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Old 10-08-2013, 09:52 AM   #1
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Shinko 705s on a GS?

I have searched with no real definitive answer, so if anyone can give some constructive/factual information on whether or not the Shinko 705 are suitable for the size/weight of the 1100/1150/1200 GS?

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Old 10-08-2013, 10:21 AM   #2
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The 705s got a bad rep when the earlier bias versions were prone to delamination, sometimes with ugly results. The radial version has not had any issues that I'm aware of. I've run them hard on my R12GS with no problems.
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Old 10-08-2013, 10:22 AM   #3
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I have searched with no real definitive answer, so if anyone can give some constructive/factual information on whether or not the Shinko 705 are suitable for the size/weight of the 1100/1150/1200 GS?

Thanks for any help.
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I have the radial 705 on my gs1200 and it is fine ( note there are two types of 705). Rear doesn't last super mileage but the front does. No problems with the ride or handling - but I'm a nanner in the rain any way.
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Old 10-08-2013, 10:25 AM   #4
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Actually, there are a few counts of the 705 radials failing too, especially on the heavier 1200GS ADV. Not nearly as many, but it still has happened. I think the biggest thing though against failure is don't run them at lower pressures at higher speeds for extended periods of time. That combination seems to be what kills them.

I've had one rear radial 705 fail on me (right at the end of its life) so I didn't make a big deal about it, but my buddy who commutes daily on a 1200GS Adv has had 2 rear 705 radials fail on him and he's about as easy as they come on tires. He mostly got tired of the crap mileage out of the rear though. 4500-5k was about what both of us were getting.

He's finally given up on the rear 705's and runs a front 705 (which last forever) with a rear Heidenau K60 Scout. Just to tell you how easy he is on tires, he got 17k out of his first K60 Scout he ran. Match that with a front 705 that easily goes 20k+ and you don't have to change tires very often.
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Old 10-08-2013, 10:56 AM   #5
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My buddy had a chunk of tread come off his radial 705 and he had about another 4000mi left on it. His is on a weestrom. I was going to get a set, but ordered a Full-Bore M40 rear for the same price. We'll see how it holds up.


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Old 10-08-2013, 11:03 AM   #6
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I'm on my 4th rear, 2nd front. My first front lasted roughly 15,000 miles. First and second rear between 7,000 and 8,000 miles each.

Second front is at about 11,000 miles and looks amazing. Third rear lasted 10,100 miles and I don't have much mileage on my 4th rear yet.

Definitely keep an eye on the pressure. I'm much more religious about my tire pressures this second time around and I attribute the longer life to keeping it right at 38 psi front and rear.

I haven't had any delamination issues with my radials.
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Old 10-08-2013, 11:11 AM   #7
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I kept seeing these reports on the Shinkos..pulled the trigger on Heidi's K 76's..should be here in the 'morrow..

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Old 10-08-2013, 11:24 AM   #8
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On my second set of 705 radials on my 2005 1200GS.
Getting 7K plus miles out of rear on increasingly crappy Cali roads and
likely 10k plus on the fronts.
I'm very happy with the handling.

Recommended!
The price is great.

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Old 10-08-2013, 11:42 AM   #9
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Ive only ran the rear 705 on my 1100gs, it was the non radial version, it was under $50 shipped ( this is a few years ago)

great tire, it lasted around 7000 miles on mostly pavement, with a few offroad forays. ( edit, the mileage was less than that, probably 5000-5500 that was before I kept good records on tires- before I realized the GS was going to eat them)
it worked great on the road, wet and dry, and worked surprisingly well off road, gravel and dirt too.

If they were still under $50 I would still be buying them.
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Old 10-08-2013, 12:14 PM   #10
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Shinko tires

Front, great lasted forever, cupped horribly.

Rear radial(s) not so good. I had two do this (see pic) cracks went nearly all the way around the tires. One tire had a few too many puncture repairs. I kept it for those just in case moments. It was replaced with a new 705 (this is the one pictured), it had about 3000 miles on it when the cracks appeared. I reinstalled the first tire and not long after it did the same thing. Motorcyclesuper store and shinko were good and gave me credit for the second tire. I didn't complain about the first tire as it had been punctured several times and was older.

If they can get rid of the cracking issue I'd use them again because apart from the cracking I did like them especially for the price. I now run Bridgestone Battlewings which cost a bit more but do everything I want them to. I also get to wear them out.



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Old 10-08-2013, 02:11 PM   #11
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Front, great lasted forever, cupped horribly.

Rear radial(s) not so good. I had two do this (see pic) cracks went nearly all the way around the tires. One tire had a few too many puncture repairs. I kept it for those just in case moments. It was replaced with a new 705 (this is the one pictured), it had about 3000 miles on it when the cracks appeared. I reinstalled the first tire and not long after it did the same thing. Motorcyclesuper store and shinko were good and gave me credit for the second tire. I didn't complain about the first tire as it had been punctured several times and was older.

If they can get rid of the cracking issue I'd use them again because apart from the cracking I did like them especially for the price. I now run Bridgestone Battlewings which cost a bit more but do everything I want them to. I also get to wear them out.



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Pictures like this show that even the radials still have problems. I tried the 705 on a KLR about 4 years ago and the rear looked exactly like that.

No way in hell would I run such a questionable tire on a $15k motorcycle but that's just me.

Cheap tires are OK on trail bikes but not on ginormous dual sports. And if these last 5k miles (or less if they self destruct) and an Anakee lasts 9k miles, then they really cost exactly the same, with less hassle, fewer mounting fees, and more peace of mind not wondering if your tire is going to shit it's self 700 miles from home.
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Old 10-08-2013, 04:39 PM   #12
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How long ago was this? I agree I've noticed cupping on the front, though I've noticed no issues on my rear tires. How much weight on your bike? Maybe it's a load issue? For reference, I commute 20 miles daily riding solo with little weight most days(I weight 170). I do have my 110lb girlfriend on back typically for 100 miles each week.


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Front, great lasted forever, cupped horribly.

Rear radial(s) not so good. I had two do this (see pic) cracks went nearly all the way around the tires. One tire had a few too many puncture repairs. I kept it for those just in case moments. It was replaced with a new 705 (this is the one pictured), it had about 3000 miles on it when the cracks appeared. I reinstalled the first tire and not long after it did the same thing. Motorcyclesuper store and shinko were good and gave me credit for the second tire. I didn't complain about the first tire as it had been punctured several times and was older.

If they can get rid of the cracking issue I'd use them again because apart from the cracking I did like them especially for the price. I now run Bridgestone Battlewings which cost a bit more but do everything I want them to. I also get to wear them out.


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Old 10-08-2013, 05:26 PM   #13
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I got just over 6000 solid (mostly spirited pavement) miles out of a rear 705 radial on my 1150 and it probably had a few hundred more left in it, but the front Tourance was shot, so I replaced both - with new Shinko 705 radials. I'd read about the tread cracking/separation issues (mostly on the older non-radials) so I was very careful to not let the pressure get low... kept it at 42 lbs. Never had any problems whatsoever. No cracks... no tread separation. I was very happy with the handling/traction on-road and off. I scrubbed in the new set this past weekend - including some dirt/gravel roads and they work great! Considering the new SET cost me $143.90 shipped from Ron Ayers, I don't think I could do better.

Here's what my rear looked like after it came off after 6000+ miles:


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Here is my old rear tire, it had 5000 +/- 1000 on it

the new tire is a big bore M40, im liking it so far ( about 100 miles on it) ( very similar tire, about same cost, more space between the center strip lugs though)

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Old 10-08-2013, 08:51 PM   #15
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How long ago was this? I agree I've noticed cupping on the front, though I've noticed no issues on my rear tires. How much weight on your bike? Maybe it's a load issue? For reference, I commute 20 miles daily riding solo with little weight most days(I weight 170). I do have my 110lb girlfriend on back typically for 100 miles each week.
Both cases happened after several hundred mile slab trips. Both times I was solo with some luggage (not heavy). Tires were kept at 42psi. First cafe happened about 14 months ago. The second a year ago. Normal usage is two up all road types and speeds (not high).
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