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Old 07-23-2012, 02:47 PM   #1546
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How big of a deal is it to drive on the road with non-DOT tires out there? Must I put 606's on my KTM?
I never been bothered...so yeah it must be an individual cop thing. I mean most probably have no clue or want to get down and look to see. Best case if you run a mixed pair...like I will be running MT43 rear and non-dot IRC front...if a cop asked I point first to the rear and show the DOT stamping...probable then he would loose interest in wanting me to show him on the front ;-)

If really I would lecture them on what DOT even means, just a conformity policy like ISO and does not mean the tire is not capable. To me if its capable of doing Baja 1000 its capable of a few miles I do on the street. Oh then there is my TUBliss system...hmmm But would they even know what that is, NOPE.

It's like anything, do you take the chance that one Mr know it all cop will even stop you!!! Then add on that will even know what a DOT tire is or is not!!! I'll risk it to have tires I can run on single track.
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Old 07-23-2012, 03:04 PM   #1547
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How big of a deal is it to drive on the road with non-DOT tires out there? Must I put 606's on my KTM?


As others have said, it's a chance you take (or don't). I've been running non-dot for years with no issue. A good rule to follow is don't drive like an : especially in town so a LEO doesn't have a reason to pull you over.
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Old 07-23-2012, 04:02 PM   #1548
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Old 07-23-2012, 06:43 PM   #1549
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How big of a deal is it to drive on the road with non-DOT tires out there? Must I put 606's on my KTM?
If they are they Dunlop 606's they are DOT rated.
"Dunlop D606 Dual Sport Off-Road Motorcycle front and rear tires are off-road race aggressive but completely DOT-approved street legal"

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Old 07-23-2012, 07:58 PM   #1550
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I never been bothered...so yeah it must be an individual cop thing. I mean most probably have no clue or want to get down and look to see. Best case if you run a mixed pair...like I will be running MT43 rear and non-dot IRC front...if a cop asked I point first to the rear and show the DOT stamping...probable then he would loose interest in wanting me to show him on the front ;-)

If really I would lecture them on what DOT even means, just a conformity policy like ISO and doe snot mean the tire is not capable. To me if its capable of doing Baja 1000 its capable of a few miles I do on the street. Oh then there is my TUBliss system...hmmm But would they even know what that is, NOPE.

It's like anything, do you take the chance that one Mr know it all cop will even stop you!!! Then add on that will even know what a DOT tire is or is not!!! I'll risk it to have tires I can run on single track.
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:09 PM   #1551
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.............. I'll risk it to have tires I can run on single track.

so this DOT tire vs Non-DOT tire conversation has me thinking.....

What is the big difference between the two tires? I have the MT43 DOT trails tire, and I do very well on the single track. Would I do better with a non-dot tire?

If so, why?
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:16 PM   #1552
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:42 PM   #1553
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Old 07-24-2012, 04:45 AM   #1555
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Lucky me I have these days off so I may head up from El Paso. If you go and want to ride up drop me a line.
I will certainly do so..... Thanks... I'm in the upper valley.... Red/Doniphan.....
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Old 07-24-2012, 08:09 AM   #1556
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My departure is 8 days away!!!!! Hooooray!!!!!


I have really been looking forward to the Rendezvous this year, as I just haven't been able to ride as much with my new job. It will be three great days of riding, friendship and food.

This is going to be the greatest year, yet!!!! I am glad that all of you are excited to join us and become a part of RMAR!

Make sure you prep those bikes properly and that you travel safely!!!!

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Old 07-24-2012, 08:21 AM   #1557
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so this DOT tire vs Non-DOT tire conversation has me thinking.....

What is the big difference between the two tires? I have the MT43 DOT trails tire, and I do very well on the single track. Would I do better with a non-dot tire?

If so, why?
I think it is more rider skill then always a tire issue. I do think a D606 is a lot different then a large lug IRC VE33 for off road. Hard to compare the MT43 to a knobbie tire, very different animals.

However with that said, think about the MT43...its freaking square. All the sportbike mags I been reading through the years and they always cut down people that want to try a car tire because it is square, thus will not lean on turns (will fall in to quickly and not transition smoothly) all that well.

They also say other things like sidewall load, reduce tread contact to the roadway. So what makes a DOT MT43 any better then a car tire on a Gold Wing? (although I do realize the MT43 don't come in that width). Why can the MT43 be DOT approved? After all in reality its a very poor street tire per say.

Maybe this shows that it is about the certification, you pay $$$$ as a company to get a tire certified and meet some of the requirements like thread height and lug spacing and then that VE33 I run could also be DOT approved. I think its a money issue when it comes to compliance programs like DOT & ISO standards. All these standards say is, we follow a manufacturing policy that in theory should make each tire the same. Which is not true, and there is no proof quality is improved but they claim it is to sell you the certification/standard, these standards by the way typically cost $100K+ to meet (dependent on size of the business).

Of course with these standards all you get with a DOT tire is one that typically cost more. The manufacture just passed the DOT approve cost onto you the consumer. very little to do with safety (especially when talking tires)...which for the most part are constructed the same whether DOT or Non-Dot.
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Old 07-24-2012, 08:31 AM   #1558
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With all this talk about tire selection, the question I really need to know is what kind of oil should I use while up there?
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Old 07-24-2012, 08:32 AM   #1559
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With all this talk about tire selection, the question I really need to know is what kind of oil should I use while up there?
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