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Old 11-26-2011, 06:17 AM   #46
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Shoei as a brand has never let me down .
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Never minded spending $$ on their product. If I ever decide to try flip up it would be Shoei.
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Old 11-26-2011, 11:33 AM   #47
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I love my Multitech as an everyday street lid.

I'd love it even more if Sharp hadn't warned me how often the front might unlatch in an impact :-(. If this adds the bells and whistles that the Multitech is missing AND stops it popping open in impacts, then I'm all over it. The Multitech Sharp scores are plenty good enough for a competent full-face street helmet, if you ignore the whole popping open issue!
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Old 11-26-2011, 03:11 PM   #48
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I'd love it even more if Sharp hadn't warned me how often the front might unlatch in an impact :-(. If this adds the bells and whistles that the Multitech is missing AND stops it popping open in impacts, then I'm all over it. The Multitech Sharp scores are plenty good enough for a competent full-face street helmet, if you ignore the whole popping open issue!
I've crashed a few times in Multitecs. The one particularly nasty one I highsided my bike, Superman'ed it off, faceplanted, and literally watched the asphalt slide by the viewport in my first Multitec. The Multitec never popped open.

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Old 11-26-2011, 03:29 PM   #49
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The question was raised about safely attaching a helmet to a bike's helmet lock with a "ratchet latch" as opposed to a D-ring type. Below is what I use, after seeing something similar, somewhere. I used stainless steel to make this one and then coated it with multiple coats of "Plasti-Dip" spray from NAPA to keep it from causing scratches and paint dings. I leave it on the bike helmet latch on my bike(s) so it's always there when I need it.

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Can buy em for $14 HERE also
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Old 11-26-2011, 03:51 PM   #50
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I've crashed a few times in Multitecs. The one particularly nasty one I highsided my bike, Superman'ed it off, faceplanted, and literally watched the asphalt slide by the viewport in my first Multitec. The Multitec never popped open.

http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/testsratings/shoei-multitech

Yeah, it only popped open in 17% of tests, but that's 17% too many in my view. Some of the cheap rubbish flip lids pop open with terrifying regularity, and they are pretty poor protection compared with an ordinary full-face, even when they don't. I'll be much happier if the neotec stops popping open at all - that crash where you were sliding along on your face would have been a lot less fun than I imagine it was anyway if you'd rolled the dice and it had come open on impact...
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Old 11-26-2011, 04:47 PM   #51
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VERY NICE Homemade!! Gonna make my own, too
Can buy em for $14 HERE also
Mine doesn't have any logo printed/etched into it, but I'd do more if a few people wanted them. I would make them just a little longer (add about 1/2" probably) than my first though. Anyone that might be interested can PM me. They'd certainly be less than the $14 price, or even their 2-fer $25-ish special.

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Old 11-26-2011, 05:34 PM   #52
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http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/testsratings/shoei-multitech

Yeah, it only popped open in 17% of tests, but that's 17% too many in my view. Some of the cheap rubbish flip lids pop open with terrifying regularity, and they are pretty poor protection compared with an ordinary full-face, even when they don't. I'll be much happier if the neotec stops popping open at all - that crash where you were sliding along on your face would have been a lot less fun than I imagine it was anyway if you'd rolled the dice and it had come open on impact...
I realize that as an American, I don't speak the Queen's English. However, what they reported was "83% - Percentage of impacts where the faceguard remained fully locked." Not fully locked does not mean it popped open. If it unlatched on one side but remained closed, it would qualify as one of the 17% you are reporting.

Or you could say that it protects your face 83% more often than a 3/4 or 1/2 helmet.

Is it as safe as a full face. Nope. Never has been. Never will be. If you lose sleep over that, then don't buy one.
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Old 11-27-2011, 01:10 AM   #53
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The sun visor will be a great improvement over the multitech.

Annoyingly enough my new company multitech just arrived.
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Old 11-27-2011, 06:06 AM   #54
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The sun visor will be a great improvement over the multitech.

Annoyingly enough my new company multitech just arrived.
You guys use the multitech at work?
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Old 11-27-2011, 08:31 AM   #55
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This is great news. I love my Shoei RF1000 and have been wanting a modular. The lack of internal visor has put off my purchase. I tried a Nolan but my head didn't like it. I really have a Shoei head.

I'm disappointed to hear that Shoei is marketing this "upstream" from the Multitech instead of just replacing it at a similar price point. If I wanted to spend $700 on a helmet I would have bought a Schuberth already.
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Old 11-27-2011, 02:05 PM   #56
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Internal sunvisor, yuck. I hope shoei doesnt put them in all of their helmets or I might have to change brands.
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Old 11-27-2011, 05:38 PM   #57
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It might be premature to simply convert the British Pounds price into USD and assume that's the price we'll see in the US. http://www.justhelmets.co.uk is quoting £469.99 for preorders for the Neotec, but they also sell the Multitec £419.99.

In the UK it appears that MSRP for the Neotec will be about a 12% premium over the Multitec.

In the US MSRP on a base color Multitec is $482.99. So hopefully that means the Neotec will be 12% over that - about $540.
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Old 12-04-2011, 01:00 PM   #58
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I realize that as an American, I don't speak the Queen's English. However, what they reported was "83% - Percentage of impacts where the faceguard remained fully locked." Not fully locked does not mean it popped open. If it unlatched on one side but remained closed, it would qualify as one of the 17% you are reporting.

Or you could say that it protects your face 83% more often than a 3/4 or 1/2 helmet.

Is it as safe as a full face. Nope. Never has been. Never will be. If you lose sleep over that, then don't buy one.
I'll give you that a partial opening doesn't necessarily mean getting your chin ground off on the asphalt, although if one catch pops open, the second is more likely than the first to do likewise, so it's a definite possibility. However, I don't accept that a flip-front helmet should be less protective than a full-face. I expect to pay a penalty, sure, but I expect it to be in cost, and in the weight of the hinge and locking mechanism rather than the ultimate protective qualities of the helmet. If I was happy that the front of my flip might come open when I crashed in any significant percentage of crashes then I'd just wear a piss-pot/jet helmet in the first place.

Here... http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/testsratings/bmw-system-6 ...is a helmet as safe in an impact as a decent full-face as far as I can tell. It weighs a tonne, which has its own safety implications, and costs a fortune (and doesn't fit my head anyway) but it stays closed 97% of the time and offers 4* protection.

PS: How about one of these?

http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/testsratings/marushin-m401

(as a plant pot not as a helmet)
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Old 12-05-2011, 05:51 AM   #59
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I like Shoei gear.. but still waiting for the Nolan N104.. hopefully it will continue with their excellent record. http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/testsratings/nolan-n103
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Old 12-05-2011, 03:08 PM   #60
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It is too bad the new Neotec is going to be so expensive. I have a RF1000 and Multitech and also an Arai Signet so I don't skimp on helmets but dang how much do you have to spend to be comfy and safe. I have never really bonded with my Multitech but was thinking the Neotech looks more streamlined and lighter but $$$$$ and helmets are something I can not buy used lol.
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