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Old 05-19-2013, 01:58 PM   #2131
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The local club has a century ride each year that goes up and down the N.E. seacoast. It draws 1500 riders and is spread over two days. It's just after the usual season, but many of the roads are congested no matter what, and you encounter cars quite often that won't go around unless they can get the whole lane on the other side, and they don't move at all if there is d. yellow. Most participants are pretty good about moving over and warning other riders that cars are approaching, but you can sense the general frustration from some of the drivers as they squeeze by in some of the narrow roads.
It didn't help that last year someone decided that one of the century ride days would be a good day to have a bicycle road race on some of the same roads. Me and several other century participants ended up stopped for a good 10 minutes with a bunch of cars while the race turned onto the road we were on.
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Old 05-19-2013, 02:36 PM   #2132
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Just a nit picky note, Centuries are "rides" not races. Totally different animals. What century ride was this? Most don't have enough riders to clog up the whole road for 20miles! That's a lot of people. I've done rides with 7,000 riders that didn't clog the road like what you're describing. Usually big rides like that will stagger the starts so that they don't clump like that and if there are any hills they usually spread out pretty quick.
Santa Fe Century according to the signage. There are plenty of big hills on the route, and there were still a ton of riders clumped everywhere! There were easily a thousand plus. Biggest one I've ever seen in NM.
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:05 AM   #2133
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I'm a cyclist, but I'm not sure how I feel about races like this WITHOUT CLOSING THE ROAD! Yes, traffic was fairly light, but it's also in the middle of nowhere where people like to do 60-70 MPH on a 45 MPH road!
Closing the road comes with its own set of problems. Cops. Signs. $ for all the above. Irate 'neighbors.' etc

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Interesting experience though. Really demonstrated drivers' inability to use space that exists and is clear, simply because of some paint on the road...
OMG! I can't pass here! Its a DY!!

Ah well. Its only one day. Too bad lots of those people are going to have a negative impression of cyclists from ONE DAY out of the 365 available to drive that road.

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Old 05-20-2013, 08:19 AM   #2134
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Ah well. Its only one day. Too bad lots of those people are going to have a negative impression of cyclists from ONE DAY out of the 365 available to drive that road.

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Can you imagine how people in Boston feel about the marathon?
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:35 AM   #2135
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Can you imagine how people in Boston feel about the marathon?
Pretty much ANYthing that gets in the way of the lowest common denominator getting from A to B is to be hated.

Its a shame that people can't put themselves in someone else's shoes, but that seems to be 'life.' Would YOU like to be buzzed by a 2+ ton hunk of metal and plastic going 4x your speed? Probably not.

Would YOU like to have someone pass you unsafely? Doubt it.

etc etc etc

What makes you think that *I* want to have any of that happen? You're going to 'save' a few seconds and potentially impact not only my life and your life, but the lives of other road-users as well? ...and that makes sense?!

One of the things that runs thru my head pretty regularly: Well, I'm glad YOU can see thru that hill, 'cause *I* certainly can't. Glad there wasn't anything coming this time too!

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Old 05-20-2013, 09:12 AM   #2136
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Last week I pulled up to a four way intersection with stop signs at each corner. There was a truck to my right who arrived before I did and no other cars. So, the guy in the truck is looking left at me to make sure I don't go and starts to go forward. Next, is the good about a bicyclist. He was on the bicycle path and was wearing a helmet Now the bad. As the previously mentioned truck starts to pull forward, the bicycle, who is to the right of the truck, decides he really doesn't need to stop at the intesection and just about became a hood ornament on the truck! Fortunately, the truck guy seen him at the last minute and stopped in time. The reaction from the bicyclist?
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:19 AM   #2137
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Last week I pulled up to a four way intersection with stop signs at each corner. There was a truck to my right who arrived before I did and no other cars. So, the guy in the truck is looking left at me to make sure I don't go and starts to go forward. Next, is the good about a bicyclist. He was on the bicycle path and was wearing a helmet Now the bad. As the previously mentioned truck starts to pull forward, the bicycle, who is to the right of the truck, decides he really doesn't need to stop at the intesection and just about became a hood ornament on the truck! Fortunately, the truck guy seen him at the last minute and stopped in time. The reaction from the bicyclist?
The bicyclist obviously still thought he was a pedestrian, which he was not. Bicycles are vehicles in the eyes of the law, and subject to the same regulations as motor vehicles. If you're off the bike and walking it, THEN you're a pedestrian.
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:07 AM   #2138
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The bicyclist obviously still thought he was a pedestrian, which he was not. Bicycles are vehicles in the eyes of the law, and subject to the same regulations as motor vehicles. If you're off the bike and walking it, THEN you're a pedestrian.

It was one of those things that you can see developing and not a thing you can do about it. Fortunately, this time it turned out okay for the bicyclist, next time he might not be so lucky.
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:18 AM   #2139
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Last week I pulled up to a four way intersection with stop signs at each corner. There was a truck to my right who arrived before I did and no other cars. So, the guy in the truck is looking left at me to make sure I don't go and starts to go forward. Next, is the good about a bicyclist. He was on the bicycle path and was wearing a helmet Now the bad. As the previously mentioned truck starts to pull forward, the bicycle, who is to the right of the truck, decides he really doesn't need to stop at the intesection and just about became a hood ornament on the truck! Fortunately, the truck guy seen him at the last minute and stopped in time. The reaction from the bicyclist?
Now, are you talking about a 'cyclist' or some schmoe on a bike?

There IS a difference.

The schmoe on a bike is basically a fast-moving ped and thinks that way.



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Old 05-20-2013, 11:44 AM   #2140
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The really annoying thing is that it does seem like the schmos outnumber the rest of us sometimes.
just for the record, I do stop at stop signs and lights. (ok, at signs it's sometimes a slow roll ).
A couple of years ago, I was starting to cross a street with the "walk" light (I was on foot) and a woman on a bicycle nearly crashed trying to get on her brakes because she expected to roll right on through. Even though she was maybe in the first 1/4 of the block when the light changed.
More recently, I watched a guy who waited almost through the whole light cycle (blocked by the traffic then the left turners) then rode through on the red, with the cars passing him at the other side of the intersection when they got the green.
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Old 05-20-2013, 12:20 PM   #2141
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The really annoying thing is that it does seem like the schmos outnumber the rest of us sometimes.
just for the record, I do stop at stop signs and lights. (ok, at signs it's sometimes a slow roll ).
A couple of years ago, I was starting to cross a street with the "walk" light (I was on foot) and a woman on a bicycle nearly crashed trying to get on her brakes because she expected to roll right on through. Even though she was maybe in the first 1/4 of the block when the light changed.
More recently, I watched a guy who waited almost through the whole light cycle (blocked by the traffic then the left turners) then rode through on the red, with the cars passing him at the other side of the intersection when they got the green.
I'm not sayin I haven't seen 'cyclists' do bad stuff on 2-wheels, but getting myself lumped into 'bicyclist' as a category with someone that's JRA and acts like a ped?

Its like lumping DS bikes into 'cruiser' because they both are MCs. I don't particularly want to be associated with parades of cruisers any more than I want to be associated with 'schmoes on bicycles.'

...but in the eyes of the public, everyone on a bicycle is a 'cyclist.'

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Old 05-20-2013, 01:09 PM   #2142
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At least some of the cops are paying attention

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Old 05-20-2013, 01:24 PM   #2143
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Nice. Kiss your mom with that mouth do ya?

Lemme ask ya a question: do you or do you not know that Deer Creek Cyn is a popular riding spot for Boulder/Denver area cyclists?

If you know and STILL go up there and think that you're going to be able to drive like Batman chasing the Riddler, you're even more ignorant than this post would suggest.

If you don't know, well, now you do. Get over it. Just because people aren't doing exactly what you do for fun...

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Fuckng yap yap.. that's exactly the kinda shit I hate. I used to use that road to commute. I'm not trying to die on my way home so some faggot can get his fix for the day. Might as well be some black out drunken lunatic.

"Get over it?" Get over yourself bro. You and your self important cyclist mentality.

You can get around just fine with some tires resistant to puncture and get on a damn bike path.

Do I know that Deer Creek Canyon Road is a popular cycling enthusiast hot spot? As a native to the area I just might have a clue about those spandex wearing fairies. Thanks for the head's up though!

I stand by my statement;

Cyclists...

Fuck em'....

......Fuck em!
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Old 05-20-2013, 02:09 PM   #2144
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Fuckng yap yap.. that's exactly the kinda shit I hate. I used to use that road to commute. I'm not trying to die on my way home so some faggot can get his fix for the day. Might as well be some black out drunken lunatic.

"Get over it?" Get over yourself bro. You and your self important cyclist mentality.

You can get around just fine with some tires resistant to puncture and get on a damn bike path.

Do I know that Deer Creek Canyon Road is a popular cycling enthusiast hot spot? As a native to the area I just might have a clue about those spandex wearing fairies. Thanks for the head's up though!

I stand by my statement;

Cyclists...

Fuck em'....

......Fuck em!
Nice. You kiss your mom with that mouth?

So, if I'm driving something bigger and/or faster than you its OK to threaten you with bodily harm? ...or is it just OK because I'm on a bicycle?



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Old 05-20-2013, 02:28 PM   #2145
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Can you imagine how people in Boston feel about the marathon?
It's such a long established tradition that nobody gets worked up about it at all.
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