing me to take a longer trip I think I'll combine the two into one and save on buying the extra flights. I still have yet to see how the flights from Sofia back to London compare in cost to me riding back.

Most important of all in my mind because I've ridden with people who were awesome partners and others well that I'd rather not ride with again.

-What makes you a good traveling partner? I really think this is very important for the safety of the group and to make sure everyone gets the most enjoyment out of this ride.


I'm really good with maps, my passport looks like jason bournes. I'm mechanically inclined, I speak english / spanish... have a bit of emergency medical / rescue training. I am never freaked out about where I am or what time it is, it pretty much takes a robbery or a broken bone to give me a what most people would call a bad day, but I call it a learning experience.
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Old 12-23-2011, 04:21 PM   #36
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Adam, thanks for posting the information. Sorry we missed you. Nancy scheduled the next Conference call in April, but perhaps we can talk sooner. We are working on some maps and a few other things right now. Probably have a few things for you to look into. I live here in Germany, so depending on what you end up doing, perhaps we can meet up and ride to Bulgaria together....talk to you soon.

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Old 12-27-2011, 02:44 PM   #37
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Rough maps of entire route

Day 1 Leave Sofia and head to southern Serbia. First stop lake near Surdulica. 120KM. Gorgeous ride around lake. Next stop Djavolja Varos (west from Leskovac) valley similar to cappadocia in Turkey. 80KM. Last ride of day to Novi Pazar surrounded by gorgeous monastery in southern mountains of Serbia, Crna Reka a cave monastary south of the town. 158KM

Day 1 Map: http://g.co/maps/sqm3v

Day 2 Leave Novi Pazar to Niksic in Montenegro. Turkish monastery and the lakes. 260KM then a short ride to Kotor and the St Ivan fortress and the gorgeous coastal town of Sveti Stefan 140KM.

Day 2 Map: http://g.co/maps/2r9wq

Day 3 Ride North along coast to Croatia to Dubrovnik for the ferry crossing to Italy (Bari). 120KM (short day, after 2 long ones) and coordination of ferry times....may take an overnight ferry but we'll get there early enough to take an afternoon one too.

Day 3:http://g.co/maps/f8yh7

Day 4 Ferry crossing Ferry Link: Tuesday is 22-07 the rest of the week it is 13-2000. 26 euro for a bike, and 45-91 euro for accommodations. (deck up to a 4 person room w/shower)

Day 4 Map: http://g.co/maps/vbghj

Day 5 arrive Italy. Take road west to Amalfi/Salerno (S145/S163) and Ravello via Melfi – Castle and Matera – Cave homes Lagopesole – Castle 150KM. South via Potenza and then west to Amalfi coast. 180KM.

Day 5 Map:http://g.co/maps/e8s4p

Day 6 Pompeii. North inland along A1 E45 to Montecassino Abbey 165KM then along mountainside then on to the villages inside of walls built by the Cyclops; Anagni, Alatari,Arpino. 80KM.TRY and squeeze in Umbria (Trevi is a hilltop town) and a castle in Bracciano. Then Cinque Terre Area along coast. 150KM. Finally to Civitavecchia for the ferry to Porto Vecchio Corsica. 140KM Only one a week

Day 6 Map: http://g.co/maps/khekx

Day 7 Ferry Arrive by ferry Porto Vecchio and stay at camping on beach (Palombaggia or Rondinara Bay)

Day 7 Map:http://g.co/maps/ne3bm

Day 8 South to Bonifacio cliffs and Neolithic Corsican culture in Filitosa then North on D368 t D268 Col De Bavella Mtns. 50 KM. Then West to Capital of Corte highest point in Corsica 120KM

Day 8 Map :http://g.co/maps/ps6mz

Day 9 West to Porta on D84 then North to Scandola Nature Reserve 80KM South to Golfe D’Ajaccio D81- 80KM then Ferry to Monaco if we are running behind schedule

Day 9 North to Bastia to catch the ferry to Livorno Italy if we are on time. Ride along coast Pisa.
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TRY and squeeze in Umbria (Trevi is a hilltop town) and a castle in Bracciano Would have seen this on a previous day
Then Cinque Terre Area along coast. 150KM. Northwest to Portofino Peninsula. 90KM. on to Genoa (Il Bigo mast sculpture, Plazza De Ferrari, Casella Train 55 mins book 010 837 321 www.ferroviagenovacasella.it . 90KM

Day 9 Map:http://g.co/maps/dp3pn

Day 10 west to San Remo, north valley tour Armea & Crosia, end up in Dolceacqua (midevil village of narrow alleys & tall houses and a river) 150 KM twisty road by water. Then a ride through the mountains above San Remo (another 90KM)

Day 10 Map:http://g.co/maps/4fkcz

Day 11 Monaco Beach MalaPlage/Cap D’Ail 50KM North to Grand Canyon Du Verdon 100KM and follow D71 towards Lac Ste Croix. Corniche Sublime. Stay in Castellane 40KM then Sisteron Citadel then SW to Abbaye Notre Dame de Senanque 90KM

Day 11 Map: http://g.co/maps/gqy4h

Day 12 Avignon (Chateauneuf Du Pape) 140KM Les Baux-de-Provence for the magnificent Chateau Des Baux. 30KM
South back to coast Camargue (Manade Farm) 40KM. Back to Marseille and a ferry to Barcelona. 110KM (Does not look like there if a ferry from Marseille to Barcelona)

Day 12 Map: http://g.co/maps/zrasv

Day 13 Barcelona
Day 14 West
Day 15 West

I really could not find anything special or interesting to see through the somewhat northern part of Spain. If someone could take over here I would be much appreciative. I loved Spain more than any other country but by God I just could not be excited about places or things in the guide books I got.
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Looks like we could take a ferry from Barcelona to TANGIER, get off the ferry at 10 am and then ride/ferry back to spain and up to Lisbon
Day 13-14 Map:http://g.co/maps/j43pu

Tangier, Morocco to Lisbon

Day 15 Map: http://g.co/maps/jnpaq

Day 17 North to Sintra,tour area using the N247, N375, N247-3. (60KM). North to Obidos (walled town)100KM. East to Tomar, knights templar Convento De Cristo. 100KM. North Bucaco Monastery in National Forest 160KM. North Vila Real also knows as the birthplace of Port 160KM (ride along river)

Day 17 Map: http://g.co/maps/9p4mv

Day 18 choice (if behind schedule) Braganca, if on time, Parque Nacional de Peneda-Geres. 120KM. Nossa Senhora de Peneda town in parque. North to Santiago de Compostela (Spain) 200KM

Day 18 Map: http://g.co/maps/cm4bm

Day 19 Spain back towards France 500km
Day 20 Spain back towards France 500km

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Take the route over the tallest bridge in the world Millau Viaduct
Day 21 Toulouse/Carcassone France famous walled city. Lyon 550KM

Day 19-20-21 Map: http://g.co/maps/2afut

Day 22 Geneva 150KM

Day 22 Map: http://g.co/maps/dk7cy

Day 23 Matterhorn Frederic a fellow rider offered to ride a few days with us and get us back to Northern Italy

Day 23 Map: http://g.co/maps/cmr6v

Day 24 SwissAlps

Day 25 Lake Como

Day 25 Map: http://g.co/maps/zcyjm

Day 26 Venice 350KM

Day 26 Map: http://g.co/maps/d53s7

Camp Ground outside of Venice

Day 27 Croatia via Trieste. 170KM. Piran Slovenia. Colorful port town. Pula Croatia for a Roman amphitheater100KM. Ferry to Mali Losinj island. ride north to Merag 70km. Ferry to Valbiska. KRK for a coastal red tiles roofed city.

Day 27 Map: http://g.co/maps/byy4j

Day 28 race to get back to Sofia 1000km

Day 28 Map: http://g.co/maps/34c2f

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Old 01-12-2012, 02:04 PM   #38
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Finished mapping the route

I finished mapping the proposed route. Looks like a few days will have to change, although the routes were based on no tolls and avoiding hwys.

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Old 01-13-2012, 02:48 PM   #39
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Would LOVE the ferry to Tangier (the armpit of Morocco) ! Seriously, good suggestion, avoid riding across a long hot place....let's do it and spend two nights in Lisbon instead of riding through it.

Also tallest bridge, clearly my guidebook didn't even highlight that. We will have to get good shots of our altitude sickness and drop worthless US pennies below and watch them reach terminal velocity.

Lord, I just re-read what I wrote, I've been working too much...when is this going to happen?

Thanks HawkPilot!!! this is awesome.
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:26 PM   #40
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When are you planning on heading down to Sofia for your trip? I would like to tag along with you as far as there?
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Old 02-02-2012, 12:20 AM   #41
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Once we get the dates sorted out it would be 2-3 days prior. It looks about 18 hours if I recall. I was just planning on autobahn to Sofia. If you want ride down with me that is no problem. It's looking like September.
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Sound good

Sounds like fun. I have a ton of free time now. I have a place over near Katterbach and just plan on riding till the wheels fall off this year. By the way good video you put together on your tirp up to the N. Circle.

I'm off to Tunisia next week for a run thru the sand dunes I'll post up a RR when I get some content.
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Old 02-07-2012, 01:52 PM   #43
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a word from Portugal

Hey everyone,

Nancy told me you were coming this way later on in the year.
As I told her, I might not be here at that time.
Anyway there's a couple of groups /sites you should check out online and maybe say something.
They're a very friendly bunch and I'm sure they'll help you in anyway they can.

http://www.nomadstrail.net/
http://www.trailaventura.com/forum/

Just use the translation option on your browser (google chrome should do it fine) as they're both in portuguese.
You can also try their FB page at - https://www.facebook.com/groups/161307286940/

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Old 02-13-2012, 09:59 AM   #44
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Hi, Lady and Gentlemen!

As asked by Nancy, here's some info I placed on other topics similar to this. (I'll search for more of my posts on this subject)
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Source: http://olhares.aeiou.pt/galeriasprivadas/browse.php?user_id=25087
  1. Almeida
  2. Castelo Mendo
  3. Castelo Novo
  4. Castelo Rodrigo
  5. Idanha-a-Velha
  6. Linhares da Beira
  7. Marialva
  8. Monsanto
  9. Piódão
  10. Sortelha
  11. Belmonte
  12. Trancoso
Almeida


Piodão


Castelo Rodrigo


> A list of castles and forts around Portugal (small site in portuguese but with pics)

> Óbidos


> Sintra (too close to Lisbon but worth a visit if you go during the week, specially the Pena Palace)


> Tomar (quiet small town really worth a day's visit if you're into knights templar history )


The Douro Valley. Besides the stunning views, fantastic food and wine there are some great roads and trails




The terraces you see in the pics are the ones responsible for Port Wine. Most of the great farms and companies of Port were at some point owned by british families and that's why they're still named after them (Cockburn's, Taylor's, Graham's and many more) The cellars are located in Vila Nova de Gaia (on the southern margin of the Douro river, facing Porto, or Oporto as you call it)
These are the roofs of the cellars, viewing Porto


And these were the boats used to bring the freshly-made wine to age in the cellar's casks.


I'll try to get some more info in here, meanwhile, go ahead and put your doubts and thoughts on this.

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Old 02-13-2012, 01:03 PM   #45
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Hi everyone

Hello from icy cold Bulgaria ! I'm Luke from Sofia - the starting point of the trip :) . The weather now looks like It will never be warm enough to ride a bike. The coldest winter in 30 years !

Anyway , the plane looks great! I won't have enough time to do the whole thing. I will probably join you as far as Italy at the most . Entering Morrocco for a day is not a good idea . Their customs procedure is living hell ! A day can easily be lost just to enter the country. It is not worth staying there for a day or two only.

See you in ... 7 months !
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