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Old 02-29-2012, 08:40 PM   #166
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Yes, If I still owned an F8 I would change the damper regularly, perhaps half way between stator changes lol :)
Someone defined "comedy" as distorting reality ... by just the right amount ...
If you don't distort it quite enough no one laughs.
If you distort it too much they call you a sick bastard.

Your comment was "perfect comedy" ....

mind you ... I still think there is an outside chance you're a sick bastard,
but I'll withold judgement until we've had a few drinks together some time ....
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Old 02-29-2012, 09:41 PM   #167
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Someone defined "comedy" as distorting reality ... by just the right amount ...
If you don't distort it quite enough no one laughs.
If you distort it too much they call you a sick bastard.

Your comment was "perfect comedy" ....

mind you ... I still think there is an outside chance you're a sick bastard,
but I'll withold judgement until we've had a few drinks together some time ....
Sorry to kill the mystery, but I'm a sick bastard, all my x's have told me so, friends too.

Still, I could use that beer. Getting low on ramen noodles waiting for the new job to materialize lol.

P.S. I have unofficial help from the smartest guy at BMW I know RE the stator issue. Preliminary findings were a surprise but I will save it for another thread once the surprise is confirmed. And if it is, there is going to be a quick, cheap aftermarket fix.
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Old 03-01-2012, 04:21 AM   #168
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Sorry to kill the mystery, but I'm a sick bastard, all my x's have told me so, friends too.

Still, I could use that beer. Getting low on ramen noodles waiting for the new job to materialize lol.

P.S. I have unofficial help from the smartest guy at BMW I know RE the stator issue. Preliminary findings were a surprise but I will save it for another thread once the surprise is confirmed. And if it is, there is going to be a quick, cheap aftermarket fix.
At the risk of hi-jacking my own thread, is the tantalizing PS part of the Evil B. persona?.....


Cruel

So what's the potential timeline for confirmation: hours, days, weeks, months?
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Old 03-01-2012, 05:01 AM   #169
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At the risk of hi-jacking my own thread, is the tantalizing PS part of the Evil B. persona?.....


Cruel

So what's the potential timeline for confirmation: hours, days, weeks, months?
probably weeks assuming were right and the fix works. It is very important to me personally, and a brand I still care about not to add to confusion. I have to be sure were right.

This isn't a part of my evil side, just making sure I don't steer anyone in the wrong direction cause we could be wrong about the cause or the fix.

My evil side is more the popping connectors off of friends boxer coils, pouring salt in wounds, super glue on toilet seats, posting pictures online of the time we dressed a passed out friend in drag, you know, harmless stuff :)
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Old 03-01-2012, 05:08 AM   #170
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the time we dressed a passed out friend in drag, you know, harmless stuff :)
Your old boss?
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Old 03-01-2012, 05:11 AM   #171
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Your old boss?
LMAO I wish, did see him passed out several times, major missed opportunity lol
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Old 03-01-2012, 05:57 AM   #172
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... My evil side is more the popping connectors off of friends boxer coils, pouring salt in wounds, super glue on toilet seats, posting pictures online of the time we dressed a passed out friend in drag, you know, harmless stuff :)
Memo to file: When drinking with Joel ... it's important to know when to quit...
and to inspect toilet seats carefully

ramen noodles???
I thought the new job was in the bag ... requiring the purchase of the other bike and sale of the F800GS

I will anxiously be awaiting the news on the stator situation....
I'll bet it's a forehead slapper.............
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Old 03-01-2012, 06:54 AM   #173
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Now I gotta clean up the keyboard.... Thanks guys............

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Old 03-03-2012, 06:33 AM   #174
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1: The timing chain is NOT oil tensioned. If you look at the tensioner, oil pressure is not applying any significant force to the chain. The timing chain is oil damped....
I checked the torque on my sidecover and after 3 years of thermal cycling I was not surprised that the torque was just a bit low (~ 2Nm) on all the bolts, but it was evently torqued - none of the bolts were dramatically loose on my bike.

I got to see a new damper at my local dealer, but it was double-bagged and I could not play with it ....
It looks like there is a counterbored hole in one end with maybe what looks like a checkball in it but ....
can somebody tell me how the heck the damper actually "damps"

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Old 04-07-2012, 04:59 PM   #175
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Cam chain source

So if the 82 RH 2015 master link fits the OEM chain does it follow that the 82 RH 2015 chain would fit the F800? If so how many links? At 40K miles my cam chain is noisy when the engine is hot. I am all for OEM parts unless aftermarket is better. I am also not a fan of a 6 week wait for the OEM.

Hats off to Dieselboy and Chadams for blazing the trail I will soon be following.
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Old 04-07-2012, 05:31 PM   #176
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Part# |Description Total
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1/11117715438 SPRING $4.19
1/11317690475 TIMING CHAIN $84.39
1/11317689494 SLIDING PIECE $3.54
1/11317690493 CHAIN TENSIONER $10.80
1/11312343091 GASKET RING - 18,2X24X1 $0.62
1/11128520621 SET: GASKET SET, CYLINDER HEAD CO $68.97
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SubTotal: $172.51

And a master link from Z1 Enterprises. I have a chain breaker that has exchangeable pins.
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Old 04-07-2012, 05:46 PM   #177
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So if the 82 RH 2015 master link fits the OEM chain does it follow that the 82 RH 2015 chain would fit the F800? If so how many links? At 40K miles my cam chain is noisy when the engine is hot. I am all for OEM parts unless aftermarket is better. I am also not a fan of a 6 week wait for the OEM.

Hats off to Dieselboy and Chadams for blazing the trail I will soon be following.
6 weeks for a timing chain to the USA?!?!?!

For real 6 weeks?

It doesn't take 6 weeks to sail to Germany, and VOR comes air the whole way.

If this is for real I will text the USA parts boss an annoyed text, but first, for real 6 weeks?
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Old 04-07-2012, 05:56 PM   #178
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Joel, it is usually 5 to 7 weeks here in Mex if we need something from BMW Germany.
6 weeks isn't that unheard of.
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Old 04-07-2012, 07:33 PM   #179
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Joel, it is usually 5 to 7 weeks here in Mex if we need something from BMW Germany.
6 weeks isn't that unheard of.
Do they have to use camels to navigate your roads or something?
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Old 04-07-2012, 09:12 PM   #180
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No, it is just typical of BMW customer service in some places outside the USA where consumer protection and advocacy laws are different and corporations operate accordingly.
Why bother with after sales service? Getting aftermarket parts is difficult here sometimes with customs charges and hassles and Motorrad knows this.
6 weeks is nothing. I've been waiting for 2 and a half years for a reply from the office of Michel Gaudet, president of Motorrad Mexico in follow up.
But enough of that, I think this thread is going to save a lot of people a lot of problems and money and that is fantastic!
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