Rent vs ship - Page 5

wheatwhacker · 03-03-2012, 12:36 PM

Okay, who is next for a Euro bike?

CourtFisher · 03-03-2012, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wheatwhacker

Any idea who gives the best rates?
I'm paying 240 Euro/yr to keep mine insured over there.
I may switch to green card insurance if it works out cheaper

You can check out the Euro Green Card websites yourself for rates, but if you're paying 240 Euro/ year (domestic 3rd party insurance on IRE-reg ?), that's a "bargain" compared to any of the rates you would have to pay for separate Green Card.

Remember, Euro Green Card is intended mostly for "non-resident" "short-term" riding periods, e.g. usually 1-3 months, although it's available for longer periods up to 12 mos. See Ken Fritz's reference above to an even cheaper Euro Green Card source; it's still more expensive than what you're paying.

"Domestic" insurance on locally-registered vehicles is almost always much cheaper. Same in the US.

Timmer · 03-03-2012, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by wheatwhacker

Okay, who is next for a Euro bike?

I might be, I would be interested in how the titling works for a US owner.

wheatwhacker · 03-04-2012, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmer

I might be, I would be interested in how the titling works for a US owner.

Titling is not a problem for a US owner as long as you have an address to use.

The bikes are on http://www.donedeal.ie/find/motorbik...-sale/Ireland/

Ireland's version of Craigslist.

The beauty of this is that there is no language barrier, as long as you can understand the accent

. The prices on the posts are mostly "feeler" prices, so don't be put off as there is usually room for bargaining

MichaelJ · 03-04-2012, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken Fritz

I've seen 30-35 Euro/month for indoor storage with a battery tender on the bike.

US$300/year with Knopf - but no full-time battery tender (there is one that makes the rounds).

wheatwhacker · 03-04-2012, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelJ

US$300/year with Knopf - but no full-time battery tender (there is one that makes the rounds).

That's a fair rate, especially for the responsibility of storing multiple ten's of thousands worth of motorcycles.

The only disadvantage with Germany is the short riding season. Storing in a milder climate like the southern countries, ie France, Spain, Italy, Southern Britain, even Ireland if you don]'t mind the rain, gives you at least of 2-4 months of extra riding weather. I went back to Ireland last year in March, for 10 days and never saw a drop of rain, then again, that is not the norm. The year before I got hammered with rain in July. Temps were pretty mild though.

http://www.findlocalweather.com/weat...re_europe.html

I am headed back in April for 10 days so, if any of you want me to look at bikes you might be interested in buying let me know.

Don't worry, I'm doing this because I like doing it. Clenching deals with people 1000's of miles apart, is about as close to international trading as I'll ever get.

WW

CourtFisher · 03-04-2012, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelJ

US$300/year with Knopf - but no full-time battery tender (there is one that makes the rounds).

Optional full-time battery tender if you supply your own

MichaelJ · 03-05-2012, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CourtFisher

Optional full-time battery tender if you supply your own

I never thought to ask - thanks for the info.

Yojimbo · 03-06-2012, 10:02 AM

Mototouring in Milan is 250 euro a year for storage, and they will deliver the bike to Malpensa, the Milan airport. Also, on their website, Arturo offers to find you a bike, like a V-Strom or a Trans-Alp that is "relatively" inexpensive. If you see yourself going back yearly (and you'll want to once you go), then buying/storage/shipping makes sense. Otherwise, I'd agreed with the consensus that renting beats shipping, at least for a tour of less than a month. Keep in mind that you are getting a brand new bike, with no reliability worries, and someone to call if there is a problem
Within the E.U., border crossings are a non-event, and nobody wants to see your passport, much less registration and "green card", but that doesn't mean it won't happen. If you're outside the E.U. (Croatia for example) border crossings can be an "event" and they want to see passport/registration/green card, and in some cases, an international drivers license.
No matter how you do it, it will be worth it, so go.

Yojimbo · 03-06-2012, 10:13 AM

My mistake, it's Eligio Arturo at MotoTouring in Milan

MichaelJ · 03-07-2012, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Yojimbo

Within the E.U., border crossings are a non-event, and nobody wants to see your passport, much less registration and "green card", but that doesn't mean it won't happen.

It WILL happen if you have an "oopsie".

But, as Yojimbo said, border crossings in western Europe are a non-event these days - much like crossing state lines here in the US. It feels strange as I spent 9 years in Europe in the USAF in the late '60s through the early '80s when border crossing WAS an event. Not to mention pockets full of assorted currencies.

wheatwhacker · 03-07-2012, 06:27 AM

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But, as Yojimbo said, border crossings in western Europe are a non-event these days - much like crossing state lines here in the US. It feels strange as I spent 9 years in Europe in the USAF in the late '60s through the early '80s when border crossing WAS an event. Not to mention pockets full of assorted currencies.[/QUOTE]

I wonder if the same will happen in Central America.

MichaelJ · 03-08-2012, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by wheatwhacker

I wonder if the same will happen in Central America.

It would be - interesting - but politics tend to be a bit more volatile down there. But, stranger things have happened.

Ken Fritz · 03-08-2012, 01:29 PM

So if Latin America eased up border crossings and had a single currency, would the money be called Latinos?

Storage with Adriatric Mototours is another option. They offer a full servic storage deal. Contact Matej at info@adriaticmototours.com for more info. They are based in Ljubljana, Slovenia, one of the prettiest places on earth. Great riding there, too.

Jimmy the Heater · 03-21-2012, 05:33 PM

God I seriously hope Wheatwhackers offer is good a year from now. I have one more tour to do on my K1200LT in 2012 and then I can sell it to fund a Europe tour in 2013.

Been looking at Done Deal and prices for something that I would like to tour on are insanely cheap. Yamaha XJ600 (Seca II in US) for € 1200, Honda Hornet 250 (inline 4 250!!!! Try to get that in the states) for € 1500, Suzuki Bandit 600 or even 1200's for € 1700

Hell I toured all over the western US on my Ninja 250, CruiserGirl did 12k on a 125 Van Van across Europe...I don't need anything fancy just want to see the EU on 2 wheels.

So just a public thanks to Wheatwhacker for making this offer to ADV and opening up new ways of exploring Europe.

03-03-2012, 12:36 PM	#61
wheatwhacker It's raining here Joined: Oct 2006 Location: Cork, Ireland Oddometer: 2,704	Okay, who is next for a Euro bike? __________________ European bike sales and storage. https://www.facebook.com/motofeirme

03-07-2012, 06:27 AM	#72
wheatwhacker It's raining here Joined: Oct 2006 Location: Cork, Ireland Oddometer: 2,704	[QUOTE= But, as Yojimbo said, border crossings in western Europe are a non-event these days - much like crossing state lines here in the US. It feels strange as I spent 9 years in Europe in the USAF in the late '60s through the early '80s when border crossing WAS an event. Not to mention pockets full of assorted currencies.[/QUOTE] I wonder if the same will happen in Central America. __________________ European bike sales and storage. https://www.facebook.com/motofeirme

03-08-2012, 01:29 PM	#74
Ken Fritz Studly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2002 Location: Orangevale, CA Oddometer: 917	currency and storage So if Latin America eased up border crossings and had a single currency, would the money be called Latinos? Storage with Adriatric Mototours is another option. They offer a full servic storage deal. Contact Matej at info@adriaticmototours.com for more info. They are based in Ljubljana, Slovenia, one of the prettiest places on earth. Great riding there, too. Ken Fritz screwed with this post 03-17-2012 at 09:46 AM

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03-06-2012, 10:02 AM	#69
Yojimbo Adventurer Joined: May 2007 Oddometer: 23	Mototouring in Milan is 250 euro a year for storage, and they will deliver the bike to Malpensa, the Milan airport. Also, on their website, Arturo offers to find you a bike, like a V-Strom or a Trans-Alp that is "relatively" inexpensive. If you see yourself going back yearly (and you'll want to once you go), then buying/storage/shipping makes sense. Otherwise, I'd agreed with the consensus that renting beats shipping, at least for a tour of less than a month. Keep in mind that you are getting a brand new bike, with no reliability worries, and someone to call if there is a problem Within the E.U., border crossings are a non-event, and nobody wants to see your passport, much less registration and "green card", but that doesn't mean it won't happen. If you're outside the E.U. (Croatia for example) border crossings can be an "event" and they want to see passport/registration/green card, and in some cases, an international drivers license. No matter how you do it, it will be worth it, so go.

03-06-2012, 10:13 AM	#70
Yojimbo Adventurer Joined: May 2007 Oddometer: 23	My mistake, it's Eligio Arturo at MotoTouring in Milan

03-21-2012, 05:33 PM	#75
Jimmy the Heater Tilting the Horizon Joined: Sep 2004 Location: WA Palouse area Oddometer: 1,407	God I seriously hope Wheatwhackers offer is good a year from now. I have one more tour to do on my K1200LT in 2012 and then I can sell it to fund a Europe tour in 2013. Been looking at Done Deal and prices for something that I would like to tour on are insanely cheap. Yamaha XJ600 (Seca II in US) for € 1200, Honda Hornet 250 (inline 4 250!!!! Try to get that in the states) for € 1500, Suzuki Bandit 600 or even 1200's for € 1700 Hell I toured all over the western US on my Ninja 250, CruiserGirl did 12k on a 125 Van Van across Europe...I don't need anything fancy just want to see the EU on 2 wheels. So just a public thanks to Wheatwhacker for making this offer to ADV and opening up new ways of exploring Europe.