2012 KTM 350 freeride

[lamotovita]

Originally Posted by ktmmitch

We were asked to look at making more fuel capacity for the FR when launched in UK,and to us,the most obvious way would be to ditch the right silencer,make a 2 into 1 Y piece for the exhaust,then replace the right silencer with a plastic-moulded 2/3 litre fuel tank that would connect into the existing fuel system,similar to our idea for the KTM 690 tank kits we produce.
2 silencers is more for show than power ,and the advantage of a bit more fuel is probably more important than a balanced silencer view from the rear.

Are you sure the two mufflers don't have anything to do with making the bike quiet?

[Steveman]

Originally Posted by lamotovita

Are you sure the two mufflers don't have anything to do with making the bike quiet?

At least that is the statement of KTM. Two silenceres less noise emission...

[Gryphon12]

They are also reasonably light, considering the overall wet weight at 228 lbs, and they meet the Euro-3 emissions. I'd say that they are part of the overall "package" of the Freeride. Given that the 350/500 have a single, large silencer, KTM certainly could have designed the Freeride that way - but they didn't.

I'd reinforce the subframe to carry Rotopax, and find some way to design a larger primary tank that isn't just between the top frame rails.

If none of this works, I'd buy a 350 EXC and remap it to a Freeride (minus the cam?).

[milzispete]

The comparison with the other KTM 350’s reminded me of something I had read on Rickramsey.net about the parts comparison with the XCF-W. We all know the Freeride engine was derived from the XCF but you might be surprised just how much of it is the same including piston, head, valve train and cams. In fact it is pretty much identical with the main differences being the intake and exhaust. I’ve had a look at my own Freeride and the exhaust is necked right down just as the header leaves the cylinder head.
I’m sure someone can get an XCF exhaust header and end can to fit if they were determined enough. I’m sure rally raid must have a pipe bender knocking about their shop somewhere. It would also leave room for the wee tank they have been toying with

[milzispete]

link to XCF-W engine parts comparison http://rickramsey.net/FR350PartsComparo.htm

[blakken]

I have the freeride to the wife
I also have a 690 enduro r and adv 990r.
I was very skeptical to the power off the freeride but i thinking off to sell my 690 and get my self a freeride.
Its fantastic in the forest, and its a killer when i go and "freerides" ..
I just want litle more power!
Is ther any easy mods to get it more alive.

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[milzispete]

Originally Posted by blakken

I have the freeride to the wife
I also have a 690 enduro r and adv 990r.
I was very skeptical to the power off the freeride but i thinking off to sell my 690 and get my self a freeride.
Its fantastic in the forest, and its a killer when i go and "freerides" ..
I just want litle more power!
Is ther any easy mods to get it more alive.

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I did the same thing Blakken. I bought one for the wife and now you can't get me off it. The only simple mod I know of is a re-map of the ECU which will take the bike from 24hp up to around 30hp. You should be able to find it covered earlier in this thread. After the ECU changes it looks to me like changes to the intake and exhaust system are required.

There is another good thread on here at http://advrider.com/forums/showthrea...740262&page=18

The Aussies have had the Freeride for a little while now and from what I've read they are about to start pulling them to pieces Watch this space for some useful info on how to make the bike more manly

I should add that not all bikes came with only 24hp. It depends where and when and where you bought your bike from

[Gryphon12]

After introduction to the UK, KTM got enough feedback to take the HP from 24 to 30. That ECU map should be KTM factory for all newer bikes? I hope so.

However, more than 30 hp and you should switch to a 350 EXC-F or XC-W. The steep steering geometry (23*) of the Freeride and the 2.5" shorter wheel base are like those of a Trials bike - indeed it is a Trials hybrid. It won't handle like an Enduro at higher speeds - it will be less stable.

If you want a full-on dirt bike (Enduro), buy the Enduro. The Freeride wasn't designed to do what you are talking about. Can you do it? Yes. The KTM manual even tells you how, and notes that you void the warranty when you do it. But why do it when the EXC-F / XC-W will do it better? The weight penalty of the bigger bikes is trivial, and you get a rear subframe and access to larger gas tanks in the bargin - neither of which will happen on the Freeride easily.

We now have a world-wide culture of modifying motorcycles to beyond sensible limits. In this case - don't. Buy the right KTM in the first place.

[ramz]

^^^^^ Best comments I've read about the FR350.

[One67]

With regards to the revised ECU map, mine was upgraded as part of the pre- delivery shake down.

Some shops here are removing the pre-filter and muffler gauze as well, those bits were left on mine.

[mickd]

Originally Posted by Gryphon12

After introduction to the UK, KTM got enough feedback to take the HP from 24 to 30. That ECU map should be KTM factory for all newer bikes? I hope so.

However, more than 30 hp and you should switch to a 350 EXC-F or XC-W. The steep steering geometry (23*) of the Freeride and the 2.5" shorter wheel base are like those of a Trials bike - indeed it is a Trials hybrid. It won't handle like an Enduro at higher speeds - it will be less stable.

If you want a full-on dirt bike (Enduro), buy the Enduro. The Freeride wasn't designed to do what you are talking about. Can you do it? Yes. The KTM manual even tells you how, and notes that you void the warranty when you do it. But why do it when the EXC-F / XC-W will do it better? The weight penalty of the bigger bikes is trivial, and you get a rear subframe and access to larger gas tanks in the bargin - neither of which will happen on the Freeride easily.

We now have a world-wide culture of modifying motorcycles to beyond sensible limits. In this case - don't. Buy the right KTM in the first place.

and at the price you said the freeride is selling at,add another $1700 and you can have the ktm350exc

[One67]

Originally Posted by mickd

and at the price you said the freeride is selling at,add another $1700 and you can have the ktm350exc

If the 350EXC is what you need/want, then you shouldn't even be looking at the Freeride.

Two completely different beasts, no matter what the price difference.

[blakken]

ONE67
did you mount the 12 tooth sprocket?
report please how did it work.

any one ho has tried the other map is it big difference?

i like to now a little more before i sell the 690 enduro r and get a freeride to complete my 990 adv r.


Pete40 what mods have you done airfilter skin? exhaust what part did you remove? mapping?

[mickd]

Originally Posted by One67

If the 350EXC is what you need/want, then you shouldn't even be looking at the Freeride.

Two completely different beasts, no matter what the price difference.

i agree 100% with you,but on this thread and other threads guys are trying to use them that a 350 would/could be a better option,

[One67]

Originally Posted by mickd

i agree 100% with you,but on this thread and other threads guys are trying to use them that a 350 would/could be a better option,

Yeah, fair enough.

@Blakken - Yeah , I put the 12 tooth on because I felt that 1st gear was really only useful for rock hopping, which I don't do.

With the 12 in 1st, it will still pull up the gnarliest hills I can imagine, but it just cruises better getting to the trails at 80 cliks.
As for the new map, It's standard on all new Freerides now, mine was re-flashed before I picked it up.
After it's run in, I'll remove the pre-filter and exhaust restrictors, i think I'll feel a big difference then according to what the euro boys have said.