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Old 10-07-2011, 09:54 PM   #1
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BMW Navigator V on GSW

BSing with the dealer a couple days ago. Said he learned at the recent BMW conference that the Navigator V will be based on the zumo 665. He didn't have a release date.

Is it worth the wait or is it better to just go with the 665?
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Old 10-07-2011, 11:41 PM   #2
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If it is based on the 665, why not get the real deal? Also, why pay more for the BMW name? In my experience, if something is based on another item it is usually not as good. What is it about the previous BMW Navigators that made them so good?

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Old 10-08-2011, 07:48 AM   #3
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I have not owned a BMW Nav, but I admire those cradles with the big (real) buttons on the side.

This is the first I have heard of a Nav 5.
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Old 10-08-2011, 08:09 AM   #4
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I have the Zumo and have seen the BMW. I would not pay a premium to get the BMW version. Yes, it has some dials/buttons the Zumo doesn't. But are you really going to be manipulating the device while riding? If the answer is "No" (you'll program it at stop and follow the directions), I can't see where the extra buttons are worth the expense.
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Old 10-08-2011, 08:48 AM   #5
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I have the Zumo and have seen the BMW. I would not pay a premium to get the BMW version. Yes, it has some dials/buttons the Zumo doesn't. But are you really going to be manipulating the device while riding? If the answer is "No" (you'll program it at stop and follow the directions), I can't see where the extra buttons are worth the expense.

They may or may not be worth the expense, but here is my thinking:

I tend to zoom in and out a lot. I like to keep a sandard zoom at, say .2 miles, so I get the most detail. Then, if I see a side road or some other interesting thing, I like to zoom out to see where the road connects to, or if the road I am on goes all the way around the lake, etc.

This means I am touching the screen a lot and the more you touch it, the more it abrades. Additionally, sometimes I fumble touching the + or - to zoom and instead it drags the map and then I have to "go back" and then try to hit zoom again, which is kind of a pain.

So, although I have not made any decision to spend the extra $ to get the BMW Nav, the cradle with buttons does make it attractive to me.
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Old 10-08-2011, 08:57 AM   #6
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I have the Zumo and have seen the BMW. I would not pay a premium to get the BMW version. Yes, it has some dials/buttons the Zumo doesn't. But are you really going to be manipulating the device while riding? If the answer is "No" (you'll program it at stop and follow the directions), I can't see where the extra buttons are worth the expense.
I do it all the time on the old ones, love the buttons. Especially when playing music through it. Much easier than trying to use the touch screen. Buttons make it worth it for me.
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Old 10-08-2011, 09:23 AM   #7
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I purchased a BMW Nav III, but I don't really find myself using the four buttons on the cradle much, if at all. I would rather have the "civilian" version in a lockable Touratech cradle. Which is what I did. I picked up a used 2820 (civi version of the Nav III) and loaded the BMW dealer list onto it. I just use it at rest stops, very, very rarely when I am riding.
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:26 AM   #8
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You have the room for the GPS and XM puck? I don't so I run the 660 with a big micro-SD loaded with 1000 or so songs played in random order.

I have the BMW m/c dealer database updated by me (in MS Excel) where dealers give there NAV coordinates on the websites.

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Old 03-19-2013, 06:04 PM   #9
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Old 03-19-2013, 06:10 PM   #10
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If it is based on the 665, why not get the real deal? Also, why pay more for the BMW name? In my experience, if something is based on another item it is usually not as good. What is it about the previous BMW Navigators that made them so good?

Just my .02
If you are ordering the new wethead 1200GS with GPS prep, the Zumo 660/665 will not work with it. It will power up but that's it. You cannot control it from the switch gear (zoom in, zoom out, change pages and select various options) also the GPS will not set the clock on the bike, or receive a signal from the bike that the bike has hit reserve and it begins to display nearby gas stations... among other Nav IV exclusive features.
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Old 03-19-2013, 07:47 PM   #11
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This is significantly better than previous BMW modified Zumo's The integration with the GS switchgear allowing GPS control is getting closer to a reason to overpay for the BMW version. That said they would have to give me a great deal on the GS to make it happen, like throwing in the GPS like they have done in the past with promotions....maybe not likely with a new product, but down the road who knows...
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:02 PM   #12
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How much more does the BMW version cost?? The Zumo 66x are already retarded expensive.
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:33 AM   #13
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How much more does the BMW version cost?? The Zumo 66x are already retarded expensive.
The Nav IV lists for 899.

...plus another 136. to mount it on your BMW GS.
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:41 AM   #14
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If you are ordering the new wethead 1200GS with GPS prep, the Zumo 660/665 will not work with it. It will power up but that's it. You cannot control it from the switch gear (zoom in, zoom out, change pages and select various options) also the GPS will not set the clock on the bike, or receive a signal from the bike that the bike has hit reserve and it begins to display nearby gas stations... among other Nav IV exclusive features.
You are sure about this, 'cause I'm waiting to buy the latest version with the GPS prep on my LC.
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Old 03-20-2013, 09:08 AM   #15
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You are sure about this, 'cause I'm waiting to buy the latest version with the GPS prep on my LC.
Yes, that's right it needs to be the BMW navigator to be controlled by the spinning wheel on the bar, the standard garmin will only charge on the cradle.
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