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Old 12-07-2012, 06:11 AM   #271
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If it is the same plug used for the BMW Navigation unit, the third wire is a data wire for that unit. I cut the data wire short and taped it, and plugged my Zumo to that circuit. On eBay, seller farms-amy sells them.

I only used the convenience of a plug once, when I unplugged it to move the Zumo wiring to my new bike.

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I was going to just cut off the plug end, solder it up, i can see no forcible reason why i would need to take it off.
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:07 PM   #272
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Finished wiring it up today. it is switched and goes off around 60secs after the bike is off.

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Old 12-13-2012, 11:59 AM   #273
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Look what I got in the mail today!! whyknotboats sold it to me and it will be my mission to fix it up for spring time when ill ride the Utah Backcountry Discovery Route. But whyknotboats found my thread and liked what I was doing with my bike so he reached out to me and wanted to know if this would be a project that I would want to take on. CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!

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The problems with the tank is that it has a hole plus a few stress fractures. It also is missing all fuel line hook ups and connectors as well as the cross-bar support. I ordered the cross bar from Touratech for $60 but it will take a month to get here. My plan for the fuel lines are to figure out a new way of connecting the TT Tank to the main tank, so there will be a lot of experimenting going on, and any ideas or help i can get would be great.

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Here is the real problem i see with this, the whole mounting point is crushed, so im taking the tank to an auto body shop to have it looked out because i think this will need to be beefed up. I talked with another inmate and he said the same crack happened with his tank and he tried fixing it with JB Weld and the next time he crash it started to leak again.

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There are also a few other things but they should be a problem.

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Old 12-13-2012, 06:51 PM   #274
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Well I took the tank to 6 auto body, custom motorcycle, and paint shops and only 1 said they might be able to fix it. They have a plastic welder and they think it should work, the problem most people are having is that all the stuff they would patch the hole with, the fuel will devolve it. So the guy should call me tomorrow and let me know if he can weld it.

But tonight i stripped off all the plastic, and installed the tank, kinda.

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I know people have been having a hard time finding a tank bag for the tank, but i have a Giant Loop Diablo and it fits great.

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All you have to do to fuel up is unzip one side of the bag and you can get to the fuel cap.

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Old 12-14-2012, 01:14 AM   #275
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That is going to be a bitch to repair, I doubt you will ever get it to hold up to being crashed afterwards.

That being said, the plastic weld should be made from the same base material, so it shouldn't dissolve with fuel either. What was that body shop going to use?
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:04 AM   #276
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That is going to be a bitch to repair, I doubt you will ever get it to hold up to being crashed afterwards.

That being said, the plastic weld should be made from the same base material, so it shouldn't dissolve with fuel either. What was that body shop going to use?
Well i live in a small town there is only 1 place that has a plastic welder, and all the other places only had stuff to fix bumpers (same material as the tank) but it would devolve in the fuel.

Anyone know anything about plastic welding?
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:10 AM   #277
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I do a little bit, I've got a kit and have used it to weld some parts incl. cracked motorcycle fairings.

Mine is basically a temp adjustable soldering iron, with a tip that has a hole were you feed the welding rods through, 2mm thick rods of the exact same plastic type. But first you "stitch" the weld by pushing into the plastic with the hot tip at an angle. And if you need to reinforce the piece in a structural application you use a metal gauze and melt that into the plastic, ideally with access from both sides.

What material is the tank made from? It will be marked somewhere on there. Since it's paintable it's definitely not PE, my guess would be some type of PA, maybe PA6.
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:19 AM   #278
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There was a fellow inmate that had similar issues, this past summer, and he was going to ask Touratech for the type of plastic used..... We did not hear back from his experience. I think you will be hard pressed to make it last. I have epoxy that will hold up fine to the ethanol/gas, but I am not sure it will have a good bite to the tank. Whatever adhesive you use, will tend to split away during stress, and heat cycles, as their thermal expansion coefficients most likely are not the same. If you were closer, and had no other options.....I'd give it a go..... But I don't think it would last.
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:22 AM   #279
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I am pretty sure that any part made from plastic in the EU must say what kind it is exactly, for recycling purposes.

Look for a sign, logo or number, and compare it with the charts you can find on the web:

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Old 12-14-2012, 07:25 AM   #280
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I do a little bit, I've got a kit and have used it to weld some parts incl. cracked motorcycle fairings.

Mine is basically a temp adjustable soldering iron, with a tip that has a hole were you feed the welding rods through, 2mm thick rods of the exact same plastic type. But first you "stitch" the weld by pushing into the plastic with the hot tip at an angle. And if you need to reinforce the piece in a structural application you use a metal gauze and melt that into the plastic, ideally with access from both sides.

What material is the tank made from? It will be marked somewhere on there. Since it's paintable it's definitely not PE, my guess would be some type of PA, maybe PA6.
Amazing! Someone who knows exactly what i need!

i believe its PA 06 or maybe P-06, i called Touratech and they said it was Polymide Nylon? does that look right?
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:32 AM   #281
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Amazing! Someone who knows exactly what i need!

i believe its PA 06 or maybe P-06, i called Touratech and they said it was Polymide Nylon? does that look right?
That would be PA 06, as in polyamide. Same stuff that KTM uses on some of their big bike tanks.

You should be able to find some rods locally pretty easily, check Ebay, McMaster Carr, TAP plastics etc. If not I can check with my supplier here.
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:33 AM   #282
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I am pretty sure that any part made from plastic in the EU must say what kind it is exactly, for recycling purposes.

Look for a sign, logo or number, and compare it with the charts you can find on the web:

it is PA-6, with a round recycle symbol with the #10 pointing at #7.
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:43 PM   #283
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Frankenbike indeed!!! Good luck man.
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Well i just got a quote back for the plastic welding, he said $250 and no warranty. I have no idea if that is a good deal or not. anyone ever had anything plastic welded?
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:41 PM   #285
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I took my bike apart tonight.

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This is the vent hose the the ADVTank hooks up to, is the little dangly thing a one way switch when the bike tips? I shouldnt have any trouble running the fuel this way right?

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