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Old 10-12-2011, 02:55 PM   #31
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A Kawasaki " Ulysses"
pretty much.
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Old 10-12-2011, 03:05 PM   #32
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Or a Kawasaki Multistrada. That engine (in the Ninja 1000) has a delightful mid-range....
Might be a nice bike.
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Old 10-12-2011, 03:13 PM   #33
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there is an obvious split happening with these large upright bikes.
the mfg are either going more road-multi oriented
or more 1200 GS segment oriented.

i do like how the japanese are putting better quality suspension and brakes on these newer bikes. the japanese tend to mimic each other, so this is a good sign of components to come

True on both points. For my personal riding style, the heavily road biased bikes suit me best. I like to charge hard whether I'm on road or off road and the gigantic off road biased adv bikes don't work as well anywhere for me. I like sticky 17" rubber on my road bikes and full 21" knobbies on my dirt bikes. I don't try to do both on the same bike. I realize different riders and different missions/locations make GS-Advs/S10s, etc. make sense, though I suspect that's pretty rare. Basically I want a v2 superbike with a comfy seat, room for 2 and 6" of wheel travel to soak up the bumpy roads.

As a matter of note, the Japanese have long (since at least the 1980s) had good if not the best suspension on their competition bikes. They know how to do suspension and brakes at a world-class level, its just a matter of whether they see fit to spec the stuff on their non-competition machines.
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Old 10-12-2011, 03:48 PM   #34
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Or a Kawasaki Multistrada. That engine (in the Ninja 1000) has a delightful mid-range....
Might be a nice bike.
yep same segment...upright touring bike with roots based in adv bikes rather than sport touring bikes.

so many 1200GS sell because they are comfortable and fast and can carry a boatload of stuff. bmw knows that a very large percentage of their owners never go into the dirt.

kawasaki is going after that same type of owner as they have with the smaller 650 versys and keeping the klr as their adv/ds bike.

in a sense, i'm kinda glad kawasaki did not make the 1000 an adv bike as this keeps the door open to produce an adv 650 twin bike. i think if this bike was their adv bike, then the better suited 650 motor based bike might never come to be. in the end the klr is not the end of the line for kawasaki so something has to come out in the future.
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Old 10-12-2011, 04:33 PM   #35
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yep same segment...upright touring bike with roots based in adv bikes rather than sport touring bikes.

.......so many 1200GS sell because they are comfortable and fast and can carry a boatload of stuff.
I think they are finding out that real people want comfortable bikes to ride longer distances. The sport bike hunch is NOT comfortable for more than an hour. Even some of the sport touring bikes have a pretty good lean to them, hence Heli bars etc.

It's part of the reason I chose the Vstrom over the Concours 14 I was planning to buy, the Strom was just more comfortable, plus it weighed a LOT less.

I'm very happy to see Kawi coming out with this, let's just hope it makes it to the USA market. And yes, I think it belongs here in the Beasts section, just as much as the Tiger 1050 does.
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Old 10-12-2011, 06:39 PM   #36
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I think they are finding out that real people want comfortable bikes to ride longer distances. The sport bike hunch is NOT comfortable for more than an hour. Even some of the sport touring bikes have a pretty good lean to them, hence Heli bars etc.

It's part of the reason I chose the Vstrom over the Concours 14 I was planning to buy, the Strom was just more comfortable, plus it weighed a LOT less.

I'm very happy to see Kawi coming out with this, let's just hope it makes it to the USA market. And yes, I think it belongs here in the Beasts section, just as much as the Tiger 1050 does.
I'll vote for that. I think manufactures are starting to wake up and send us something we can ride farther then the coffee shop. I hope this trend continues.
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Old 10-12-2011, 07:26 PM   #37
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....It's an asphalt adventure bike.
Right, like 99% of the other Adv Bikes...tarmac only!!!
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in a sense, i'm kinda glad kawasaki did not make the 1000 an adv bike as this keeps the door open to produce an adv 650 twin bike. i think if this bike was their adv bike, then the better suited 650 motor based bike might never come to be. in the end the klr is not the end of the line for kawasaki so something has to come out in the future.
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Old 10-12-2011, 07:52 PM   #39
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I have often thought that my DL1000 would be perfect if I could stick a GSXR1000 motor in without altering the width of the bike. This versys may be close... the styling is not exactly kind to the eyes though
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trust me dude, i'm not holding my breath.
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Old 10-12-2011, 08:02 PM   #41
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Or a Kawasaki Multistrada. That engine (in the Ninja 1000) has a delightful mid-range....
Might be a nice bike.
or a Honda CrossRunner competitor...
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:45 AM   #43
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or a Honda CrossRunner competitor...
yeah that's another new adv street bike.
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As a matter of note, the Japanese have long (since at least the 1980s) had good if not the best suspension on their competition bikes. They know how to do suspension and brakes at a world-class level, its just a matter of whether they see fit to spec the stuff on their non-competition machines.
i think part of that problem over time has been the lower price points the Japanese must meet as people were expecting it...thus they have to cut somewhere. that mentality is changing on both the consumer & mfg side.
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