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Old 04-19-2013, 04:59 PM   #1966
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We've got plenty of hills out here so I'm routinely hitting between 35 and 40 on the downhills on ratty asphalt (tone it down for gravel ya know) on the slicks and still never had a flat. I have gotten some stone cuts in the tires and it's time for new ones, but no flats. I must have gotten some extra special tubes or somthing .

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Wow. You just jinxed yourself! Now you'll have five flats in the next two days.
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Old 04-19-2013, 06:06 PM   #1967
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I pay to use the roads, why should you use them for free? I think $25/year per bicycle is fair.

I pay to use the roads as well with all the BS taxes that are levied against all 7 of my fuel powered vehicles. I will not license my bike to use the roads any sooner than I will license my shoes to walk down a sidewalk.
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Old 04-19-2013, 06:07 PM   #1968
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That's just good common sense....

Your posts are so fucking ironic that I may burst if you continue posting!!!
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Old 04-19-2013, 06:11 PM   #1969
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We'll go down this road again...

So... exactly how much wear and tear does a bicycle + rider put on the roads?

Next stupid question: where exactly is it this $25 is going? How much to cover the govt agency needed to design/issue/monitor the whatever you get when you pay your $25? How much is actually left over to do anything? *IF* I thought paying a fee for my bicycle would actually do something, I'd be for it. Otherwise?

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He's the "I love Big Brother" type. Me? I like a small government with very little intrusion. Take your insured and registered bicycle bit and stick it.

Tell you what...I would concede if they built a nationwide bicycle specific highway/byway system and put bike specific roads in all metro areas. Deal?
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Old 04-19-2013, 06:16 PM   #1970
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He's the "I love Big Brother" type. Me? I like a small government with very little intrusion. Take your insured and registered bicycle bit and stick it.

Tell you what...I would concede if they built a nationwide bicycle specific highway/byway system and put bike specific roads in all metro areas. Deal?
On one hand, that sounds fantastic. On the other, we're road users and shouldn't be treated 'separate but equal.'

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Old 04-19-2013, 06:17 PM   #1971
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....5mph, on ONE WHEEL in the centre of your lane or even worse in the ONCOMING lane.Yes WHEELIES .

What is the preferred method for doing a wheelie while in traffic?
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Old 04-19-2013, 06:19 PM   #1972
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On one hand, that sounds fantastic. On the other, we're road users and shouldn't be treated 'separate but equal.'

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True but it sure would be fun to have a bicycle overpass over every intersection wouldn't it? Sure would cut down on having to run lights.
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Old 04-19-2013, 06:46 PM   #1973
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True but it sure would be fun to have a bicycle overpass over every intersection wouldn't it? Sure would cut down on having to run lights.
Another hill to pant over? Ummm ... rather wait for the lights. Makes time for a drink.
Some places it would be better to have an underpass ... would save climbing up to the lights and descending one the other side. Ideally it could take all the through traffic away from that intersection at the same time (share and share alike).

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Old 04-20-2013, 05:22 AM   #1975
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I pay to use the roads, why should you use them for free? I think $25/year per bicycle is fair.
Let me guess - you are an elected official?
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Old 04-20-2013, 05:55 AM   #1976
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Let me guess - you are an elected official?

In my opinion bicycle riders should be treated stricter. I have never seen a cop fining a cyclist here for having no lights, performing stunts, riding on the wrong side of the road, and other silly stuff. Part of this is because bicycles are not registered so the cyclist knows there can be no real record of their abuse of the roads. In my opinion cyclists should be forced to register (for free or for a small administrative charge) and to prove they are proficient by passing the equivalent of a CBT /MSF course... Maybe then people would be more responsible. Is this the same in the US as it is here in the UK with cops being too lenient towards cyclists?
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In my opinion bicycle riders should be treated stricter. I have never seen a cop fining a cyclist here for having no lights, performing stunts, riding on the wrong side of the road, and other silly stuff. Part of this is because bicycles are not registered so the cyclist knows there can be no real record of their abuse of the roads. In my opinion cyclists should be forced to register (for free or for a small administrative charge) and to prove they are proficient by passing the equivalent of a CBT /MSF course... Maybe then people would be more responsible. Is this the same in the US as it is here in the UK with cops being too lenient towards cyclists?
Did you not read the article that I linked to above?



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Old 04-20-2013, 06:44 AM   #1978
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I still stand by what I said... In my opinion all road users no matter what they drive or ride on should demonstrate they know how to stay safe. To say that it is being oppressive to ensure safety is like saying it is an insult on your personal freedoms to be forced to wear a seatbelt or helmet - both are simply common sense...

Speaking from personal experience every day I encounter cyclists flouting the law not having lights, not riding in the right lane and almost exclusively these "scofflaws" as your report calls them are teenage kids... Not "spandex wearing" adults. The offenders need to be properly educated in road safety. Do you let your kids go across roads without teaching them to stop, look and listen? Why would anyone advocate taking a bike to the roads with not even instruction to look where you want to go, or use hand signals???

There is the crux of my uk-centric rant...
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.... an insult on your personal freedoms to be forced to wear a seatbelt or helmet - both are simply common sense...
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It is. The key word being "forced".


If I want to be safe then it should be my choice just as not being safe should also be my choice. The gray area being if my lack of safety endangers the safety of someone else.


By the way, cyclists here in South FL will get tickets for light running , not having lights at night, etc just as they should. Never heard of anyone getting a ticket for wheelies thankfully or I would have a stack of them.
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I still stand by what I said... In my opinion all road users no matter what they drive or ride on should demonstrate they know how to stay safe. To say that it is being oppressive to ensure safety is like saying it is an insult on your personal freedoms to be forced to wear a seatbelt or helmet - both are simply common sense...

Speaking from personal experience every day I encounter cyclists flouting the law not having lights, not riding in the right lane and almost exclusively these "scofflaws" as your report calls them are teenage kids... Not "spandex wearing" adults. The offenders need to be properly educated in road safety. Do you let your kids go across roads without teaching them to stop, look and listen? Why would anyone advocate taking a bike to the roads with not even instruction to look where you want to go, or use hand signals???

There is the crux of my uk-centric rant...
I do believe that your teenage scofflaws already know the rules. They just don't give a shite whether they break them or not.

Further education on 'the rules of the road' would do what exactly with these kids?

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