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Old 09-01-2014, 06:39 AM   #5131
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I'd say 'ride safely' but then you get this



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Old 09-01-2014, 06:58 AM   #5132
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I don't fully understand the reasoning behind bicyclists on the road with cars and motorcycles. In my opinion a bicyclist is a pedestrian with wheels. There is no motor. Why does this constitute riding in the street? When I ride my bike I ride where I feel save and most times thats not on the road.
1) Being on the sidewalk endangers pedestrians, who has the most vulnerable users get their own travel area (as they should)

2) vehicles crossing sidewalks are not looking for someone traveling 18-23MPH. That makes every driveway dangerous for the cyclist.

3) on most roadways there is plenty of room for a bike and a car in one lane- as long as everyone plays by the rules its a no brainer. pedestrians tend to wander all over the place cars dont

I find the most dangerous feeling places are when I switch "modes" from a sidewalk to a street, from a bike lane to a car lane etc. I try and minimize those transitions and clearly communicate my intentions. Mostly I only roll on the sidewalk the last block to my destination, and then only at walking speeds so I dont run into anyone.
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Old 09-01-2014, 07:05 AM   #5133
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I'd say 'ride safely' but then you get this



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Old 09-01-2014, 08:10 AM   #5134
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Around here they (the bicyclists) think, and act, like they own the fucking road. ... They're the new bosses?....
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Old 09-01-2014, 12:56 PM   #5135
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...then you go on to call all car drivers, and through implication, all motorbike riders, sociopaths.
Huh? How on earth do you get that from what I posted?

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Do road users need more training and better, mandatory testing? Absolutely. But that's all road users - including cyclists.
Hmm. Mandatory testing... To ride a bicycle. Awesome idea!

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Old 09-01-2014, 01:40 PM   #5136
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...then you go on to call all car drivers, and through implication, all motorbike riders, sociopaths.



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Huh? How on earth do you get that from what I posted?



Hmm. Mandatory testing... To ride a bicycle. Awesome idea!
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***text snip*** I realize that many motorcycle riders are no better than the most sociopathic cager.
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Old 09-01-2014, 01:43 PM   #5137
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...then you go on to call all car drivers, and through implication, all motorbike riders, sociopaths.







quote=81forest;24974249]***text snip***i realize that many motorcycle riders are no better than the most sociopathic cager.
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that's not all.. Most =\= all
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Old 09-01-2014, 03:45 PM   #5138
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that's not all.. Most =\= all[/QUOTE]


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Old 09-01-2014, 04:30 PM   #5139
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Does anyone remember the page number to where the video link of a cyclist at a restaurant getting into his vehcile and driving directly toward a person filiming is?

The cyclists was upsets that someone had questioned him about parking with bicycles handing off of a rear rack, which blocked the sidewalk. The cyclist then gets into his vehicle, floors it directly towards the person filiming, a direct threat to that persons life.

I've searched an can't find it. I need it for the irony.
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Old 09-01-2014, 04:57 PM   #5140
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Does anyone remember the page number to where the video link of a cyclist at a restaurant getting into his vehcile and driving directly toward a person filiming is?

The cyclists was upsets that someone had questioned him about parking with bicycles handing off of a rear rack, which blocked the sidewalk. The cyclist then gets into his vehicle, floors it directly towards the person filiming, a direct threat to that persons life.

I've searched an can't find it. I need it for the irony.
What a fucking asshole.

I always stop for a quick bite to eat every Saturday morning before my club ride. The place I stop always has a open parking right in front and with the bike on a receiver rack, I'd rather have it out of the way of traffic. Therefore, I back into the space and always take care not to go in too far so I'm not blocking the sidewalk. Seems to be the considerate way to park ....bike is out of traffic and I'm not blocking the walkway.
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Old 09-01-2014, 05:45 PM   #5141
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You pass a bicycle the same way you pass this:



Give it plenty of room.
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Old 09-01-2014, 07:47 PM   #5142
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Yesterday (Sunday), I rode the Savannah Century, 100.6 miles in 5h46m (solo). Only saw two prickly cagers: a ford truck couldn't wait for oncoming traffic to pass and instead straddled the yellow line...luckily, the oncoming cars dove off the right side of the road to avoid a head on collision.

The second cager passed me and dozens of other riders (all riding within about 18'' of the fog line) with less than 2' to spare. When he passed me, I yelled and he held up three fingers (Georgia has a 3' minimum passing distance law). I reckon he underestimated his passing distance. It was dangerous and unnecessary.

Still, I had a great time and set a new PR for a solo Century.

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Old 09-01-2014, 07:55 PM   #5143
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Yesterday (Sunday), I rode the Savannah Century, 100.6 miles in 5h46m (solo). Only saw two prickly cagers: a ford truck couldn't wait for oncoming traffic to pass and instead straddled the yellow line...luckily, the oncoming cars dove off the right side of the road to avoid a head on collision.

The second cager passed me and dozens of other riders (all riding within about 18'' of the fog line) with less than 2' to spare. When he passed me, I yelled and he held up three fingers (Georgia has a 3' minimum passing distance law). I reckon he underestimated his passing distance. It was dangerous and unnecessary.

Still, I had a great time and set a new PR for a solo Century.

Great job!

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Old 09-01-2014, 10:46 PM   #5144
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that's not all.. Most =\= all

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Copy that. I wasn't even saying that "most" cagers are sociopaths, far from it. Most people look out for other people, by nature. The subject is a little touchy because I indirectly knew that woman that was just killed in Seattle's "bike lane" on Second Avenue. It was a stupid, pointless collision that happens over and over again on that street.

Congrats to Dolomoto on that century, inspiring! That is a fast time.
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Old 09-02-2014, 12:41 AM   #5145
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that's not all.. Most =\= all[/QUOTE]

That's a fair point. I stand corrected. My apologies to 81Forest - I read your generalisation (which I detest, and yes, I also dislike ambiguities - they're both an over-used, and poor argumentative tool) and the left side of my brain took over, mis-reading what you'd said.

(and yes, I know I also generalise from time to time)
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