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Old 07-21-2012, 05:18 PM   #1516
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"Graded" is rather subjective, don't you think?

What about "minor" water crossings? Under one foot deep? 3" deep? Ledge heights (over or under 4"?) Size of "gravel?" Up to 6" in diameter the smallest dimension?

I'll need to know more about what you are looking for, if the above would be suitable, pretty solid roads, then you could do the Ophir pass/Last Dollar loop just fine on street tires.

A couple of years ago we had Ninja Warrior from Texas do the Cinnamon/Engineer loop with no bike damage, so there will be stuff you could do to get out there beyond the paved roads into some above-treeline scenic vistas!
its all very subjective, and one person's "easy" is another one's "no fucking way!"..

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not this



not this



not this



not opposed to a bit of water crossing, but this one looks like a bit much

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Old 07-21-2012, 06:02 PM   #1517
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its all very subjective, and one person's "easy" is another one's "no fucking way!"..

How about this:



or this:




Do those look acceptable? That is Ophir pass. Great views!
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Old 07-21-2012, 06:07 PM   #1518
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How about this:


Do those look acceptable? That is Ophir pass. Great views!
Those look like definite possibilities, is it all like that?
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Old 07-21-2012, 06:18 PM   #1519
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Those look like definite possibilities, is it all like that?

Pretty much so, yes. Going downhill on the other side it's a bit looser, with fist sized gravel and maybe a few bigger chunks to miss, but nothing serious. A nice loop would be over Ophir, down to Telluride, then up Last Dollar, through Ridgeway, and down 550 to Silverton.

I don't think you would have any problem with street tires and your bike. You can take about any car over it.
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Old 07-21-2012, 06:21 PM   #1520
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Pretty much so, yes. Going downhill on the other side it's a bit looser, with fist sized gravel and maybe a few bigger chunks to miss, but nothing serious. A nice loop would be over Ophir, down to Telluride, then up Last Dollar, through Ridgeway, and down 550 to Silverton.

I don't think you would have any problem with street tires and your bike. You can take about any car over it.
It's on my list, then
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Old 07-21-2012, 06:52 PM   #1521
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John.....I might be back in.....as my job dictates...... I know this is too late for every thing.....or most every thing.... But i will let you know as I get closer. Most likely I will ride up from El Paso,TX. Anyone else coming up from central TX....say through Alburqurq....Alburgquk.... Middle city in NM.....
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Old 07-21-2012, 07:21 PM   #1522
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Today, Mac, TDBiker and myself made our way over to C-Fab owned by Wayne Demonja. Wayne is a recent fan of RMAR and offered to help us with our BBQ Pit project. Wayne is a legend in desert racing, driving the Mazda Truck for years, winning more races than he can count, including a couple of Baja1000's in his division.

A Propane company out of Alamogordo, NM donated the tanks. With Wayne's Plasma Cutter and Mig Welder.....we did some awesome work....with Wayne doing about 80% of all the heavy lifting.

This coming week we will remove all the white paint, weld in the grilling surface and mount them on the Grill'in Trailer.

We are going to have an awesome cooking setup this year. The Ribeyes will be grilled on Kingsford with a great smokey flavor.....rather gas.




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Old 07-21-2012, 07:56 PM   #1523
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Old 07-21-2012, 08:07 PM   #1524
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John.....I might be back in.....as my job dictates...... I know this is too late for every thing.....or most every thing.... But i will let you know as I get closer. Most likely I will ride up from El Paso,TX. Anyone else coming up from central TX....say through Alburqurq....Alburgquk.... Middle city in NM.....
Come on, man! It's L-B-Q-Q! I'd offer to ride with, but I'll already be up there. Hope to see you there.
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Old 07-21-2012, 08:15 PM   #1525
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How stoked am I about RMAR being so close?


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Old 07-21-2012, 08:34 PM   #1526
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Dam excited I tell ya.........


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Old 07-21-2012, 08:44 PM   #1527
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John, not to be a downer, but we should check with the locals about any burn bans in place. Here in Aspen, the only allowable outdoor flame of any kind in propane or natural gas fueled cooking. No Charcoal or wood allowed.

Just a thought.....
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Old 07-21-2012, 09:09 PM   #1528
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John, not to be a downer, but we should check with the locals about any burn bans in place. Here in Aspen, the only allowable outdoor flame of any kind in propane or natural gas fueled cooking. No Charcoal or wood allowed.

Just a thought.....

Absolutely...... I do know that the San Juans have been getting a lot of rain.



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Old 07-21-2012, 09:29 PM   #1529
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FIRE RESTRICTIONS EASED FOR THE SAN JUAN NATIONAL FOREST BUT STILL IN EFFECT AT LOWER ELEVATIONS
Effective Friday, July 13, 2012, fire restrictions will be lifted at higher elevations and eased at lower elevations of the San Juan National Forest in southwestern Colorado. Updated maps, which show specific boundaries for the specific zones considered higher and lower elevation under the revised restrictions, will be available beginning tomorrow at National Forest offices in Pagosa Springs, Bayfield, Durango, Dolores and Silverton
Fire restrictions for higher elevations of the San Juan National Forest (Zone 2), which have been receiving more moisture, are hereby lifted; however, visitors are still asked to remain safety conscious in these areas.
Lower elevations of the San Juan National Forest (Zone 1) have received less moisture, so fire restrictions will be eased but remain in effect, as follows:
Building, maintaining, attending or using a fire, campfire or stove fire is limited to permanent fire rings or grates within developed campgrounds (Exceptions: petroleum-fueled stoves, lanterns or heating devices);
Smoking is limited to an enclosed vehicle or building, or within a 3-foot-wide area cleared of vegetation;
Chainsaws and other internal-combustion engines must have approved, working spark arresters;
Welding or use of acetylene and other torches with an open flame is prohibited;
Use of explosives is prohibited (including fireworks, blasting caps or any incendiary device, which may result in the ignition of flammable material).
These changes pertain ONLY to the San Juan National Forest. For more information, contact the San Juan Public Lands Center at 970 247-4874.

-- relevant map shown below, Silverton is in Zone 2 --

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Old 07-21-2012, 11:18 PM   #1530
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Absolutely...... I do know that the San Juans have been getting a lot of rain.



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Go John! That will be a fantastic grill!
Propane is for making coffee at 10k+ ft. Outdoor cooking for a high level of flavor is with charcoal only. Dont get me started on what is a Bar-B-Que and why a gas grill wont work for that. You are legal in Silverton.
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