New Kawasaki Versys 1000 in 2012 - Page 4

GrahamD · 10-13-2011, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by eakins

i think part of that problem over time has been the lower price points the Japanese must meet as people were expecting it...thus they have to cut somewhere. that mentality is changing on both the consumer & mfg side.

I agree and I hope so.

bikefree · 10-13-2011, 02:52 AM

What part of this bike makes it in any way a dual sport or adventure bike?

GrahamD · 10-13-2011, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bikefree

What part of this bike makes it in any way a dual sport or adventure bike?

No more than a Ducati Multistrada, Standard Tiger800, Wee-Strom, etc etc.

Should we move all of them OR is it the cylinder count that determines it?

Paulvt1 · 10-13-2011, 04:01 AM

I reckon if it's got high bars and a big tank - it's an ADV bike (sort of). I guess a lot of the bikes are road only - but given that most of our roads are pot holed and covered with crap, then they qualify. For me, the fact that this class is gaining new models of any variety and capability is good. Sports and Sports Tourers are giving way to this class - so to attract new customers the mfgs need a broad spread of performance.
Anyway - we haven't even seen the specs of the bike yet.

Rema in Paluda · 10-13-2011, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by eakins

yeah man i know that.
dude my point was Triumph created a road focused bike with the 1050 version (the girlie could do dirt) as they felt most Tiger owners wanted a road bike. now they've gone back to the beast formula (19" fr & 150-17" r) with the new one.

i know your posting here because you can't wait to oooze on how the S10 is the greatest bike in the world (and so much better than this new bike), as that all your posts ever seem to be.

Assumption is the mother of all fuck-ups, and she just held your hand...

I'm not favouring 1 bike, i've got a shed full of different marques, Beta Motor Morini Honda Susuki Derbi Yamaha, sold the Bimota to finance the S10 though...

I would really like to see Kwak doing its own Allroad, instaed of rebadging a V-STrom, and Triumph go back to the greatness of the Original Triumph, which did sleepover in my Old shed :-)

So i hope the Kwak will be more like this, then another DR-Big look alike :-)

Zapp22 · 10-13-2011, 06:06 AM

just try riding each one of them on a rough dirt road with generous potholes having sharp edges, mud pits, loose limbs here and there, and a steep downhill strewn with rocks.
that will sort which ones are doable for adv. the consensus up to this point is that versys ain't. its a small tigger 1050.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrahamD

No more than a Ducati Multistrada, Standard Tiger800, Wee-Strom, etc etc.

Should we move all of them OR is it the cylinder count that determines it?

GrahamD · 10-13-2011, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Zapp22

just try riding each one of them on a rough dirt road with generous potholes having sharp edges, mud pits, loose limbs here and there, and a steep downhill strewn with rocks.
that will sort which ones are doable for adv. the consensus up to this point is that versys ain't. its a small tigger 1050.

The old 650 Versys is here, the new one is all theory at the moment. Time will tell I suppose.

Outwardbound · 10-13-2011, 08:53 AM

The Kwak'ers are no fools. They watched "social media" sites like this when we were petitioning Yamaha to bring he SuperTen. It 'prolly took a couple engineers 2 weeks to splice the big lump into a Versys, then they 'leaked' a couple pix to watch the reaction. Instant (and cheap) market analysis.
Certainly hope they're reading the thread about the V-based KLR......... THAT would be an instant winner.

Personally (if anyone's listening) I love it.

eakins · 10-13-2011, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Outwardbound

The Kwak'ers are no fools. They watched "social media" sites like this when we were petitioning Yamaha to bring he SuperTen. It 'prolly took a couple engineers 2 weeks to splice the big lump into a Versys, then they 'leaked' a couple pix to watch the reaction. Instant (and cheap) market analysis.
Certainly hope they're reading the thread about the V-based KLR......... THAT would be an instant winner.

Personally (if anyone's listening) I love it.

here here on the KLR twin!!!
just fix the suspension too.

i've been on a versys and that is a spunky little engine.
i really like the 800gs and 800xc but prefer living with what the Japanese bring to the table

CanadianTiger · 10-13-2011, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bikefree

What part of this bike makes it in any way a dual sport or adventure bike?

Hey, Bikefree... with a name like that, do you even own a bike? If you don't, I don't think your comment has much weight....

SayItAintSo · 10-13-2011, 12:38 PM

Long legged, high power, standard bike with hard bags, just like the old Tiger, the Uly, the Multi, the new 1200 Tiger, the new Honda......... and now this. They really do fit what many guys are looking for in a bike.

I bet they are fairly good for the bottom line of the bike companies too.

pluric · 10-13-2011, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bikefree

What part of this bike makes it in any way a dual sport or adventure bike?

If these guys can do this on a Harley, it ain't the bike that makes the adventure.

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/forwood/

NDTransplant · 10-13-2011, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bikefree

What part of this bike makes it in any way a dual sport or adventure bike?

I would have to wonder the same thing. The bike looks like ass, and chances are it won't even make it to the US. What is so exciting about a 4-cylinder Versys-styled bike? Put some bar risers on a Z1000.

GrahamD · 10-13-2011, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NDTransplant

I would have to wonder the same thing. The bike looks like ass, and chances are it won't even make it to the US. What is so exciting about a 4-cylinder Versys-styled bike? Put some bar risers on a Z1000.

And some different suspension. Anyway don't burst the bubble for the 1/4 mile Adventurers OK.

The Poms like that sort of thing.

Paulvt1 · 10-13-2011, 02:15 PM

Just watched that Nick Sanders R1 video.

Knobblies. meh - i've shit 'em.

10-13-2011, 02:52 AM	#47
bikefree misadventurer Joined: May 2008 Location: Atlanta Oddometer: 256	This thread needs to be moved to Road Warriors What part of this bike makes it in any way a dual sport or adventure bike? __________________ I don't know! I don't know why I did it, I don't know why I enjoyed it, and I don't know why I'll do it again! Bart Simpson

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10-13-2011, 04:01 AM	#49
Paulvt1 Beastly Adventurer Joined: Mar 2004 Location: Wolverhampton. England. Oddometer: 2,811	I reckon if it's got high bars and a big tank - it's an ADV bike (sort of). I guess a lot of the bikes are road only - but given that most of our roads are pot holed and covered with crap, then they qualify. For me, the fact that this class is gaining new models of any variety and capability is good. Sports and Sports Tourers are giving way to this class - so to attract new customers the mfgs need a broad spread of performance. Anyway - we haven't even seen the specs of the bike yet.

10-13-2011, 08:53 AM	#53
Outwardbound Studly Adventurer Joined: Jan 2005 Location: Strongsville, OH Oddometer: 621	The Kwak'ers are no fools. They watched "social media" sites like this when we were petitioning Yamaha to bring he SuperTen. It 'prolly took a couple engineers 2 weeks to splice the big lump into a Versys, then they 'leaked' a couple pix to watch the reaction. Instant (and cheap) market analysis. Certainly hope they're reading the thread about the V-based KLR......... THAT would be an instant winner. Personally (if anyone's listening) I love it.

10-13-2011, 12:38 PM	#56
SayItAintSo Wanna be Joined: Oct 2008 Location: Tallahassee, FL Oddometer: 129	Long legged, high power, standard bike with hard bags, just like the old Tiger, the Uly, the Multi, the new 1200 Tiger, the new Honda......... and now this. They really do fit what many guys are looking for in a bike. I bet they are fairly good for the bottom line of the bike companies too.

10-13-2011, 02:15 PM	#60
Paulvt1 Beastly Adventurer Joined: Mar 2004 Location: Wolverhampton. England. Oddometer: 2,811	Just watched that Nick Sanders R1 video. Knobblies. meh - i've shit 'em.