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Old 11-05-2011, 09:55 AM   #211
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That looks great! Love the headlights and lack of beak!



Looks great, I wonder how well they can take a hit?

Jim


I really hate beak bikes, it had to go.

Assuming you mean the light itself, they're pretty tough and don't cost much if I break one.
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Old 11-05-2011, 12:54 PM   #212
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are you gonna take it over some sweet jumps?
how much rear travel did you end up with? and seat height ?and belly clearance?
ohh and btw cool bike you have there sir
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Old 11-05-2011, 03:01 PM   #213
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Been following a long for a while...very inspirational stuff.

Very nice job so far, bud...and thanx for sharing it with all of us
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Old 11-05-2011, 05:09 PM   #214
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are you gonna take it over some sweet jumps?
how much rear travel did you end up with? and seat height ?and belly clearance?
ohh and btw cool bike you have there sir

No sweet jumps on this thing, lighter two-up dirt touring was the goal.

Rear travel is stock to far, might try to find the Adventure model rear shock at some point, it's 3/4" or so longer.

I've been dialing the slope out of the riders seat, so it's gotten taller..not sure of the final measurement, I can still flat foot it, 36" inseam.

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Been following a long for a while...very inspirational stuff.

Very nice job so far, bud...and thanx for sharing it with all of us
Thanks for chiming in every now and again!!


Nixels came over and helped me do some stuff today...I kind of barked orders...take that off and drill a hole right there, now take this for a pattern and drill holes...that sort of stuff, he bought me several hours by helping. Much appreciated!!

I'm about seven hours in today, another five to go. Wiring is tiring. This is the first scratch built harness I've ever made, not easy.

Pics later, came in for a break.

Oh yeah, Saint Nix-a-laus brought me a heat gun...gonna put the wife to work later.

Really close to done.
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Old 11-05-2011, 07:17 PM   #215
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Good times.

I don't know that I helped all that much, but I didn't put you any further behind.

It was fun to contribute. Looking forward to seeing the video of you starting it up.

This time, get Mrs. larryboy to run the video camera when you start it up and ride off.



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Old 11-05-2011, 07:34 PM   #216
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Rear travel is stock, might try to find the Adventure model rear shock at some point, it's 3/4" or so longer.
With a longer shock, and more swingarm 'articulation', the driveshaft U-joints need to be aligned.

The Adv has a double-tooth on the driveshaft spline that aligns the U-joints. The regular model GS doesn't have the double-tooth on the splines, and the U-joints can be randomly aligned.


Looking good over there, Rob!



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Old 11-05-2011, 09:03 PM   #217
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Thanks guys, got your email Jim...thanks so much!!

I'm completely destroyed, wiring makes you think.

I've got turn signals including the dash indicators. Brake light is done, running lights work. Thumb the button and the starter turns the motor over. Wired in a charge indicator light like Poolside taught me and it lights up with "key" on.

I put the oil cooler screen on that Nixels modified for me, works perfect...thanks buddy.

I'll finish up the headlight and assorted wiring tomorrow, then she'll be running.

Various pics from today...





Thanks for doing those spacers, Nix. I ended up trying one on each side because I don't have any longer bolts...I slammed the seat in the middle as hard as I could hit it and it jumped right in the notch and latched.




Can't even see the swicth, I need to move the preload adjuster as it hit my ankle when standing.




Randomness:










I'm done for the day, exhausted...


Oh yeah, for the feller asking about seat height...no fuel, sitting level...35" when I get on it I can flat foot it.
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Old 11-05-2011, 09:34 PM   #218
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I really like the industrial air cleaner.

Definitely take a break from scratch-built electrical wiring when you get a little faded.



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Old 11-05-2011, 09:39 PM   #219
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I really like the industrial air cleaner.

Definitely take a break from scratch-built electrical wiring when you get a little faded.



No kidding, I'm wiped out from thinking.

I hid a relay for the starter behind the plastic starter cover, it's the only relay I've used so far. I'm going to use a couple of relays with the headlights, but the use of LED's has cut down on the need for a relay for every little thing.
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Old 11-06-2011, 09:46 AM   #220
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No kidding, I'm wiped out from thinking.

I hid a relay for the starter behind the plastic starter cover, it's the only relay I've used so far. I'm going to use a couple of relays with the headlights, but the use of LED's has cut down on the need for a relay for every little thing.

CARBS/IGNITION

It will be interesting to see how this project will run with those carbs and the special ignition. Do you have any tuning specs to start with .

WIRING
From my personal experience this kind of wiring job needs good planing starting by putting together a comprehensive electrical wiring diagram. A dedicated combination water proof relay and fuse box is the way to go. A crimp wiring joint with good parts is faster, better and easier to repair if ever needed.

FRAME

Have you checked/tested your NEW frame welds and frame alignment?

ON THE ROAD
At the pace you are working on this you could have a running bike on the road by the end of the week. Will this bike be plated and if so what will you do for the mandatory state road/safety inspection.

I am asking you all this because this is the sort of project I would be interested in doing myself. PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD GOING. Always a pleasure to follow.
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Old 11-06-2011, 11:48 AM   #221
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CARBS/IGNITION
It will be interesting to see how this project will run with those carbs and the special ignition. Do you have any tuning specs to start with .

WIRING
From my personal experience this kind of wiring job needs good planing starting by putting together a comprehensive electrical wiring diagram. A dedicated combination water proof relay and fuse box is the way to go. A crimp wiring joint with good parts is faster, better and easier to repair if ever needed.

FRAME
Have you checked/tested your NEW frame welds and frame alignment?

ON THE ROAD
At the pace you are working on this you could have a running bike on the road by the end of the week. Will this bike be plated and if so what will you do for the mandatory state road/safety inspection.

I am asking you all this because this is the sort of project I would be interested in doing myself. PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD GOING. Always a pleasure to follow.

Carbs/Ignition:I just rode the bike, gonna need jetting help. Bogs out over 1/4 turn of throttle. I tried the different ignition curves and settled on the #2 setting for now, it bogs less on that setting.

Wiring: From experience I prefer less planning and more doing. I'm using inline sealed blade fuses...I don't like to lock myself into a fuse box, it's easier and faster to fuse where needed.

Frame: All that was done during the build...25 degrees of rake and it's centered, nothing else to do.

On The Road: That's today, it's plated and there aren't inspections here in California.


Thanks for reading and the comments!!

Off to figure out a jetting baseline...
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Old 11-06-2011, 12:34 PM   #222
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Carbs/Ignition:I just rode the bike, gonna need jetting help. Bogs out over 1/4 turn of throttle. I tried the different ignition curves and settled on the #2 setting for now, it bogs less on that setting.

Wiring: From experience I prefer less planning and more doing. I'm using inline sealed blade fuses...I don't like to lock myself into a fuse box, it's easier and faster to fuse where needed.

Frame: All that was done during the build...25 degrees of rake and it's centered, nothing else to do.

On The Road: That's today, it's plated and there aren't inspections here in California.


Thanks for reading and the comments!!

Off to figure out a jetting baseline...

Those smoothbore carbs need a real big flow of air to work well. It sounds like your air box is choking the air flow. Try to run the bike w/o the air box connected and see what happens. I have been selling Mikuni TM smoothbore kits for over 20 years but we do not sell the carb setup with accelerator pumps that you have . If you have your carb specs (size,jets,needle jet,slide,needle slide,needle slide clip position) I might be able to steer you in the right direction.

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Old 11-06-2011, 12:51 PM   #223
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Took a big swing at the main jets and threw in some stock GSXR1100W mains, I have no idea what size they are, but it confirmed my feeling that it was mega-rich.

Put my helmet on for this spin around the block, romp on it in second and it carries the front wheel!! Hit a sweet jump too.

Dead stable, nothing funny going on. I've got a little bog right off idle still. I found a jetting guide for a TM40 on an XR650R, I think I'll order up that stuff and just throw it at it. I PM'd gaspipe to see if he remembers what jetting he did on his conversion, hope he's not too busy and can toss me some numbers really quick.
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Old 11-06-2011, 12:53 PM   #224
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If you have your carb specs (size,jets,needle jet,slide,needle slide,needle slide clip position) I might be able to steer you in the right direction.

It was the main, didn't see your post as I was typing the other reply.

TM40-6

Came with:

165 main jet

17.5 pilot jet

568 Y-6 Needle jet

1.1 air jet

XRR guys are using:

140 main jet

25 pilot

Y-4 Needle jet

1.2 air jet
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