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Old 10-10-2013, 06:24 AM   #3571
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:31 AM   #3572
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I'll agree with this.

Sometimes I'm the former. Sometimes I'm the latter. ...but I try and think about it before I do something.

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If everybody was more aware of how they impact others, and made a real effort to be cooperative, everybody would be better off.
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Old 10-10-2013, 09:20 AM   #3573
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I just did 300 miles from Pacifica, CA to Pismo Beach down HWY 1 with this rig. As most of you may know, the road has very little to no shoulders in some locations. Most cagers were very respectful of space, those that weren't were in rentals from China! I would see the same group of Chinese tourists for 2 days and would wince when they would be approaching (rear view mirror). The one thing I couldn't comprehend is the fuctard bicyclists that would insist on riding double, even when shoulders were non-existent- Idiots!

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Old 10-10-2013, 09:39 AM   #3574
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Interesting thread and discussion in light of what has been discussed and criticized at length in here;
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=926129

FWIW, based on the OP premise, it's not a move I'd make on a bike or moto.
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Old 10-12-2013, 02:02 AM   #3575
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I used to ride as far to the right as possible all the time. I had some incredibly bad steel-frame twisting wrecks doing that, particularly on roads with no shoulder. People will try to pass when there simply isn't room. They'll see you and wonder if they can squeeze through or not without considering the consequences of what happens when they guess wrong. When this happens enough, I move left so that they cannot pass unless there really is room for them to go around. The only people this affects are those who would have tried to go through when there wasn't room anyway and now have to wait for there to be room. It's not about hogging the road, it's about living.
By the way, do people really think that only revenue from taxes on fuel pay for road maintenance?
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Old 10-12-2013, 06:00 AM   #3576
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What one interpenetrates as a bad action may well be seen as appropriate by another.

I had to look up the word and I still don't understand the statement. Sounds good though.


http://www.thefreedictionary.com/interpenetrates
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Old 10-12-2013, 07:06 AM   #3577
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I had to look up the word and I still don't understand the statement. Sounds good though.


http://www.thefreedictionary.com/interpenetrates
I believe he meant to type, "interprets".
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Old 10-12-2013, 02:26 PM   #3578
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I believe he meant to type, "interprets".
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Old 10-14-2013, 06:12 AM   #3579
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one way to reduce traffic (and BTW cyclist fatalities)

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Old 10-14-2013, 07:59 AM   #3580
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Chicago tried that years ago, and it failed.
Residents didn't like it because of noise, businesses didn't like it because they needed to be be staffed after business hours. Trucking companies didn't like it because its contrary to the rest of the transportation systems flow, Drivers didn't like it because its more difficult maneuver in the dark.
An infective, cost raising, stupid idea.
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Old 10-15-2013, 05:24 AM   #3581
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Great idea - ATL successfully implemented a light version of this years ago. No rigs inside the perimeter without a drop. It's a 24 hour ban on the slow traffic snarlers.

Thing is we are +6million now and need to make some more moves. The 'costs' should be viewed from a macro point of view, not just the trucking companies. They are an absolute impediment when trying to shuffle the city to and from work.
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:52 AM   #3582
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Great idea - ATL successfully implemented a light version of this years ago. No rigs inside the perimeter without a drop. It's a 24 hour ban on the slow traffic snarlers.

Thing is we are +6million now and need to make some more moves. The 'costs' should be viewed from a macro point of view, not just the trucking companies. They are an absolute impediment when trying to shuffle the city to and from work.
Seattle also doesn't allow semis in the downtown area without a special permit, that makes a lot more sense than an outright ban on commercial deliveries during business hours.

I used to do the downtown route, and once in a while I did have to take a semi in for construction deliveries, it sucked big time, as a driver I'm all for that type of ban.

A traffic reduction system ahead of its time,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Tunnel_Company
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Old 10-16-2013, 07:10 AM   #3583
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Bull gores German cyclist to death in southern France


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An escaped bull has gored a German cyclist to death and injured his wife on a road in the Camargue region of southern France, in a rare attack.
The couple were passing a farm near Mejane when fighting broke out among several bulls inside an enclosure and one of the animals broke out.
Seeing the couple in its path, the enraged animal charged at them.
The dead man's injured wife was taken to hospital in Arles but her wounds are not thought to be life-threatening.
Opening an investigation, police were due to speak to the owner of the farm.
The enclosure was said to have been in good condition but it appears the fence was knocked down by the fighting animals.
"The cyclists found themselves directly in front of the bull which was certainly already angry and, seeing cyclists, charged right at them," A gendarmerie commander Arles told the broadcaster RTL.
The animal, a fighting bull, first attacked the wife during Monday's attack, according to French newspaper La Provence.
Then the husband, who was 54, was gored some 20 times, the paper said.
In a region where bullfighting is still widely practised, the Camargue is famous for its bulls.
The couple had been holidaying in the nearby village of Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer, where the mayor was quoted as saying that such attacks were extremely rare.



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Old 10-17-2013, 06:30 AM   #3584
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Coroner to question safety of London blue cycle superhighways

...and 30 reasons to take up cycling. For those that don't ride a bicycle yet.
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Old 10-17-2013, 03:42 PM   #3585
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I guess it isn't just cars
There is a youtube of a South African Mountain biker being taken out by some wildlife .. unintentional collision... I'd think the same can happen most places with wildlife.
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