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Old 03-20-2013, 08:19 AM   #16
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Whatever happened to the rumors of the Montana being the next BMW nav?
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:47 AM   #17
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This is significantly better than previous BMW modified Zumo's The integration with the GS switchgear allowing GPS control is getting closer to a reason to overpay for the BMW version. That said they would have to give me a great deal on the GS to make it happen, like throwing in the GPS like they have done in the past with promotions....maybe not likely with a new product, but down the road who knows...
You also get a three year warranty versus the one with garmin.
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Old 03-20-2013, 10:21 AM   #18
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You are sure about this, 'cause I'm waiting to buy the latest version with the GPS prep on my LC.
I've often wondered if you could just get the latest BMW Nav firmware and load it into the equivalent 660/665 and then have your 66x work correctly with the BMW mount.

It seems pretty unlikely that Garmin is actually modifying the hardware of the 66x for BMW. It seems much more likely that it's just a matter of having the correct firmware.
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Old 03-20-2013, 10:32 AM   #19
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I've often wondered if you could just get the latest BMW Nav firmware and load it into the equivalent 660/665 and then have your 66x work correctly with the BMW mount.

It seems pretty unlikely that Garmin is actually modifying the hardware of the 66x for BMW. It seems much more likely that it's just a matter of having the correct firmware.
That won't work. BMW have made sure of that
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Old 03-20-2013, 10:37 AM   #20
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You are sure about this, 'cause I'm waiting to buy the latest version with the GPS prep on my LC.
Yes, I bought it only because I wanted to have full functionality on my K1600 with the bike's GPS prep. The GS has the same arrangement. On the K1600 there's another feature, if you enable the security feature on the GPS of VIN match, the unit will remain locked unless it's in the bike's cradle and receives the VIN from the bike on which it's intended to be used on. (Dunno if this feature is available on the LC GS).

If you're getting GPS prep on the LC GS, I would hold my nose and order a Nav IV, then purchase lifetime map updates.

The BMW exclusive cradle that I use on another bike with dedicated hard buttons is nice to have over screen positioned buttons.

I wouldn't spend the extra $$ to use it only as a stand alone gps.
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Old 03-20-2013, 10:56 AM   #21
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Wouldn't enabling that VIN security feature mean you couldn't run it in your car or while sitting in a camp site?
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Old 03-20-2013, 11:18 AM   #22
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I wouldn't spend the extra $$ to use it only as a stand alone gps.
So for give the presumably obvious question here.

Can the Navigator IV be used as a stand alone GPS? What is meant by the your statement I quoted?

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Old 03-20-2013, 11:22 AM   #23
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Wouldn't enabling that VIN security feature mean you couldn't run it in your car or while sitting in a camp site?
You turn off the security feature if you're using it on another bike or car.. Zumo has a sign in PIN security feature that you could enable.. the VIN security handshake eliminates you having to input a PIN. I never bothered with that feature.

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So for give the presumably obvious question here.

Can the Navigator IV be used as a stand alone GPS? What is meant by the your statement I quoted?

Thanks
yes, I use it as a stand alone GPS in the car and on another bike, but if I didn't need it to be integrated with the bike's GPS prep / switch gear, I wouldn't have bought one.
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Old 03-20-2013, 11:33 AM   #24
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Thanks.

I currently have a well used and still quite serviceable Garmin 376c. But I will be getting a new Water Head in the future and am seriously thinking of getting the Navigator with it for all the reasons you mentioned.

I also was seeing it as a solution to take the new GPS with me when I travel for my job when I fly out of town and use rental cars. It is so much more compact than the 376c and would be easier to transport in a brief case.

What is the 'extra money' required though? That is the part I am confused with. Is it just a bean bag or suction cup mount and 12v cig plug that would be needed? Or is it something more significant.
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Old 03-20-2013, 11:48 AM   #25
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Doesn't the BMW Nav also integrate with the voice commands via the Schuberth C3?
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Old 03-20-2013, 12:26 PM   #26
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If you're getting GPS prep on the LC GS, I would hold my nose and order a Nav IV, then purchase lifetime map updates.

The BMW exclusive cradle that I use on another bike with dedicated hard buttons is nice to have over screen positioned buttons.

I wouldn't spend the extra $$ to use it only as a stand alone gps.
Ok, thanks for the info. Will order the IV
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Old 03-20-2013, 12:40 PM   #27
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Ok, thanks for the info. Will order the IV
I have a IV and would rather have a Zumo with stelite radio than the cradle and have to upload music. I use a Scala and it's either the GPS or the IPhone streaming from Pandora. It can make it very boring -to me at least- to ride for hrs with limited music choices. I see the point of zooming in and out etc funny thing is that I have yet to use it. I guess I err on the safe side and if I need to punch anything I pull over.
The Zumo with the Touratech mount would have saved me at least $400.
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Old 03-20-2013, 01:17 PM   #28
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Nav IV is based on the Zumo 660. Zumo 665 adds satellite radio option, but the thought of paying $10 or $12 a month for satellite radio didn't appeal to me. I was given a year's free subscription with the K1600, but did not renew. I can buy a couple of micro SD memory cards, load them with thousands of songs and then stream in stereo bluetooth to my Sena headset.

Just a caveat: if you're ordering the new LC GS, and you're paying for GPS prep, the Zumo's will power up but won't be controlled by the switch gear. Just saving you a rant later. It's a simple firmware difference but Garmin and BMW will not provide it to make the Zumo compatible.
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Old 03-21-2013, 01:16 PM   #29
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Whatever happened to the rumors of the Montana being the next BMW nav?
Count on this guys, Montana should be the new NAV 5, not the 665. I even have a picture to prove it
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Old 03-21-2013, 02:20 PM   #30
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I have a IV and would rather have a Zumo with stelite radio than the cradle and have to upload music. I use a Scala and it's either the GPS or the IPhone streaming from Pandora. It can make it very boring -to me at least- to ride for hrs with limited music choices. I see the point of zooming in and out etc funny thing is that I have yet to use it. I guess I err on the safe side and if I need to punch anything I pull over.
The Zumo with the Touratech mount would have saved me at least $400.
Never had any music on my bikes... All tough I think that some traffic information would be a nice welcome on the bike as well.
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