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Old 12-31-2011, 05:38 AM   #301
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My bet is on a gentleman's agreement that the top teams all plan on one engine change on the rest day.
I think this is the plan, but if a rider is not happy with his machine they will change an engine prematurely I'm sure.
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Old 12-31-2011, 05:40 AM   #302
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Indeed, but i dont think the works 450's can handle it... Ktm had to swap earlier then expcted last year, only Aprilia can do the distance if you ask me. Yammies were changing engine freely... The gap is just going to widen more and more i guess..

Top 2 within 20 minutes, top 5 within 2 hours of the leader and the rest at over 4 hours by the time we reach the finish, no?
I'd bet that ktm factory team knew about this rule a long time ago and considered it when building their engines...but what the heck do I know

The packing and sorting has begun, riders leave in 2 hours for their meeting immediately followed by the parade, photos, etc

Things are starting to get exciting
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Old 12-31-2011, 07:57 AM   #303
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Hi Ted,
Not very important but I wonder if all the meeting are in french only or available in different langages
Have fun!
(PS: I took a ticket for Moad in May)
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Old 12-31-2011, 08:59 AM   #304
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Hi Ted,
Not very important but I wonder if all the meeting are in french only or available in different langages
Have fun!
(PS: I took a ticket for Moad in May)
From previous years the story was the briefing was in French but then the do translations to English (and I assume some other languages) however the English translation was much shorter and obviously left out some of the detail. This bit Jonah last year when there was a waypoint that the organizers said was not reachable and could be skipped, Jonah rode around in circles trying to get the GPS to register hitting the waypoint and lost a bunch of time. Evidently this detail was left out of the English translated brief.

I have started some French lessons with the hope of being able to understand the original French briefing. Also I have heard stories from the past where riders claimed they had more help from the organizers by speaking to them in their language.
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Old 12-31-2011, 10:19 AM   #306
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Just got back from the briefing, pretty cool with all the crowds and cheering. Riders got on a bus to get their bikes and ride in the parade. Truck packing and our last day of chilling in the house (beds, etc). First time I've been on the other side of the fence with thousands of cheering people....very cool experience
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Old 12-31-2011, 10:51 AM   #307
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Old 12-31-2011, 12:28 PM   #308
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From previous years the story was the briefing was in French but then the do translations to English (and I assume some other languages) however the English translation was much shorter and obviously left out some of the detail. This bit Jonah last year when there was a waypoint that the organizers said was not reachable and could be skipped, Jonah rode around in circles trying to get the GPS to register hitting the waypoint and lost a bunch of time. Evidently this detail was left out of the English translated brief.

I have started some French lessons with the hope of being able to understand the original French briefing. Also I have heard stories from the past where riders claimed they had more help from the organizers by speaking to them in their language.

The French have a long and dishonorable history of bias on the part of organizers and rule enforcement
in motorsport. Those who remember Balestre ( FIA head during the Senna / Prost era ) know how the outcome
of races in F1 was influenced in favor of Prost. It's an ugly business. Of course such things happen at the highest levels of competition,
and it's not only the French who engage in such behavior, but for the French it seems to be business as usual. Even fluency in French
will not alleviate the problem, because some of the questionable stuff happens behind closed doors and non-French competitors will not
be privy to the French subterfuge.

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Bill and Jonah are back at the house....

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great shots! mind if I pilfer with credit for his blog?
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great shots! mind if I pilfer with credit for his blog?

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The organization (ASO) gave us all a full size map and a pamphlet with a day by day rundown of the route, description, distances, etc

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The French have a long and dishonorable history of bias on the part of organizers and rule enforcement
in motorsport. Those who remember Balestre ( FIA head during the Senna / Prost era ) know how the outcome
of races in F1 was influenced in favor of Prost. It's an ugly business. Of course such things happen at the highest levels of competition,
and it's not only the French who engage in such behavior, but for the French it seems to be business as usual. Even fluency in French
will not alleviate the problem, because some of the questionable stuff happens behind closed doors and non-French competitors will not
be privy to the French subterfuge.
Well, I did not ask the question to start this kind of discussion.
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