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Old 09-14-2011, 02:58 PM   #1
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Eek DOT vs Snell vs ECE vs BSI

I know that in the United States the DOT is the standard that a helmet has to pass to be legal for use.

What I don't get is the difference between ECE, BSI, and Snell ratings.

Could someone please explain the difference or link me to an article that does?
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Old 09-14-2011, 03:08 PM   #2
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Tell me how you are going to crash & I'll tell you what type of helmet to wear.
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Old 09-14-2011, 03:11 PM   #3
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Motorcyclist Magazine had a great comparison in their June 2005 issue. It used to be online, but I can't seem to find it now.

If you can find a copy of that issue, though, it contains a great article on the subject.
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Old 09-14-2011, 03:16 PM   #4
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Tell me how you are going to crash & I'll tell you what type of helmet to wear.
I see...
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Old 09-14-2011, 03:16 PM   #5
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http://www.facebook.com/note.php?not...11813425505476

http://www.msf-usa.org/imsc/proceedi...clehelmets.pdf



Dexter Ford wrote the article that started the debate.. it's an updated version of the 2005 Motorcyclist article that got him fired...

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/27/au...NELL.html?_r=1


Why he got fired...

http://jalopnik.com/5582380/how-the-...urnalist-fired
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Old 09-14-2011, 03:28 PM   #6
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http://www.facebook.com/note.php?not...11813425505476

http://www.msf-usa.org/imsc/proceedi...clehelmets.pdf



Dexter Ford wrote the article that started the debate.. it's an updated version of the 2005 Motorcyclist article that got him fired...

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/27/au...NELL.html?_r=1


Why he got fired...

http://jalopnik.com/5582380/how-the-...urnalist-fired
Thanks, good links.
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Old 09-14-2011, 03:41 PM   #7
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good links indeed.

now i think i understand why the june 2005 article is no longer on the motorcyclist magazine website.

and i know i will never read or trust anything that magazine publishes again (meaning the original article hit the nail on the head, but motorcyclist pulled it for unethical reasons...and so i no longer trust in their objectivity).
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Old 09-14-2011, 03:58 PM   #8
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This is why the only subscription I have is for Motorcycle Consumer News. They have no advertising. I prefer the Brit magazines, anyway. More expensive, but they have a lot more content for the dollar.
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Old 09-14-2011, 04:14 PM   #9
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I'd never seen that one before- does a nice job of comparing them. Thanks!
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Old 09-14-2011, 05:10 PM   #10
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Just buy one that fits and wear it.

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Old 09-14-2011, 07:00 PM   #11
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Old 09-15-2011, 06:19 AM   #12
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Good info......I'm looking into a new helmet this spring, I'm gonna keep all this in mind. Makes me feel a little better about my DOT approved helmet.
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Old 09-15-2011, 07:02 AM   #13
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Absolutely nothing wrong with DOT or Snell or any other nationally recognized rating. Like Dakez said, just buy one that fits correctly (I see way too many people wearing helmets that are way too loose -- it is supposed to be snug to tight on your cheeks!) and wear it every time you ride.
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Old 09-15-2011, 07:20 AM   #14
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As far as unethical motorcycle magazine behavior. All I can say is Duh!

I was a young lad when I bought a motorcycle that was so highly rated.by ALL the magazines. An 82 Honda VF750 Sabre.

It is with out a doubt the worst motorcycle I ever owned. Now Honda did eventually make good V4. This was NOT it. I hated it.

Now I make up my own mind. All the magazines pan the Telelever suspension. Well, it feels different, but pay attention, feedback is there. It is really pretty darn good, and then stick on an Ohlins. Once you learn it, I really do not want anything else. The writer can not ride a bike a bit, and know it. When when they can get fired for telling the truth, sigh.

Re.helmets. Fit/comfort/venting/faceshield is most important. Any decent full face helmet is so much better than no helmet, the difference between brands is slight. Sure, IF your helmet were to fail, and somehow the rest of you survived, it would be bad. It happens, not often, but I am sure it happens. And we will never know if the low cost brand failed, if the expensive brand would have saved you, it might have been worse.. Compared to the no helmet carnage, huge improvement with any helmet.. Spend the extra $300 on training, tires, gas, armor and have some fun.

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Old 09-15-2011, 07:30 AM   #15
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Looks like they just quoted verbatim from whatever spin Snell gave them.

And lol at this logic fail:

"The chief virtue of the Snell M2010 standard is that it will enable a “world helmet” which will provide Snell levels of protection to riders in Europe as well as in North America."
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