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Old 08-01-2014, 11:45 AM   #4921
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Pedantic.

The mayor is lying.


And the investigation has been turned over to the St Louis County PD. Give them time and I'll bet the mayor will be prosecuted.

Michelle Marie Funkenbusch is the attorney and she stated during a news conf that she was able to talk to one witness and confirmed that his story matches the cyclist's. In fact, she stated that the witness was shocked that the mayor wasn't arrested. Keep in mind that no one knew that the driver was the mayor. It appears that two witnesses chased down the driver.

If you're on FB, join or lookup "Bikelife STL". Her news conf is there on video. Here's a link - it may work for those who are interested.
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Old 08-01-2014, 12:00 PM   #4922
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...And the investigation has been turned over to the St Louis County PD. Give them time and I'll bet the mayor will be prosecuted.
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I am not sure I'd make that bet, but it will be interesting to see what the outcome is. Hopefully mr. mayor gets his head handed to him though.

One of the news articles mentioned 3 witnesses, let's hope they can provide a reasonable and unbiased account of what happened. That's the way it's supposed to work, right?
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Old 08-01-2014, 12:25 PM   #4923
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maiden name or married name?
if it's her maiden name i bet she had a lot of fun in high school!

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Old 08-01-2014, 12:31 PM   #4924
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I'll agree that we don't know for certain what the actual facts of the situation were. But I'm still skeptical of the mayor's claims. Why was he beside the cyclist long enough for the cyclist to grab on at all, even if that's what did happen?
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Old 08-01-2014, 12:48 PM   #4925
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maiden name or married name?
if it's her maiden name i bet she had a lot of fun in high school!

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Old 08-01-2014, 04:27 PM   #4926
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Old 08-01-2014, 07:19 PM   #4927
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Heeheehee! I've done that.

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Old 08-03-2014, 07:47 AM   #4928
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I'll agree that we don't know for certain what the actual facts of the situation were. But I'm still skeptical of the mayor's claims. Why was he beside the cyclist long enough for the cyclist to grab on at all, even if that's what did happen?
I'll be watching for updates on this. The witnesses will be key in settling the he said vs. he said argument, because one of those guys is clearly lying. If the mayor's version is correct, I still don't get why he didn't stop immediately when he realized the cyclist had hit the ground. And, if a convertible can up beside me and starting harrassing me, I might grab onto the side of the car to feel if the car was coming at me. Regardless, this is a clear demonstration of how the bike always loses in a confrontation. Let's hope that the truth comes out. It sounds like the cyclist is all over the legal thing with a lawyer on speed dial. Only in America!
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Old 08-03-2014, 08:25 AM   #4929
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Seriously?

Road cycling scary?




Do most of you simply have Weazy on ignore?



I've been spending more time on the MTB of late.

The local passive-aggressive attitude toward cyclists has tilted toward aggressive as this summer has progressed; in a rural area with minimal traffic (both auto & cycles), it has become, patently, "un-fun" & unnecessary.

Add to that the abysmal/dangerous state of disrepair of most road surfaces which have drivers swerving to avoid axle snapping, several-inches- deep & literally miles long "potholes", with the only clear path of travel in the center of a two lane, and crumbling shoulders littered with debris, the dirt has become preferable!

My (admittedly ill-timed) road ride last Friday afternoon, given all the above, was a bit scary but more unpleasant/unenjoyable than anything- cars 12" off my elbow at 60+ mph tend to have that effect.I say this recalling my(young & dumber) days of splitting lanes, the wrong way, in SFO and loving every minute of it.
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Old 08-03-2014, 08:44 AM   #4930
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I've been spending more time on the MTB of late.

The local passive-aggressive attitude toward cyclists has tilted toward aggressive as this summer has progressed; in a rural area with minimal traffic (both auto & cycles), it has become, patently, "un-fun" & unnecessary.

Add to that the abysmal/dangerous state of disrepair of most road surfaces which have drivers swerving to avoid axle snapping, several-inches- deep & literally miles long "potholes", with the only clear path of travel in the center of a two lane, and crumbling shoulders littered with debris, the dirt has become preferable!

My (admittedly ill-timed) road ride last Friday afternoon, given all the above, was a bit scary but more unpleasant/unenjoyable than anything- cars 12" off my elbow at 60+ mph tend to have that effect.I say this recalling my(young & dumber) days of splitting lanes, the wrong way, in SFO and loving every minute of it.

I've cycled all over Western, Southern and Central Europe, as well as England, Scotland, Wales and have never had a problem. It's never been scary.

Seems to me that you guys have some pretty serious problems over there, either that, or maybe you should re-consider your choice of sport - "scary" being, after all, a relative term,
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Old 08-03-2014, 11:58 AM   #4931
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Seems to me that you guys have some pretty serious problems over there, either that, or maybe you should re-consider your choice of sport - "scary" being, after all, a relative term,
Before you make assumptions, maybe you should come riding in some of the areas that we're talking about. I haven't seen nearly as much passive-aggressive and/or more plain aggressive driving anywhere that I've lived than the DC area.

In Yurp, there's always seemed to be a more egalitarian attitude towards bikes and motos that we don't have here.

The 'get off my road ya spandex clad [expletive deleted]!' crowd seems to be in the majority over this side of the pond.

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Old 08-03-2014, 01:40 PM   #4932
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The US is a really big place and it's not really proper to paint it with a broad brush. I've ridden across it a bunch of times as well as across much of Europe, including Scotland/England. I'd say there are places in Europe that are just as scary to ride in as any of the worst that the US has to offer. There were places in Italy (and Lisbon/Portugal) that had some really scary drivers. On a whole though, European cage drivers do have a better attitude towards bicycles that here in the US. Whenever you get near large population centers the cycling and the attitudes that people have towards cyclist tend to get worse. Doesn't matter where you are.
That is why I ride mostly in rural areas and have very few problems at all.
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Old 08-03-2014, 04:53 PM   #4933
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Whenever you get near large population centers the cycling and the attitudes that people have towards cyclist tend to get worse. Doesn't matter where you are.
Try Amsterdam?
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Old 08-03-2014, 05:38 PM   #4934
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I've cycled all over Western, Southern and Central Europe, as well as England, Scotland, Wales and have never had a problem. It's never been scary.



I notice that the US is not included on that list, Weazy.

Your opinion of cycling here is based upon sheer conjecture, then?

OK, good talk.
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Old 08-03-2014, 06:36 PM   #4935
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Try Amsterdam?
No, never been there. I bet it's pretty good though. Most of the Netherlands is very bike friendly.
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