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Old 08-21-2014, 10:46 AM   #5026
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Ok, first off, I apologise for thinking it was you. I rarely look at user names, just the comments.

Secondly - we have a cyclist who's now on the road side of the road, in what is presumably a residential area, and not paying attention.

I'm not, and I don't think anyone else is either, excusing the actions of the other road user but come on...let's get real here. You're cycling along, you need to move to the centre of the road, for whatever reason, and you don't look to see what is, or may be, heading your way?

In his own words he said

My conclusions based on his words: He was approaching. He wasn't mid-overtake. He was approaching. He saw the other vehicle. He made a call to "squeeze through".



I stand by my choice of A).
No, on just about every level. Seems to be a pattern w/ you.

I was already adjacent to the vehicle's open door when the oncoming driver decided to squeeze .

I didn't move to the center ( actually, totally into the other lane), oncoming did.

In this case, relatively residential cowtown meaning no sidewalks, road shoulder, lane markings or other such "amenities", so there really is nowhere to go but the ditch.

Again-

A)Job.

B) Hobby.

Or C) Both.
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Old 08-21-2014, 11:05 AM   #5027
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That guy is a grade A Jackwipe.
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Old 08-21-2014, 11:07 AM   #5028
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No, on just about every level. Seems to be a pattern w/ you.

I was already adjacent to the vehicle's open door when the oncoming driver decided to squeeze .

I didn't move to the center ( actually, totally into the other lane), oncoming did.

In this case, relatively residential cowtown meaning no sidewalks, road shoulder, lane markings or other such "amenities", so there really is nowhere to go but the ditch.

Again-

A)Job.

B) Hobby.

Or C) Both.
Then maybe, next time, instead of using the word "approaching" you use the word "adjacent"....and problem solved.

You know they don't mean the same thing right?
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Old 08-21-2014, 11:30 AM   #5029
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Other side of the coin-

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Old 08-21-2014, 11:34 AM   #5030
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Then maybe, next time, instead of using the word "approaching" you use the word "adjacent"....and problem solved.

You know they don't mean the same thing right?
Truly, you are a bore.

Next time, don't assume... anything.

You do know what they say,right?
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Old 08-21-2014, 11:35 AM   #5031
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lol

Now...that said... :p

I often, almost always, go through reds when I cycle but only if there's a pedestrian cross on the opposing road and it's green. More so when there's no cycle lane.
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Old 08-21-2014, 12:38 PM   #5032
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another fat ass who should have ridden a bike instead of attacking them - arrested.

You fat miserable piece of shit:

link



I have to give the po/po credit where credit is due - they took several weeks to perform their investigation. Some kept saying it as "he said/he said" but instead, it was "he said/they said".

He allegedly yelled at them, allegedly swung a pole at the bikers from the cab of his pickup truck and allegedly brake-checked them.

An earlier article - Aug 7th.
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Old 08-21-2014, 12:41 PM   #5033
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Truly, you are a bore.

Next time, don't assume... anything.

You do know what they say,right?
Approached
Adjacent.

Different words, spelled differently, mean different things. Don't even sound the same.

You ignorant wanker.

Next time, ask for help before posting....anything.
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Old 08-21-2014, 03:04 PM   #5034
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Catweasel, Shut the fuck up.
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Old 08-21-2014, 04:14 PM   #5035
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Comprehending what you read isn't one of your strong attributes is it?
No one died or even came close. You'd get irritated too if some jerk gets out if thier vehicle and left the door open into the travel Lane impeading traffic. I know you would based on your replies about bicycles in this thread.
I didn't say that I wouldn't get irritated. Would I put myself in danger over it.... No

You haven't understood.

Approaching the situation a good rider would realise that there is a possibility that the car might pull out. A good rider would realise that if this happens then they may be put in a situation that is dangerous. A good rider would then stop and wait to see which way the driver was turning before they made the overtake.

Whilst fortunately this mistake didn't result in the rider dying, it was close enough to remember and recount here. That makes it a situation that a good rider would want to avoid, whether they happen to be... "in the right".

That would be my advice if the situation was for a motorcyclist.
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Old 08-21-2014, 04:24 PM   #5036
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Approached
Adjacent.

Different words, spelled differently, mean different things. Don't even sound the same.

You ignorant wanker.

Next time, ask for help before posting....anything.

What are you on about, twat?
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Old 08-21-2014, 04:46 PM   #5037
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I said the cyclist can be happy to know as he is dying on the road that he can blame the door opener.

A smart rider knows there is a difference between being legally right but still dead and stopping even when you dont have to so that you can ensure your safety.

But i am really talking hypotheticals, because the rider was not a motorcyclist
Enough with this BS "dead right" crap. All it does is attempt place blame on the victim to alleviate the "guilt" of the person causing the collision. No one dies just to be "dead right". A smart rider knows that. Would you claim that someone that was riding further out, away from the danger of an open door, would then be "dead right" to avoid it? Or is the driver that kills him making him "dead right" as he didn't yield the right of way? Or... is stopping at every "danger" the smart and safe move for the cyclists, lest he be "dead right"? Are you "dead right" when someone turns in front of you?

I was in a collision because some jackass waved someone else out in front of me while I was on my bicycle. Was it then my fault because I ran into the vehicle that was then obstructing my right of way, since I couldn't stop in time? The police and everyone involved would say otherwise.
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Old 08-21-2014, 05:01 PM   #5038
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No it's not your fault but a smart rider would realise that there was a possibility that they may wave them through and the rider would be the one to wear the consequences. A smart rider would then stop until the risk was avoided or at least slow to minimise the damage to non life threatening/non hospital

Would be my advice if you were a motorcyclist. Sorry to hear about your crash.
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Old 08-21-2014, 05:12 PM   #5039
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No it's not your fault but a smart rider would realise that there was a possibility that they may wave them through and the rider would be the one to wear the consequences. A smart rider would then stop until the risk was avoided or at least slow to minimise the damage to non life threatening/non hospital

Would be my advice if you were a motorcyclist. Sorry to hear about your crash.
So... because I was in a collision that I could not avoid (and I've had more than enough time to go over all possibilites), I'm not a "smart rider"... got it. Surely, it would have been much smarter to have just walked there instead, according to your logic. Must be great being such a "smart rider" eh?
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Old 08-21-2014, 05:18 PM   #5040
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I'm sick of people trying to be nice by waving me out.
I often ride to my wife's office with her and there is an intersection where we have
the stop at a fairly busy road. Cross traffic has the right of way.
Almost every time we stop and wait for traffic to clear, someone will stop their
vehicle and wave us across.

I always give them a head shake and point at them and down the road in a
"you, go that way"

Some day a kid will take advantage of a "courteous" driver like this and be flattened
by a vehicle.
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